"Banned" Interview - President Bush

obama is the step in the jimmy carter direction...fuck that

i dont even see why that video was bad. saddam had chemical and biological weapons that he used on his people. He killed thousands and put people in plastic shedders, feet first. right before we went into iraq a bunch of 18 wheelers left iraq going into syria with a bunch of weapons. If he didnt even have nukes now, he would have made them. It's clearly a more safe world now. It would be a lot worse if we hadnt gone in, and it would have certainly been a lot worse for the iraqi people.

oh btw, the there's only two provinces in iraq where they are still having trouble. Everywhere else is actually pretty safe. it's not that far from being over.
 
ok i think you need to use your history and reason to explain to me how the u.s. didnt save the world in WWI and WWII, and you should also name a country thats been more influential. im not going to apologize for being proud of my ancestors' accomplishments or for being part of a country thats actually making a difference in the world.
 
I'm sorry but the phrase "stability in Iraq" gave me one hell of a chuckle. By stability you mean constant car bombings, an increasing insurgency (even after the big surge) and the ever increasing hostility of the locals towards Americans?

I don't know what you're watching but i'd lay off the Fox news.
 
people do not join terrorist groups because they have no hope its just what they believe in they believe they need to take a stand against wat they think is wrong and the way they do that is to sacrifice themselves for their cause

he dissapoints m
 
I'm embarassed that I'm american and that Bush is my pres. Everytime I go to canada to ski I get shit for it. I want to move to canada.

Obama '08
 
right on man

mccains first act as president(if he were to win) is to secure our right to natural recourses(oil) in foreign countries... how is he going to do this?... war. hes just like bush. he will spend billions if not trillions more dollars just to kill more people.

Obama '08
 
no, i'm british. don't get me wrong, i don't think my country is flawless, far from it. its just in america the average person is so sickeningly patriotic, when they don't even know shit about what happens in the wider world.

an interview like that is completely staged- bush will have been sent the questions beforehand and his people will have prepared the answers for him. tell me, what the fuck does that achieve? and tell me also what the fuck has bush ever done to command respect from anyone? i can hardly think of a single individual in the world who deserves it less.
 
have i ever said i am a mccain supporter?

I HOPE I NEVER HAVE!

did i ever prop up mccain in my post? nope sorry...

i dont like either of them....
 
"We can follow a policy that doesn’t change whether violence is up

or violence is down, whether the Iraqi government takes responsibility

or not; or we can decide that it’s time to begin a responsible, gradual withdrawal from Iraq."

obama. ^

..... Standing alongside Hillary (Friday in Unity, NH), Obama said:

"We can follow a policy that doesn’t change whether violence is

up or violence is down, whether the Iraqi government takes

responsibility or not; or we can decide that it’s time to begin a

responsible, gradual withdrawal from Iraq."

..... Just months ago, Obama clamored for an “immediate”

withdrawal, regardless of the situation on the ground; today, his

withdrawal would be “gradual.” Maybe he was channeling Hillary Clinton,

or maybe he finally realizes that very few people—except the MoveOn

crowd—want an immediate withdrawal. His website, I should note, still touts an “immediate” withdrawal.

Despite this move, Obama insists that America’s policy in Iraq

“doesn’t change whether violence is up or violence is down.” This is

verifiably false. ..... What was the new counter-insurgency strategy,

Mr. Senator?

..... True to form, Obama is trying to have it both ways—attempting

to use moderate rhetoric to mask an irresponsible Iraq policy, all the

while unwilling to recognize the incredible progress on the ground. His

website says the surge has only reduced violence to mid-2006 levels.

Again, verifiably false. Today, we are at the lowest violence levels in Iraq in four years.

Here's the "mid-2006" reference Hegseth cited, from Obama's web site (also saved at host for future reference, for fair use and discussion purposes):

ObamaOnIraq2006violenceCite0608.jpg


In fact, Obama's web site not only is not in sync with what the

candidate said on Friday it's not even in sync with itself, even within

that very same web page:

ObamaConflictingIraqWDs0608.jpg


Much as he might think that he's already got the election in the bag, even arrogantly having his own "presidential seal"

designed in advance of the election, a President Obama would not take

office until January 20, 2009. Sixteen months from that point in time

would be May 2010, not "the end of next year."

