Benazir Bhutto assassinated after rally.... shit = about to hit the fan

Lol, your first try was acceptable. According to wiki: Al-Qaeda (also al-Qaida or al-Qa'ida or al-Qa'idah) are the common spellings.
 
if mitt romney wins the election i'm personally going to kill myself

massachusetts became a total shit hole while he was governor, sure taxes went down, but you should see the trash all over the highways, the roads are terrible, school system (which used to be ranked highest in the country) is shot, seriously, i'll fucking move to canada and watch the US implode under his command and then i'll look at all you ass holes that voted for him and laugh
 
it really could, this could be the fuel to the war that we do NOT need at ALL. i feel bad for our next president
 
Same people different name...We trained them, set them loose on the Soviets, Soviet Union collapses, then they turn on us and come up with a catchy brandname.

Ironic, yes. Funny... no not really.
 
Like I said we have to power to either fix it or fuck things up. We just don't have a great record of actually fixing things. But that doesn't mean we don't have the power to do so.
 
Seriously mang, you seem to be in a really bad mood lately.

Ron Paul is not an isolationist, at all. He has refuted that point so many times in interviews. He is for Non-Intervention, which is completely different from isolationism.

Honestly, this is NOT going to affect my life, at all. Yes, it is horrible that this lady was killed. Pakistan is a country very very far away from me in Montana.

Please explain how this is going to affect MY LIFE? Just because you say it will, doesnt mean shit. Im not going to let the death of some lady I have never even met, affect my life in any way possible. It is not my or the US's problem, it is Pakistans problem. When JFK was assasinated, do you think some random guy in Pakistan was bothered by it? No. He was probably just like "Wow, that country has some problems, they better get their shit together" and left it at that and moved on with his life. People are assasinated all the time throughout the world. Enough with the sensationalist attitude. Im going to just go skiing and rip some powder. Pakistan is a country and they are perfectly capable of fixing their own country, they do NOT need the US to babysit them.
 
Holy shit...

So an impending civil war pitting Musharraf, who was counting on Bhutto to help stabilize the country by giving legitimacy to the elections, who has been supported by the USA since his coup in 1999, versus radical islamists who are gaining support, in a breeding ground for Al Qaeda, in a chaotic, war weary region, with the added bonus of nuclear capabilities, is of NO conscern to your Montana-ass?

Isn't THAT the greatest mentality in the whole world. You rich white kid from no-one-gives-a-shit USA, has bigger problems than the impending collapse of Pakistan, one of our (sorta) allies, a nuclear power, into a civil war, with Islamic fundamentalists, which could see the beginning of the end of that part of the world, which, given outside influences, such as Iran, could precipitate... God, do I even have to explain this?

Go get sodomized by Ron Paul's "no intervention" dick. The USA is too big, has too many ties tot he region, to not have a stake in what is going on Pakistan. 1940? 2007 is calling, it says things have changed.
 
Pakistan looks to be on the brink of a civil war, where the military dictatorship will probably come down and crush the Pakistani-bred move for democracy. While spreading democracy and enhancing vicious dictators is completely a US trademark, a international effort to quell the violence and have Musharraf hold fair elections would benefit the world. This isnt babysitting, its intervention that any upstanding modern country would see the benefit in.

Besides being humanistic and realizing that deaths of millions of Pakistanis in a civil war could be a unfortunate thing, let me also remind you that India and Pakistan have been just itching for a chance to try out their new nuclear arsenal. Yes, some lady in a far away country died - and guess what, a even less

important figure being assassinated started WW1. What happens in other

countries does affect your life you ignorant ass.
 
this kids right. you guys are all raving that this is going to have a huge effect blah blah blah. but it really isnt.
 
Of course its a big deal, but want do you want America to do? Go in, declare marshal law and prop up ANOTHER puppet government?

This is the kind of shit that happens when you go around imposing 'our' will on foreign populations by manipulating their governments in whatever way seems to benefit our leaders most at the time, while claiming to spread 'freedom and democracy'.
 
Uhhhh no one expects America to do anything...

And this thread... is pretty much the epitome of why people on ns shouldn't attempt to have worthwhile discussions... because jesus, some of these responses are making my eyes bleed.

