Banning Snowboarders

I propose that anyone who supports banning snowboards from their mountain should themselves be banned from all resorts that allow snowboarding.

Seems like the only fair thing.

If they can't put up with boarders at their hill, then why should boarders have to put up with them?
 
Jesus Christ, this is like talking to toddlers.

Mad River Glen is a Co-op, meaning it isn't any longer owned by one person, but by hundreds of people, who buy shares in the mountain. The share-holders have meetings, and every year vote on issues, one of them being whether or not they should allow snowboarders. Every year, it has been a no. Mad River has better and longer lasting powder than anywhere else in the northeast, because:

A. 90% of the skiiers are advanced, and know how to ski well, because of the mostly expert tarrain covering the mountain, thus don't scrape off the snow.

B. Snowboarders scrape off much more snow than skiiers, there isn't any denying it. MRG doesn't make snow, so the snow the sky gives them is all they get. The co-op wants to preserve it as long as they can.

They're not doing it to be assholes, and they sure as hell aren't in it for the money. They'd have a 30% greater annual income if they allowed snowboarders. They make these decisions to create as good a skiing enviornment as possible, meaning more snow and a mountain not nearly as crowded as most others. Also, if you've skiied MRG, you know that almost every single trail has moguls, which snowboarders like to stay out of anyway. If you don't like it, Sugarbush is 2 miles down the road. I haven't skiied anywhere else that has come close to giving me the kind of experience I get every time I go to Mad River. Not having snowboarders is a huge part of that.
 
There's that word again (prejudice).

There's thousands of good snowboarders who will scrape off a lot less snow than a dude on two fat skis making three times more turns than he needs to down a slope.

But go ahead and keep generalizing, it obviously makes you and your fancy "we're better than them" friends feel better about keeping your hill clean of those pesky kids on their boards.
 
And by the way, I'm a skier who loves moguls, but you don't need to worry about me showing up there, because the attitude you've shown in this thread gives me a pretty good idea of what type of people I could probably expect at your high class joint. (Oops, there I go stereotyping your whole resort as a bunch of stuck up snobs)
 
There's only 3 or 4 resorts left that still don't allow snowboarding... Which is kind of dumb and hard to imagine. Oh well it's their business and not ours.
 
You seriously beleive skiiers scrape off more snow than boarders? If it's an apology you want, fine. I'm sorry for being "prejudiced" against snowboarders. I have a ton of buds that board, and I hit the slopes with them all the time, but the experience is no where remotely close to what I get at MRG.

And give me a break. Fancy? Ask anyone who's been to Mad River, and they'll tell you there's nothing remotely fancy about it. It's just oldschool, straight up skiing. One base, two slow lifts, one that's 50 years old, no snow making...That doesn't sound very fancy to me.
 
FUCKING A PEOPLE

ALTA would be shitty for a snowboarder. their calfes would be way to tired to even drop into most of the stuff!

and the high ballroom traverse going to the shoulder goes up hill right after the main chute above...

can you explain hwo a snowboarder would navagate that? *besides unstrapping and walking

and fuck that bullshit about if you cant dodge them on the traverse you "suck" most of the rippin skiers are going like 90 miles an hour of the traverse... i know you gapers have heard this....

"click" "click" motha fucker get out the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

its NOT easy for even expert skiers goin mach speed of a fucking travers trying not to get killed by compressions and also tryig not to pop 20 feet in the air after a compression to just "get out the way"

basically... shut the fuck up....

*just kidding i love you!!!!!!!!*
 
No, what I seriously believe is that what you are riding is not the issue.

Some boarders scrape off less snow than some skiers, and some skiers scrape off less snow than some boarders.

Beginners of both sports can be a pain for the more experienced of either.

The fact that your arguments could be applied to try and keep snowboards off of any resort in North America is what really bothers me.
 
Of course they could be applied to any mountain. The difference is that Mad River acted upon it, while other mountains have not.
 
So if I get this right....

You are defending Mad Rivers Ban of snowboarding based on reasons that "could be applied to any mountain"

According to that remark... you think that there are good reasons to ban snowboarding from all ski resorts.

That is the big problem that I have with your entire argument. And the reason I used the term prejudice.
 
Whatever man, the only thing I agree about is that your attitude is elitist and discriminatory.

It's just as bad as a snowboarder after watching a group of beginner skiers go through the pipe, who then argues;

"Skiers can't do the Halfpipe, they always land sideways with one foot on the deck and wreck the lip, they shouldn't be allowed in the pipe!"

It's a "we are better than them, and deserve more, and have more rights" mentality.

Get over yourself, learn to share and treat people like equals.
 
I think Alta simply rules and no snowboarders there..... Im not really a fan of boarders just because here at Bogus Basin we have fags that sit at the top of the park talking shit to everyone else when the best thing they can do is shit on the lift. (and steal french fries)..... bastards
 
thats exactly what i was thinking, could not have said it better myself.

Everyone does it, its not like its just beginner skiiers or just beginner snowboarders or just snowbikers.... but snowbladers *shakes fist* god damned snowbladers
 
I've already said that I have plenty of buds that snowboard and I ski with all the time. I'm not trying to be elitist. The places that ban them aren't trying to be elitist. Like I said, they're losing a shitload of money by doing it. They're doing it to make a better enviornment for skiiers, which it does. It doesn't mean they hate boarders, which I don't, but places like MRG are proof that not allowing boarders will create a completely different skiing experience. Really pal, it's only on 4 or 5 mountains, so chill out. If you don't like it, go somewhere else.
 
