Attributing bad grades to a teacher

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100% false. The Teacher can make or break a class yes a good part of it is up to you but a teacher isa huge part of grades.

I had a calc proffesor who literally was a NASA rocket scientist and was so god dam smart and smug. He just faced teh board talking muffled and running so fast through equations and crap and no one knew what the fuck he was doing.
 
GARSH MR. TEACHER IS SUUUCH A COCK LYKE I TOTES WROTE THE 2 PAGES I WAS SUPPOSED TO AND STUFF BUT LIKE YEA HE GAVE ME A LOW GRADE WTF

i agree with op. maybe if you didn't write it with english that was equivalent to a chinese foreign exchange student then your teacher might have actually given you a good grade. next time spend more than half an hour on it and you might see your grades go up.
 
Not true.

Some of a teachers job is subjective, like when an answer isn't necessarily right or wrong and it tells you to describe something the teacher can claim you don't get it and mark you off.

Or they'll let being late on assignments and things like that slide for some people and not for you.

 
Here's a prime example of a teacher failing to educate and henceforth being the fault of your poor grades.

1. There is a course at your school that 2 teachers teach. One of whom is an experienced teacher in that field who has worked at the school for many years. Knows his shit. The other is brand new, a complete fuck-up, who only teaches one class. They share the subject.

2. The kids who are being taught by teacher A (the good teacher) get a much more thorough education and grasp of the material because their teacher can simply teach better. Students with teacher B (the shit head) aren't taught properly.

3. Teacher A writes the tests and assignments for every class because teacher B is incapable, and expects every student (whether they have A or B) to write/hand in the same assessments.

Therefore students with teacher B have to do the same test that students with teacher A have to do, without the same level of understanding/learning, leaving them with lower grades that are out of their control.

BOOM
 
In middle school I had the teacher give me a C in gym and write "Next term, Haley should remember to bring in the correct gym uniform in order not to lose marks in this class."

My name is not Haley. It's not even remotely close. And I never forgot my gym clothes. Fuck gym.
 
Shitty teachers suck, my chem class 2 years ago watched the world cup instead of reviewing for finals. I got a 65% and passed so whatever
 
Well when your teacher doesn't teach whats on the test and expects you to magically know the information he puts on there that doesn't work too well...Also when the same teacher assigns a 20-minute presentation at the beginning of the year (a project where one person goes every 2 weeks) the same week as your graduation project is getting hectic without telling you while all the other teachers of that subject delayed the project for that month....well I'd say having trouble with that project isn't exactly your fault.
 
I failed 7th grade P.E. because I dropped kicked a volleyball and it just so happened to nail my teacher in the face. Complete coincidence but he apparently thought that it was deliberate. Fuck that shit
 
Wait until you get to grad school. You can most definitely blame the teacher sometimes. When the average on an exam is less than 50%, it's probably not the students' fault.

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you are fucking lazy and stupid then. go out and learn. After your first failed test. you realize that you arent being taught well. go get help from the other teacher. there are so many avenues to get help now-a-days in school.

BOOM!

stop blaming others. Being succesful in life comes down to how bad you want it. how succesful comes down to right place, right time.
 
Hahaha, jump down off your high horse for a minute good sir and let's have a chat.

Did I ever say that I went through this? No. I simply outlined a situation in which it was plausible that your teacher was at fault for bad grades. I've seen this happen at school my school although I have never experienced it myself.

And FYI, I'm probably the biggest keener you'll ever meet, so don't you dare accuse me of being lazy and stupid because quite frankly I am far from it.

Cheerio!
 
One time in college I was giving a group presentation on like the supreme court or something boring. And each group was assigned another group to grade their performance. So everybody got these sheets that was like, info, preparedness, etc and you graded the group 1 - 5, and the final score was whatever out of 25. Well as luck would have it we get graded by these fucktard exchange students that couldn't speak english and they gave us 3 on every category resulting in a 60% D on a relatively large project. I mean our project wasn't stellar, but we certainly didn't FAIL. So we go up after class to the teacher and were like, what the hell why did we get a D we did fine. And he interrupts with I WILL NOT DISCUSS THESE GRADES NOW OR EVER! And storms out. What a fucking cock sucker. The point is, sometimes its out of your control, and when you are paying to take a class, that is complete horseshit.

