Be an asshole: its better in the long run

jarossamdb7

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Thats the lession I learned lastnight.

I had a party at my house because my mom is gone. So this chick had a shot, but just before she had it she said she needed to leave in 20 min. She had only had one shot before that. When it was time to leave, I let her leave; she seemed fine to drive.

Anyway, she got an MIP. Which means that she indeed WAS fine to drive, however, she is underage and had alchahol in her system. (the way I see it, im in the clear for letting her go). Anyhow, heres the part where I learn the lession where if your an asshole, you come out on top:

She called me and had me talk to her parents. They insisted to her to talk to me. They ended up comming over to my house. They inisted I call up my dad so they could talk to him. They tried to talk to the parents of everyone who was here. That didnt happen. The thing is (and I told them this..) was that I could have told them to leave at any moment. Im 19, and everyone except for one kid at the party was over 18, so legally speeking, our parents dont need to know. In other words, I know I didnt need to let them talk to my dad, but I did anyway, because im not an asshole. I also know that I didnt need to let them on my moms property, or in her house, but I did anyway. I like to be a reasonable human being, and would like to think that if I am, other human beings will be reasonable with me, but I suppose not. Her parents pointed out that if I told them they couldnt be on my property, they could call the cops. Thats true, however, I pointed out that if they did that, the cops would come, knock on the front door, ask to come in, I would say no, then they would leave. We hid all the alchahol from the door, so they dont have any reason to come in, and they need a warrent.

so: be an asshole, you'll come out on top!
 
well, most of the kids leaft once they heard the parents were comming, wich is stupid, because they couldnt do shit since we were all 18. But I was still here.
 
you have to learn the hard way you know, but its true that you should have been an asshole on this one
 
My little brother is an asshole... he doesn't have many friends. He's not one like in your sweet story, but one that throws snowballs at mentally challenged kids. He really did do that once.
 
well more over, im learning that there is a time to be an asshole. Im pretty bad at being an asshole. guess i need to work on that.
 
there are 2 types of assholes:

1.people that need to keep themselves safe

2. people that are jsut dicks

there is a third type but i dont think i need to get into that
 
about a warrant, most police can get a warrant in a matter of minutes, and the pigs love to bust an underage party
 
ha dont let the cops try and sweet talk ya, they will fucking tell you ANYTHING to get in your house. if they do not see a felony at hand, they arn't allowd to come in, unless you say they can. and i know a judge isn't going to want to get up at night to give them a warrent.
 
yeah...thats not being an asshole, thats being smart.

i would have not even talked to the girls parents, and would have yelled at the girl when she called me for even hading over my #.
 
#1 If a person is under 21, they are never "alright to drive". If you are underage and get pulled over with any BAC you're fucked. It's not worth it. Suspended license, court fees, normally some other punishment, and your car insurance goes through the fucking roof. You're first mistake was having a party and letting people leave after they were drinking. Thats

#2 Her parents are the sterotypical american parents that treat their daughter like a little innocent princess. "It's not my daughter's fault, it's that asshole kid's for having the party. She wouldn't have had to drive home like that if he didn't have the party." You're daughter is a perfectly intelligent young lady, completely capable of making her own decisions. You're daughter was a dumbass, and took the risk of driving home with alcohol in her body. The kid with the party didn't tie her in a chair and dump liquor down her throat. (althought you could've not let her leave as i mentioned before and saved yourself a lot of grief).

#3 If her parents really wanted to call the police, the first thing the police would do, would be to come to the house. I'd love to see them call up the magistrate at 2 AM for a warrent to bust a party with less than 20 kids. If you aren't causing a noise disturbance, and if nothing major happened (somebody was hurt, there was a fight, someone's life was in danger etc.) they won't do jack shit. Daddy's little princess could've done shots in her car before she left for all they care.

But this isn't about being an asshole. It's about knowing your rights, and how to handle a situation like this. Would you have been an asshole for making that bitch's partents call the police? No. Did you do a good thing by letting the parents play phone tag at the crack of dawn. Probably. Best to keep the authorities out of things. They'll have less mercy than your parents will. But if you approached things the other way, and made them call the police, I think you would've had a similar outcome. It's kind of a lose / lose situation at that point.

Never mess with a girl's zealous father. He'll make it his number 1 priority to fuck you.

 
from my understanding, she got an MIP. which means, if she had the same amount of alchahol in her system, and happened to come across the popos while taking a stroll, the same thing would have happened.
 
I'm not familiar with an MIP. What does it stand for, and what is it exactly?

I don't know what the law is like where you are, but her in PA if a person under 21 is pulled over and has a blood alcohol content of .01 or greater, he/she get's an underage DUI. So basically one drink, and if you drive, you're fucked, even thought the legal limit for a person over 21 is .08. If there is no law differentiating underage drinking and driving, and simple underage drinking that is fucked up. If there is one thing that pisses me off, it is drinking and driving. There is nothing right about it, and governments need to start cracking down on it harder. If a minor drives under the influence it should definitely be a lot harsher than just an underage drinking offense.

But tell me this. What are the chances of her being pulled over compared to those of her getting stopped walking down the street. I mean they can pull you over for anything, burnt out tail light, speeding, ...no license plate, reckless driving etc. But what is the probability of her being stopped by the police walking down the street? Especially considering "she was alright to drive". Unless your town has a curfew, even then if she is over 18 she would be fine. If they pulled up stopped her and asked for her ID, as long as she wasn't tripping over herself, slurring her speech, or reeking of booze, they would just let her go. When you have a party, you are basically putting yourself responsible for people. You must take the appropriate actions to limit your risk. If I have a party, I always take keys.

 
i like it how you said you like being a responsible person and yet you have parties involving alchohol.
 
I fail to see how having a controlled party, where no one drives drunk, and we dont piss any of the neighbors off is not responsible.
 
yea it is much easier to get pulled over then stopped walking do the street.

anyhow, an MIP is a "Minor In Posession". if your a minor and you have been drinking, or are like holding a bottle, then you get an MIP. if you are legally too intoxicated to drive, you get a DUI. MIP is not as bad as a DUI.
 
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