Bern Brimmed helmets

I have one. I love it too but it's a little big. Sorry to thread jack but does anyone think I should get a new one? But I love it and when you take out the pads, it's really light
 
i have this and love it
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Yes, skiers have been around for centuries and helmets only a decade.

However, since helmets have become the majority on the hill head injuries have increased.

 
i've got the same one.

good fit, super comfy with the included liner or if you don't like it they easily accommodate any beanie, plus they're relatively cheap.

why wouldn't skiers use them? it's just a helmet ffs, i see skiers and boarders rocking brimmed helmets all over the place.
 
Are you really implying that helmets are the reason there are more injuries? Was park nearly as popular before skiing had helmets?
 
I guess I don't really see the purpose of a brim. I mean there are goggles and sunglasses for sun protection so whats the need for a brim, style?
 
A lot of people do a lot of other stranger things for style, why not brimmed helmets? I don't have a bern, but my helmet has a brim. I like it.
 
some people can pull off the look better then others, i think they look stupid on me, but iv'e seen a few skiers who can pull it off pretty good. Definatly more popular with boarders tho.
 
Yep, this is true it's called risk homeostasis. I do understand the concept behind risk homeostasis, however I still wear a helmet because ... I like my head???
 
Brims don't bother me its the fact that bern are selling "helmets" which don't meet standards for action sports protection. Personally I would ever trust my head in one of their hardhat range. Might sound like a melodramatic thing but I value my life and mobility.
 
I've worn both the Baker and now the Watts (both with the brim) and love them. I know for a fact that the brim has saved me from breaking my nose more than once. Despite being very small, I've gone face first into a stairset after getting hung up on a rail, and the brim hit first, instead of my goggles/nose.

As far as the EPS vs. Hard Hat, I actually specifically got the Hard Hat. It's totally a matter of personal choice, but the Hard Hats are better for the small, lower impacts that are typical for most park riders. But, it's potentially a trade off for "the big one" when it comes to crashes.

Overall, I swear by Bern, and I have zero reservations recommending them to anyone.
 
the problem with "multiple" impact helmets is that you do not know when your helmet is truly compromised. you will think, "oh great, I have this multi impact resistant helmet therefore I am safer" but the reality is that you could expire the helmet on the first impact you take and think it is safe for the next hit when it isn't. it's really dangerous.

the best strategy is this: if you take a fall where you are glad you had your helmet on, it is time to get a new one. also, you should inspect your helmet every day for cracks and dents, which can also happen by tossing your helmet into the car or dropping it on the floor. don't take chances with your safety equipment, it's just not worth it.
 
but taking risks is fun, like hitting rails and skiing trees, things people have been doing since before helmets were popular. and everyone knows that anytime youre skiing, no matter how good you think you are, you can always make a mistake when youre doing something routine and easy. everyone has lost their balance on a flat rail, everyone hs caught an edge while skiing trees, and everyone has gone down when they least expect it. you should always wear a helmet and you should always assess your risks when stepping it up, not just wildly huck yourself around because you feel protected.
 
^That right there, is a great straightforward post. +K

BTW, onenerdykid, have you heard about the new cardboard helmets being designed in Europe? They're for biking right now, but have been shown to be up to 3x stronger than traditional EPS designs. That might sound like a joke, but I'm quite serious.

He's right folks, he's just right. My opinion has always been try to get the best gear in the performance range you need. But with safety equipment, never compromise and never take a risk. Your brain and the rest of your life will thank you.
 
pretty cool idea.... but i do question how durable it will be against sweat and water. sweat and water and UV damage are some of the main factors that breakdown the safety of EPS foam, and cardboard doesn't strike me as more durable/resilient. And like EPS, it would be a single impact design because once you crumple the cardboard it will lose its ability to absorb the next impact to the same degree.

it would for sure be cheaper to manufacture than EPS, as EPS molds are quite expensive. it will be cool to see this develop and evolve.
 
Good points. I would imagine so long as they can engineer a sealed compartment it won't be that bad in regards to snow and sweat. On some of the interior shots it looks like one's head rests directly against the cardboard lattice/grid structure. Cyclists certainly sweat so I wonder what's going on there. Assumably, still an R&D issue? Preventing UV damage can't be insurmountable, I would think.

The thing I like about the idea is that with EPS it's really hard to tell if you're compromised because of the outer shell, mesh, pads, etc. I feel like it would be pretty clear when a cardboard helmet is compromised. I think of that as a solid advantage.

The single impact design is a little worrisome, I agree. But with potentially a much cheaper production process I imagine it being quite cheap to get a replacement.

But, all told--all agreed. Sweet concept with great potential.

FYI: original article I saw is here: http://www.core77.com/blog/materials/ani_surabhis_biomimetic_kranium_corrugated_bicycle_helmet_is_stronger_lighter_than_traditional_eps_23981.asp
 
I've had a few faceplants (intentional of course :P) and I have never pictured the result being all that pleasant with a brimmed helmet.
 
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