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I once got an F on a project in tech. Teacher gave me shit for it in front of the whole class. i shit you not, the next class, i got a pixy stick for the best project. that grade alone guaranteed a B for me in that class. I know a B isnt bad, but if it hadn't been an easy class It could have been a D, or a C that I got in it. so yes, psycho bitch teachers can mess with your grades.
 
and i believe i explained how its still up to the student to get a good grade in the class. dont rely on others to help you. you want something, go get it.

the fact that you think that was a plausible situation in which the student wasnt responsible for his/her grade, does lead me to believe that you think people should help you or its not your fault for failing.

No on a high horse. Ive just lived life and can see where i failed myself...and where others have failed themeselves as well.

 
yah, you need to learn some people skills.

your project sucked. what grade did you end up with in the class? did that shitty grade make you work harder to bring your grade up? why werent you working that hard the whole semester?
 
If anyone has a shitty calc prof, who assigned a shitty textbook. just look up PatrickJMT. Now you have no excuse for failing. Seriously, I would go to calculus for 5 mins just to see what section we were on and go to the library and watch patrickJMT instead.
 
1. im gonna go out on a limb and say that isn't verbatim what she said to the teacher.

2. you didnt see the project, you have no idea if it was good or not and so say it was bad without seeing it is astoundingly ignorant and big headed of you.

3. there certainly are situations where teachers are at fault for bad grades. if you live in a city and go to a really bad public school with bad teachers and little to no resources, what do you want a kid to do in order to do well? theres a reason that inner city public schools have much lower graduation rates than suburban/private schools
 
Please stop preaching "you should be trying harder, why aren't you trying harder?". What gives you the right to judge us? How do you know that outside factors (family life, commitments to other school activities like sports and committees, etc) don't have an effect on us? It seems you're quite sour this eve. Maybe you should be a teacher and pass on your criticism to people who actually care.
 
the line of questions in my post was the most important part. FYI

and inner city schools are tough, for one reason: getting good grades arent looked at as a good thing, and something you SHOULD strive for. There are plenty of good teachers at these schools(i have experience attending one, and have buddies doing Teach For America right now), but the kids just dont care about grades, because no one has made them realize its important.

The only situation where the kid is not at fault is when he doesnt know any better. when there is no social pressure to get a good grade.

If the kid does know better, than its on him to figure out what he/she needs to do to get that grade.
 
My Prof was telling me today that when he taught at some other college (I forget what college) that they were required to finish the semester with a perfect bell curve. Meaning a certain amount of people got A's, B's, C's, D's, and F's. He told us that even though kids in his class had earned an A, they had to grade them down to a B to make the perfect bell curve. They have since changed it because it was hurting kids' chances of getting into grad schools.
 
they do have an effect. to what extent they have an effect is indicative of how badly you want to get that good grade. pretty damn simple really. You chose to divert some of your time and effort into other endeavors that may or may not be beneficial towards your goals in life. Im not judging that at all.

but, you chose to do so. you didnt do everything you could to get those good grades though.

and dont take this personally i am using "you" in a general sense.

Oh, and FWIW i was a tutor or TA in college for 3 of my 4.5 years.
 
i had a proff who did the same thing but made the class really fucking easy so people had 94% and were getting a D.

it just reinforced to us(as civil engineers) that you cannot make a mistake, because your mistakes can kill people.
 
did you read casey's post? sounds like they got screwed over by foreign exchange students who didnt speak english then tried to talk to the teacher about it and got no response, nothing to do with their own attitude towards the project.

my sister is doing a similar thing to teach for america as well. i agree about the not knowing better thing, but i feel like teachers should, especially at an elementary level, be teaching kids the importance of good grades, and not doing so is something of a failure on their part, though it is really difficult. and i guess we'll have to agree to disagree. i just think there are certain situations kids can be in that makes it virtually impossible to get good grades, even if they do care.
 
