Best binding/boots?

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zra

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This is my first year really going all in on gear. I preordered vishnu keys in may, but now im wondering which bindings and boots I should get before the season starts. Im not very good in the park yet, I can do a few grabs, a few rails and I can do a 360. Any suggestions? I'm 6'5 160ish and i dont remeber how big the skiis were and i cant check cause they take down the website after the drop. Thanks.

**This thread was edited on Aug 21st 2023 at 11:21:00am
 
Look Pivot bindings ski really well. Tyrolia Attacks are a good cheaper option. For boots, just try some on and see what has the best balance of comfort and being the smallest size you can fit your foot into. I've had good luck with Tecnica but again, it totally depends on the shape of your feet. What's most important is they aren't too big.

At your height, you'll want your skis to be at least 180 cm.

**This post was edited on Aug 21st 2023 at 11:41:16am
 
Obligatory Go See a Bootfitter. Seriously, finding a boot that works for your foot shape (not just size), height, leg strength, ability, type of skiing, ankle mobility, budget, and a million other other factors that im forgetting is something only a reputable, in person bootfitter can do. You may have better luck asking here what are some good bootfitters in your area. Where are you located?

If you dont have a shop anywhere close and you must buy boots online- there is no such thing as a specific "park boot". Whatever downhill boot fits your foot the best will allow you to rip powder, park, all mountain, etc. Make sure when buying on your own, you read this thread on how to buy boots. There is also a wealth of knowledge from legit bootfitters in that thread. Another option if youre far away from a shop is to schedule a bootfitting appointment next time youre in a major city/out west at all. You have plenty of time

As far as bindings go, its pretty hard to go wrong as long as you get a modern downhill binding within your din range. For your height/weight/ability, i would put some Tyrolia Attack 13s with a 95mm Brake Width on. Especially if you see yourself getting new boots at all in the future, Attacks are nice because they adjust to different boot sizes WAY more than Pivots do. Even the non-demo attacks, which is what i would recommend. So if your foot grows in the next 2 years, you may have to redrill if you get pivots.
 
14547956:hamsauce said:
Obligatory Go See a Bootfitter. Seriously, finding a boot that works for your foot shape (not just size), height, leg strength, ability, type of skiing, ankle mobility, budget, and a million other other factors that im forgetting is something only a reputable, in person bootfitter can do. You may have better luck asking here what are some good bootfitters in your area. Where are you located?

If you dont have a shop anywhere close and you must buy boots online- there is no such thing as a specific "park boot". Whatever downhill boot fits your foot the best will allow you to rip powder, park, all mountain, etc. Make sure when buying on your own, you read this thread on how to buy boots. There is also a wealth of knowledge from legit bootfitters in that thread. Another option if youre far away from a shop is to schedule a bootfitting appointment next time youre in a major city/out west at all. You have plenty of time

As far as bindings go, its pretty hard to go wrong as long as you get a modern downhill binding within your din range. For your height/weight/ability, i would put some Tyrolia Attack 13s with a 95mm Brake Width on. Especially if you see yourself getting new boots at all in the future, Attacks are nice because they adjust to different boot sizes WAY more than Pivots do. Even the non-demo attacks, which is what i would recommend. So if your foot grows in the next 2 years, you may have to redrill if you get pivots.
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thank you this is very useful. I dont know if theres any bootfitters near me. Im sure there are in aspen but i live like 45 minutes away. As for my feet growing im pretty sure they are done. Is there advatage to the pivots over attacks, becuase if there isnt ill get the attacks they are way cheaper.
 
Wish someone had told me this when I started buying gear:

Familiarize yourself with overlap vs. cabrio boot construction (if you haven't already) before visiting a boot fitter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bJgQCTz9uM

I'm a huge proponent of cabrio / 3-piece boots being the superior construction for freeride, park & pipe, moguls etc. I wasted my time for years when I was young with overlap boots giving me killer shin-bang. 10+ years ago I got cabrio boots and never looked back.
 
14547958:zra said:
thank you this is very useful. I dont know if theres any bootfitters near me. Im sure there are in aspen but i live like 45 minutes away. As for my feet growing im pretty sure they are done. Is there advatage to the pivots over attacks, becuase if there isnt ill get the attacks they are way cheaper.
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The Pivots have a really nice, natural skiing feel and lower stand height. Kinda hard to describe what makes them so good but tbh for your use you likely won't notice much difference. Pivots are also more difficult to adjust and to work on if something breaks. As the guy said above, Attack 13s are likely your best option.
 