Way to be completely apathetic to the world you live in guys. Tension in the middle east is escalating every fucking day and you couldn't give even the slightest indication that maybe you care about anything besides yourselves in this world. Awesome! That attitude will take you really far in life.
 
No, what I would advise would be for the US to lead the rally of international vocation for Musharraf to hold fair elections and allow democracy to peacefully arise. Putting troops in there would shit all over everything, and even Bush can't be that crazy. After a Pakistan elects and stabilizes their own government, which they in fact WANT to do, they can then accept or reject our offer to help fight terrorist factions over there.
 
this is so sad; she was going to do good for the country, and fight for the country's peace, and then she got killed. i cant believe what this world, especially pakistan and other middle eastern countries are coming to. its so horrible. i hope she RIP.

 
Amazing contributation of a post, really. Why did you bother quoting me in the first place, if to call me out on some issue in another thread then put it in that thread. Way to sound like an asshole.
 
she was corrupt anyways. in fact, the top 10 in asia.

embezzled something like 1 billion dollars.

these people don't know democracy. stop trying to teach them. they are perfectly happy living in tents, so leave them be.

 
wow...fuck. and pakistan seemed relatively stable (compared to other parts of the middle east.)

what happens in these next weeks is going to be huge.
 
pakistan hasn't been stable for decades. There's been intense fighting with India over boarder disputes in Kashmir, not to mention a huge escalation in violence at the Afghan boarder. There's been a long history of unrest in the country, it just didn't get a whole lot of attention until the late 90's when they got nuclear weapons.
 
I feel I have to apologize about this bit, that's a bit overboard. Sorry about that.

Your sheer stupidity should be punishment enough.
 
i wasn't calling you out man. Well i guess it was, but I would've said that for anybody. It's stating the obvious. It's not like having someone of her importance being assassinated isn't going to affect things. Plus, I posted that before I say your other responses in the other thread. Just beause I disagreed w/ you on something doesn't mean I don't like you.
 
Militants, Bhutto Aides Allege Cover-Up





Pakistani women comfort Naheed Khan, second from right, as she visits the gr...



By RAVI NESSMAN, AP

2 hours ago

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ISLAMABAD, Pakistan —

An Islamic militant group said Saturday it had no link to Benazir

Bhutto's killing and the opposition leader's aides accused the

government of a cover-up, disputing the official account of her death.

The

government stood firmly by its account of Thursday's assassination and

insisted it needed no foreign help in any investigation.

"This

is not an ordinary criminal matter in which we require assistance of

the international community. I think we are capable of handling it,"

said Interior Ministry spokesman Javed Iqbal Cheema.

Bhutto's

aides said they doubted militant commander Baitullah Mehsud was behind

the attack on the opposition leader and said the government's claim

that she died when she hit her head on the sunroof of her vehicle was

"dangerous nonsense."

Cheema said the government's account was based on "nothing but the facts"

Democratic

presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton called for an

independent, international investigation into Bhutto's death ���

perhaps by the United Nations ��� saying Friday there was "no reason to

trust the Pakistani government."

Attackers opened fire at a

motorcade of Bhutto's supporters as they returned to Karachi after her

funeral, killing one man and wounding two, said Waqar Mehdi, a

spokesman for Bhutto's party. The government said mass rioting has

killed 38 people and caused tens of millions of dollars in damage.

In

Rawalpindi, thousands of Bhutto supporters spilled onto the streets

after a prayer ceremony for her, throwing stones and clashing with

police who fired tear gas to try and subdue the crowd.

President

Pervez Musharraf told his top security officials that those looting and

plundering "must be dealt with firmly and all measures be taken to

ensure (the) safety and security of the people," the Associated Press

of Pakistan reported.

Pakistan's election commission called an

emergency meeting for Monday to discuss the violence's impact on Jan. 8

parliamentary elections.

Nine election offices in Bhutto's home

province of Sindh in the south were burned to the ground, along with

voter rolls and ballot boxes, the commission said in a statement. The

violence also hampered the printing of ballot papers, training of poll

workers and other pre-election logistics, the statement said.

