They're great for boxes/rails/tree grinds. I just find that a wider ski "sticks" to grinds easier due to the increased surface area. They won't do change ups quite as easily as an 85 underfoot but you get used to it. Most peeps who are riding somethin that wide don't have a super tech style anyway. Typically big floaty airs and long 50/50s, butters, presses. You develop a more chill floaty style. Looks way smother IMO so it's not a bad thing.