As to Hegseth's first-paragraph claim that all of this flipping,

flopping, and flailing by Obama is "a good political move": Baloney. It

is instead a cravenly cynical strategy that only has a chance of

working as long as Old Media stays in the tank for him. Howard Kurtz at

the Washington Post noted that the strategy largely worked in the Heller ruling (so far). But there have been some defectors, including PBS's Bonnie Erbe (at NewsBusters; at BizzyBlog);

there will be more if (or is it as?) the flagrant flip-flops continue.

And there's always New Media, which has shown little patience, even in

some cases on the left, for much of Obama's recent nonsense.

One sign that Old Media is worried about Obama's frequent flip-flopping: Newsweek's Jonathan Darman came out yesterday with a howler about how "flip-flopping has a noble history in this country." Uh-huh.

Cross-posted at BizzyBlog.com.

—Tom Blumer is president of a training and development company in Mason, Ohio, and is a contributing editor to NewsBusters



if you want another story about it, go searchbar it....

PS this is not the same story with karl rove in it...

 
he didnt have to be so rude. im sure he had something to do with the fact that this didnt air because he has so much control over the media
 
he didnt have to be so rude? did you watch it?

she was acting like a beeotch, cutting him off....

you might not the like the reply, but let the man speak..

also, explane to me how bush "has so much control over the media".......

 
ok...where to start....first of all you encouraged him to learn manners while you carried on with brilliant phrases such as "spewing dogshit", "brainwashed retard", "fucken" (with an "e") and my favorite, "pull head out of anus.". so if you expect to be taken seriously, at least proofread your post.

also, it's easy to cop out and call Bush supporters and/or conservatives in general "brainwashed"...just because the majority voted one way doesn't mean they were fooled. and if you ever watch TV or listen to the radio, you'd know most, if not all, stations are significantly right-winged, with the exception of Fox.

hardly anyone with a camera and an audience supports Bush anymore, he is ridiculed and chastised daily. so who's being brainwashed?

i'm not a supporter of either presidential canidate, nor do i even pretend that Bush has been anywhere in the neighborhood of effective during his time in office, but it's people like you that need to consider what comes from their mouth or is typed on their keyboard before you make a fool of yourself on a topic you're completley and unjustly biased on based on things you think you know about.
 
hahahaha o man Bush rude in that interview. Also, have you watched the tv or listened to the radio at all in the past three years. Bush has absolutely no control over the media whatsoever. If he did then we are truly all fucked because then were turning into socialists and communists.
 
i think you meant left-winged and I agree with you. CNN is disgustingly pro-Obama. I don't support any candidate either and I like Obama less and less with each passing day. If anyone seems brainwashed to me, it's Obama supporters.

and to rastarider, just because you don't agree with his policies or his actions does not mean he is a man who does not deserve respect. he has done nothing criminal and until someone proves (actually proves) to me otherwise, he has had the best intentions of the iraqi and american people in mind and has stuck to what he thinks is right no matter how unpopular (I'd like to see Obama stick to something unpopular, or anything for that matter).

And again, I'm also not saying what he did was right or that he went about it correctly. But you do not repeatedly disrespect a head of state by cutting them off. She could follow up with questions after he was done. Pretty simple.
 
and now i just found this little tid bit on HIS website...........

"Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades

each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months."
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/iraq/

i am honestly baffled by the difference...

if someone wants to try and ex plane this all away, go for it!

 
The last thing that the middle east needs is anymore fighting than it previously had. While Saddam was a bad person now the situation is even worse and will continue to get worse until the (prepare for butchered spelling) Sunnis and Shii'tes stop fucking fighting and start getting a long
 
while she prolly shouldnt have cut him off i know why she did it. she was trying to get real answers not pre thought out bs that his press people told him to say.
 
Oh my God. This is why the world hates us.

Did you not see how clueless he is? He obviously means well, but doesn't spend time actually using scientific evidence to back up his emotions, History will be the judge on this administration.

 
so you start by coming to bush's defence and finish by agreeing that he is indeed a joke. coherent arguement hansel...

i'm curious, why am i biased? what reason do i have to dislike bush other than based on his actions? he's been an idiot throughout his entire presidency and i dislike him for it. how is that me being biased?

and to the dude that believes bush had only good intentions with america and iraq, ARE YOU SERIOUS? i only ask because there's this stuff called oil... and its there...y'dig?
 