14547958:zra said:
thank you this is very useful. I dont know if theres any bootfitters near me. Im sure there are in aspen but i live like 45 minutes away. As for my feet growing im pretty sure they are done. Is there advatage to the pivots over attacks, becuase if there isnt ill get the attacks they are way cheaper.
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Benefits of pivots over attacks:

1. The look sick and come in way cooler colors

2. They have more heel elasticity. Meaning you can run them at a lower din with less chance of prereleasing

3. They have a tight hole pattern when mounting (no screws behind your heel)

4. Bombproof if you get the metal pivot 15s (but also a bit heavier than the plastic 14s)

Benefits of Attacks over Pivots:

1. More boot size adjustment

2. slightly lighter and lower to the ground (splitting hairs here)

3. way cheaper

A quick google search told me that Boot tech inc in Aspen is recommended by NS. Im sure your local shop assuming its a ski shop and not an REI or department store would be a great place to start.
 
14547962:skiP.E.I. said:
The Pivots have a really nice, natural skiing feel and lower stand height. Kinda hard to describe what makes them so good but tbh for your use you likely won't notice much difference. Pivots are also more difficult to adjust and to work on if something breaks. As the guy said above, Attack 13s are likely your best option.
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The stack height for the attacks is actually a hair lower. 17mm vs 19mm in the heel, and 15mm vs 18mm in the toe.https://blisterreview.com/gear-reviews/blister-alpine-ski-binding-guide

Like i said, a literal hair lower.

Also totally agree on the natural skiing and the good feeling with pivots.
 
Congrats on the new skis! I love my Keys.

-Get whatever boots your feet are most comfortable in. Do not sacrifice your comfort for style when it comes to boots. Ur also gonna need a flex of atleast 100.

-Pivots are the best on the market IMO. They’re more evolved in a couple different ways, like having a smaller footprint on the skis so u can access more flex thru out the ski. Attacks have better ease of access tho, quickly click in and click out. Having said that, They’re both great bindings and I trust them equally.

Also be sure to detune tf outta ur keys.
 
Would recommend pivot or attacks for your keys and for the boots preferably go see a boot fitter even if it’s far. Last thing you want is too loose toe nails and stuff cause your boots are too big or experience a lot of pain cause they too small ( trust loosing toenails is painful and I won’t be doing the same mistake again)
 
14548069:KilaTsunami said:
Congrats on the new skis! I love my Keys.

-Get whatever boots your feet are most comfortable in. Do not sacrifice your comfort for style when it comes to boots. Ur also gonna need a flex of atleast 100.

-Pivots are the best on the market IMO. They’re more evolved in a couple different ways, like having a smaller footprint on the skis so u can access more flex thru out the ski. Attacks have better ease of access tho, quickly click in and click out. Having said that, They’re both great bindings and I trust them equally.

Also be sure to detune tf outta ur keys.
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Thanks for the advice. I keep hearing attack bindings but both head and Tyrolia make attack bindings. Which would you recommend?
 
14548278:zra said:
Thanks for the advice. I keep hearing attack bindings but both head and Tyrolia make attack bindings. Which would you recommend?
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Tyrolia makes all attacks, they are just rebranded under Head. I believe Elan, Fischer, and 4frnt also sell branded attacks that Tyrolia makes. Youl be good with either. From Tyrolia's website:

For many years, well-known brands like HEAD, FISCHER and ELAN have trusted market leader TYROLIA for its expertise. Small independent ski manufacturers, e.g., Kästle, Sporten, Liberty, Kessler, Blossom and Original+, also choose TYROLIA bindings as the perfect partners for their skis.

Scroll down to the "our partners" section: https://www.tyrolia.com/en_US/company.html
 
Head and Tyrolia are owned by same parent company so think of them as interchangeable. Many companies license out the Attack bindings so you’ll see other company names but same model and product for the attacks

14548278:zra said:
Thanks for the advice. I keep hearing attack bindings but both head and Tyrolia make attack bindings. Which would you recommend?
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Don't sleep on Marker Royal fam. Griffons and the gym-attending big brother Jesters are both great options and work well for your weight and skiing style. Griffons are cheaper than Jesters, Jesters have a higher DIN and beefier construction than Griffons. The best part is the brakes are the same between all Marker Royal Family bindings, so if you blow a brake its a lot (A LOT) cheaper than shelling out the ~$100 for new Pivot brakes.

As said, go to a shop and talk to a knucklehead that can recommend boots to try on. Don't be fooled by colors or style, the boot is the most important part of your kit. If it's not comfortable, skiing is not going to be fun. Try some on, get fitted, get paid.
 
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