why are they called 'sag' straps, when the whole point is to reduce sagging so you don't get snow down your pants. and why buy them there when you can go to a thrift store and get them for $2, not $20. As for getting bibs. you can find them around, Oakley made them last year, I know Sessions has made them in the past along with sms, North Face and Hellyhansen should also have some.