Ok do me a favor, google "Iraq War Statistics" and look at every site. Insurgency numbers are up, civilian casualties are up, suicide bombings are up and US solider deaths remain fairly constant; sounds like progress to me!
 
dont forget to take into account that these statistics are averages over occupation time periods. saddam was in power for much longer than 5 years giving his iraqi death toll numbers a much smaller average. to conclude: we should all take a break since this is newschoolers (not cnn.com), remember to vote in novemeber, and continue this debate next year around the same time.
 
quote me where i supported him. in no way did i even teeter on saying he has done well, just simply explained why you are wrong to believe that people support him because they are brainwashed. it's essence, it's been the exact opposite. it's trendy to hate bush because the media tells us too, as i already explained.

however, i think the term "brainwashed" and its use against people who don't think like yourself is a cop-out in itself. they've formed opinions and beliefs based on information they've gathered too, and they most likely didn't do it based on watching SNL making fun of our president or a CNN reporter glorifying Obama. (yeah, to the other dude who quoted me, i meant left, my mistake)

you're biased for the same reasons you think others are brainwashed. you've chosen to ignore facts that go against you're agrument and focus on those that support it (An Inconvienent Truth anyone...?) based on whatever your life style is or what you deem important. nobody is calling your stance wrong, but it exsists for the wrong reasons. i don't really care what your views are, just so that you make them for the right reasons and don't call everyone an idiot who doesn't agree with you.

we'll see how far your hansel jokes get you, open up your mind.
 
Several of you have pretty strong opinions about this stuff, so I'm a little curious - How many of you work in Washington?
 
if all his reply's were just BS made up by people smarter than him... why couldnt she have at least waited until he was done?

she is obviously a very successful reporter if she has been payed the privilege of interviewing the president of the united states of america. so maybe she should have brought some of that professonalism with her to this interview...

i would like to know where you thoguht bush was being played like a pawn by his press people?... i personally liked most of the interview, and see no reason it was not played on TV

 
Do you view that to be a satisfactory response?

As far as the interview decorum is concerned, neither of them were playing very fair. For starters, George W. is a terrible orator. Livng and working in Washington, I am personally connected with several individuals that coach big time politicians on proper poise and focus to maximize message delivery. Across the board, regardless of political affiliation, they all agree GWB is a downright awful speaker. Now, that weakness aside (which admittedly is a huge weakness in his line of work), that doesn't predicate with logical necessity that his policies are wrong - Its the whole content vs delivery, "medium is the message" situation. As such, if you want to attack his policy thats fine, but the ad hominem attacks make a strong position against him look cheap.

As far as the interviewer is concerned, I thought she was downright rude at points. This is the President of the United States we're talking about here, and for all intensive purposes, like it or not, he is the most powerful person in the world by title and precedent alone. As such, it seems a higher degree of respect than the one she brought to the interview is in order.

It seems strange to me that the large majority of people posting in this thread were quick to judge the President as incompetent, while a reporter from Ireland was immediately accepted like a highly qualified professional. Having spent time in both Ireland and the United States, with reporters (as friends) and with politicians (as colleagues), it seems a fair bit harder to become the President of the most powerful country in the world than it does to become a TV reporter in IRE. But, as some of you seem both well educated and seriously opposed to the idea that Bush has any idea what he's doing, I'll tag that last statement as a heuristic, personal judgement.

Whether or not you think the Iraq war is a positive is, as you all know, a huge hairy debate. Personally I'm not to fond of the non-sequitur shift in rhetoric from "WMD's" to "Liberation of Iraq", however I do recognize that we are, for all intensive purposes, stuck in the mud we made for ourselves. The wire seems to be telling us that lately things are improving in Iraq and the possibility of a free and democratic state in the middle east burns with a newfound hope. Whether or not you agree with our justifications for being there or not, reason seems to dictate fostering this flame simply because history tells nasty stories about unfinished battles in Middle East - Russia in Afghanistan and Bush Sr. in Iraq are just two.