The

U.S. government, which sees nuclear-armed Pakistan as a crucial ally in

the war on terror, has pushed Musharraf to keep the election on track

to promote stability, moderation and democracy in Pakistan, American

officials said.

Prime Minister Mohammedmian Soomro said Friday

the government had no immediate plans to postpone the election, despite

the violence and the decision by Nawaz Sharif, another opposition

leader, to boycott the poll.

Bhutto's Pakistan Peoples Party

also called a meeting Sunday to decide whether to participate in the

vote. Her widower, Asif Ali Zardari, told the British Broadcasting

Corp. that their son would read a message left by Bhutto and addressed

to the party in event of her death.

Roads across Bhutto's

southern Sindh province were littered with burning vehicles, smoking

reminders of the continuing chaos since her assassination Thursday.

Factories, stores and restaurants were set ablaze in Pakistan's biggest

city, Karachi, where 17 people have been killed and dozens injured,

officials said.

Army, police and paramilitary troops patrolled

the nearly deserted streets of Bhutto's home city of Larkana, where

rioting left shops at a jewelry market smoldering.

The

government blamed Bhutto's killing on al-Qaida and Taliban militants

operating with increasing impunity in the lawless tribal areas along

the border with Afghanistan. It released a transcript Friday of a

purported conversation between Mehsud and another militant, apparently

discussing the assassination.

"It was a spectacular job. They were very brave boys who killed her," Mehsud said, according to the transcript.

But

a spokesman for Mehsud, Maulana Mohammed Umer, denied the militant was

involved in the attack and dismissed the allegations as "government

propaganda."

"The fact is that we are only against America, and

we don't consider political leaders of Pakistan our enemy," he said in

a telephone call he made to The Associated Press from the tribal region

of South Waziristan, adding that he was speaking on instructions from

Mehsud.

Cheema said the government had evidence to back its claim.

"I don't think anybody has the capability to carry out such suicide attacks except for those people," he said.

Bhutto's

Pakistan Peoples Party accused the government of trying to frame

Mehsud, saying the militant ��� through emissaries ��� had previously

told Bhutto he was not involved in the Karachi bombing.

"The

story that al-Qaida or Baitullah Mehsud did it appears to us to be a

planted story, an incorrect story, because they want to divert the

attention," said Farhatullah Babar, a spokesman for Bhutto's party.

After

the Karachi attack, Bhutto accused elements in the ruling pro-Musharraf

party of plotting to kill her. The government denied the claims. Babar

said Bhutto's allegations were never investigated.

Bhutto was

killed Thursday evening when a suicide attacker shot at her and then

blew himself up as she left a rally in the garrison city of Rawalpindi

near Islamabad. The attack killed about 20 others as well. Authorities

initially said she died from bullet wounds, and a surgeon who treated

her said the impact from shrapnel on her skull killed her.

But

Cheema said she was killed when she tried to duck back into the armored

vehicle during the attack, and the shock waves from the blast smashed

her head into a lever attached to the sunroof, fracturing her skull, he

said.

"We gave you absolute facts, nothing but the facts," he

said. "It was corroborated by the doctors' report. It was corroborated

by the evidence collected."

Bhutto's spokeswoman Sherry Rehman, who was in the vehicle with her boss, disputed the government's version.



"To hear that Ms. Bhutto fell from an impact from a bump on a sunroof

is absolutely rubbish. It is dangerous nonsense, because it implies

there was no assassination attempt," she told the BBC.

"There

was a clear bullet wound at the back of the neck. It went in one

direction and came out another," she said. "My entire car is coated

with her blood, my clothes, everybody ��� so she did not concuss her

head against the sun roof."

The government said it was forming

two inquiries into Bhutto's death, one to be carried out by a high

court judge and another by security forces.

____

Associated

Press writers Zarar Khan in Larkana, Sadaqat Jan in Islamabad, Ishtiaq

Mahsud in Dera Ismail Khan and Afzal Nadeem in Karachi contributed to

this report.
 
you really think he lied????? u honestly believe that iraq wasn't developing nuclear weapons? wake up and smell the roses man
 
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