OK then, answer this for me; Do you think that any resorts should ban skiing and only be open to boarders?

I'm sure that doing so would "greatly improve the snowboarding experience" there.

If you honestly believe that would be reasonable action for any resort to take, then I take back what I said about being elitist. (Of course it still brings up the issue of segregation).
 
I really don't think I would care if a few places closed the mountian to skiiers, but I don't see any reason why they would. There are plenty of other places to ski.
 
Well there you go.

Of course you seem to see lots of reasons to ban snowboarders from your hill.

How is that not elitist or discriminatory?
 
besides the group of friends i have found to ski with now (it took a while) i would much rather ski with a random boarder then a random skier. DUE TO the cockiness factor which you always come upon while riding up the lift with the old guy that thinks hes king shit and due to the dickehead skiers that think there superior. there like fucking naziz
 
Snowboarders, in general, scrape more snow off a hill than skiiers do. Of course, to you, this is a completely discriminatory and "elitist" statement, but I know plenty of people that would completely agree with me.

And like I said, it's not elitist in any way. Mad River banned them so they could maintain the skiing enviornment they are so well known for. They lost 30% of their profits by doing so, but to them, it's worth it. Anyone that has skiied there will tell you, it's a completely different experience, and to many, like myself, a much better one. Also, MRG really isn't a boarders mountian anyway. It's 90% woods and moguls. Snowboarders would want to stay away even if they could.
 
Yes, it certainly is.

Maybe you have never been at a mountain with lots of good snowboarders.

In Whistler for example, you will find way more beginner skier families on the hill than beginner boarders. Those guys certainly do their share of scraping off snow.

Maybe they should ban skiing.

You seem to buy into some crazy idea about how sliding sideways on one 155cm edge is way more destructive than sliding sideways on two 180cm edges.
 
No hard feelings man, you're entitled to your opinion. I'm just voicing mine.

Have fun skiing!
 
oh shit sons! i didnt bother to read all of the argument but meng all i have to say is mad river glen is awesome..... and snowboarders wouldnt wanna go there anyways cause it is too damn inpractical for them.MRG is cool how it is and i would want anyone going around experimenting on how it would turn out if snowbaorders were allowed. . . it would sure get icy as hell though if they were allowed in. keep it how it is. . .keep it old school, Peace.
 
in case no one remembers, and it wasnt so long ago... a lot of the resorts that had "parks" didnt allow skiiers in them at first... think of how absurd that sounds now
 
Yeah, and I'm sure that you could find lots of boarders who would tell you how much better their hill would be if they didn't allow skiers. Or what a better experience they used to have in the park before skiers were allowed in. And how skis are "impractical" on rails so they wouldn't want to do them anyways.

Does that make it right?
 
yeah if people are too pussy to stand someone scraping snow (which doesnt happen much more at all with boarders than with skiers) then i wouldnt want to ski there anyway, it seems like the place rich spoiled bitches would go so i dont give a shit cause im never going there.
 
this answer has proly been posted but theres like 4 pages so...i was at alta a couple years ago and i asked a guy the reason for no boarders and he said a lot of it has to do with the amount of traversing that is needed at some areas...i dont no if it was an acurate answer but it seems logical
 
not entirely true, saying that is insulting out sport if you remember all the gay ones that think they're all that and screw up all the jumps cause they are too pussy to hop, the kind that sit down in the middle of the hill just to be in the way, not like us at all.
 
Actually I tend to think that it's attitudes like yours and some of the others in this thread that are insulting to the sport, and making skiers look like a bunch of fucking SNOBS.

Are you trying to say that no skier has ever gotten in someones way in the park? Or that skiers don't screw up jumps on to rails by hitting them sideways.

PEOPLE ON THE HILL SHOULD BE JUDGED BY THEIR ACTIONS, AND BEHAVIOUR, NOT BY WHAT IS ON THEIR DAMN FEET!!!

I know countless snowboarders that are so much more open minded than all of you self-righteous jerks.
 
Snowboarders are crucial. Some are soo kick ass I love watching them. Then you get all the poser snowboarders. They are fun cuz they talk shit and all that at the staging area. But they never actually go, they just stand and watch and talk shit. And first off, Im not that good in the park, i mean i am learning 900s and working on truck drivers, but compared to good people I suck. But I don't brag about shit I can't do. But that is besides the point. So anyways they stand there and talk shit and you get to go and throw something fairly cool like a tail grab 7, and you just know that they are all like "wow that dude is pro." And they stop talking shit. Its like paintball. If you own an angel, you are pro. Even though you really arent.
 
Oh, ouch, that was a really good one, congratulations!

On the subject of crying, you seem to get pretty upset at everyone who questions your "exclusive" resort's fucked up policies. Maybe your boyfriend can soothe you with a nice hot salty load up your ass.

Have a nice day, fuckface. Hope it's worth rationalizing like a Nazi to enjoy your "best skiing experience ever".
 
I've run into a whole bunch of jackasses on the hill, and without fail, they always, always, always, ski. I think all the poor snowboarders would be better off if they just banned skiing altogether.

Hey, you know, I think it'd be cool if we just went ahead and made a little change at all those mountains that ban snowboarding. Instead of saying "100% snowboard free", they could say something silly like "100% black people free" or "100% asian free" or, hey, "100% texans who ski in jeans and cowboy hats free".

I bet none of you would be cool with the last 3. So why are you cool with the first one?
 
Very well said. Sums it up quite nicely, which is something I've been unable to pull off on this thread.
 
Actually I'd be totally okay with the last one. Not that it's a problem now, but still.
 
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