As far as money is concerned, the Iraq war is relatively cheap when compared to other issues like the purchasing of foreign oil or entitlements (Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security). The Iraq war has in total cost roughly 1 Trillion dollars, while we spend 60% of our Federal budget on entitlements and 700 dollars anually on oil. So indeed, the war has been costly but if economics is our primary concern, it pales in comparison to other issues we have to face in the not to distant future. This is not to say that we should stay in Iraq forever, Iraqi's need to stand on their own two legs sooner rather than later, but the cost of a stable Iraq is one we can afford seeing as we're this far down the rabbit hole already.

Look, I'll never defend Bush as one of the greatest Presidents ever. I probably wouldn't put him much above average (although I wonder whether history will be kinder to him than we are now), but the low caliber of general discourse on him and his presidency is utterly appalling. America is a great country that does a lot of wonderful things (like providing half of the entire worlds food aid last year) and it just makes me sad to see people both pessimistic and apathetic about the future. We can make it better.
 
You are wrong, those results only show stats overall, not the downward trend in violence. I am sorry but insurgency numbers are down overall and so are civilian casualties., US soldier deaths and suicide bombings.

I dare you to link to an article that showes otherwise.
 
I lol'd at the entire thing. That lady was being incredibly rude.

"Just, just let me finish ok? Then you can follow up. It's much better if you just let me finish my answers."
 
i hate political discussions because i suck at them but i feel like this is more of a view point on humanity than politics. so please no political attacks.

so the interviewer was a bitch but Bush just sucks so much at talking and when he starts going off topic he just keeps going and when he says " you ask the questions and i'll answer them" well he's not really answering them. the interviewer should be able to interrupt him if he's not answering the questions she wants answered. i feel like the interviewer should be respected by bush a whole lot more even if he is the president. the interviewer has allowed bush to appear on their media and bush should respect that and do what the interviewer is telling him to do. she's asking questions that she wants answers to. she doesn't care about his reputation and all the other shit he is trying to pass off as answers.
 
yeah, i saw his latest...

do you get what im saying though?

in the primarys it was "get them home now"

then it goes to, it would need to be slow.

and now we are back to, get them home now, or move them to Afghanistan..

keep in mind those were rough paraphrases, of what he has been saying...

did you read the article i posted from news busters?

and no, i have not read his book, but if i find the time i will keep it on the list to read..

 
no one cares more about the people who die in war than bush... i wanted to punch my fucking computer screen when he said that....
 
Common sence is knowing you are talking to the President of the United States of America and giving him the respect he diserves.

 
see i dont get this. he doesnt deserve any more respect than anyone else hes just another person. for that matter he deserves less respect for fucking up our country as bad as he did
 
^exactly. Anyone else notice that for a while i guess that a republican will come in for 8 years, fuck up our economy and then a democrat comes in for 4 years. raises taxes to take away the debt made by the republicans and then loses the next election b/c he raised taxes? Clinton is a good example i think of what our country needs right now
 
^also look at the averages below, they're all over the place but they're definitely not going down, just looking at the graphs and charts screams non-stability.

 
Dude, i dont know who taught you to read graphs but there is deffinitely a downward trend since the surge.... or are you trying to be funny?
 
But think, all that's keeping it that way is a large number of military memebers only muffling the problem that is still there, when that surge pulls out the graph is going to go straight back the the last four years before that.
 
Bush made the best out of a crappy situation. You can think what you want, but I wouldn't have like to be him when 9/11 happened.

It's so funny to see how people bashing Bush talk about CLinton as a God. Clinton had the opportunity to kill terrorism before 9/11 and never made a single move.
 
So by putting us into a recession, gas higher than its ever been, the housing market in shambles, trapping us in an unwinnable war, and infringing upon our rights citizens, hes making the best out of a situation? ahhh i see
 
Yeah, he made the best out of a crappy situation he created. We were on track reforming the country after demolishing the people that attacked us on 9/11... and then we invaded Iraq.
 
So you think W is responsible for the subprime crisis, for the increase of chinese oil consumption and speculators increasing the oil price?

You CAN'T be serious
 
Go ask Bill Clinton why did he refuse to catch Bin Laden when the CIA could have got him after the first WTC terrorist attack ...

Go ask clinton why he refused to help Massoud in his war against talibans and why he'd rather go bomb the Serbians.

Go ask the UN why the let Saddam violate all their regulations during 10 years

Then, just imagine you're president of the USA on 9/11 ... what do you do? You just say "come on, that's not that a big deal, let's forget it and let's be friend with terrorist countries" ...

Come on ...
 
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