I don't care what you have to say, sometimes, no matter how hard you study, and how much material you think you know, the prof will still dick you over on the exam, making it damn near impossible to do well (before the curve, that is). When the class average for an exam is in the 45% range, there's clearly something wrong with the way the prof is teaching the material, or what he is testing on is simply just not taught, period. I have had classes where no matter how far out of my way I went to look for material to study, be it text books, lecture notes, Google, etc. I could NOT do better than a 60% on an exam that semester. I still ended up with an A- in the class because the prof had to curve the grades so hard, but I just felt hopeless after every exam. A girl left our final in tears because it was so hard haha. In classes like that, I refuse to believe there was anything I could have done to do better on those exams, so I just had to rely on the curve.
 
and i asked what were his other grades in the class that didnt rely soley on foreign exchange student...that will tell you a lot about his work ethic.

I was taught in elementray school that drugs are bad, and i was a 100% believer. By freshman year in high school i was smoking weed everyday. what you learn as a kid doesnt translate to adolescence a lot of the time.

Its your social circle(family included) that define your values, morals, and goals.

But, If they have a severe learning disability or just dont know any better then yes, it is damn near impossible for them to get good grades.
 
It's MOSTLY your fault. But a teacher can definitely fuck shit up... My grade 9 math teacher was a fucktard, and I ended up getting like an 82. I finished grade 11 math with a 94, so I know it wasn't me...
 
You got an A-. i dont see what your point was.

everyone gets fucked on a test or two per semester. but you work your ass off to make up for that shitty grade right? Or the test IS THAT HARD, and the grades get curved because of it.

Most people majoring in a technical field/sciences etc had had a class where the highest grade was a 50%. but everything is curved to hell and back so you end up with a 43% B+.

You busted your ass before, during and after those tests, and voile, you go a great grade. You are what is right with the educational system.

 
Yeah, after reading it again, I don't really either haha. I guess I was just saying sometimes no matter what you do, the tests are just impossible and have to be curved at the end of the class because the prof either didn't teach the material well enough, or didn't teach it at all.
 
thats a good point about the learning thing. i guess the analogy in reverse kind if? hard to see why it would happen that way, but i guess it probably does.

so my sophmore year in high school i had just an atrocious chemistry teacher, the woman was a grad student and literally need a calculator to figure out what 48-9 was. needless to say i couldnt learn anything from her. I tried to talk to the other chem teachers at the school but they just told me i should be getting help from my own teacher, not them. i tried learning from the textbook but i'm not great at science, and especially bad at learning theory from a book, so that didnt work well either. luckily my brother is really good at chem and was able to help me enough to get okay (low B range) but not really all that great grades. what more do you think i could/should have done to learn the material better?
 
i say this because i failed my first test this semester.... i got like a 30% i did all my home work and listened in class and then i blamed it on the teacher. next test i didn't listen to the teacher and i i studied on my own and put much more time into it the second test i got a 93% of it. there is so much that people hate my teacher for... hes 563 pounds and hes homosexual.
 
it's definitely possible. My photography teacher (i know kind of stupid class, but i needed an art credit) my sophomore year wanted almost magazine quality perfection in every single photo you turned in. I worked my ass off for that class, still came out with a D. highest grade in the class at the end of the year was a 95, and that person had a darkroom in their basement and skipped two years of photography the year afterwords. and the second highest grade was a 78%. This was not on a curve whatsoever, so although i was in the top 20% of the class, i still came out with a d. fucked my gpa forever.
 
In regard to my people skills:

This was a vague summary of the long and short of how it actually happened, this was like seven years ago, but basically the conversation went something like this:

"We need to talk about our grade-"

"No I will not discuss grades!"

etc.

etc.

My project was at worst a C. I fulfilled the criteria. I made sure of it. I can deliver a decent speech. I was adequately prepared to talk about the appeals process. It was relatively simple to research and once I researched the material, it was a presentation a braindead individual could handle.

That shitty grade made me lose faith in my ability to achieve the grade I wanted in that class. "oh well, fuck it." I grinded out for B- because I did not give a fuck. Mostly because I calculated that a deserving grade on that project alone would've given me a high B and I would've probably tried harder from then on out and could've pulled an A. Whatever though, thats hypothetical.
 
You are the man, and just saved me hours of listening to grad student Hong Wu teach me Calculus 2 in Chinglish.

10/10
 
Well in Spanish right now I have a c Ailey because my in class grade is a 5/85 I have above 90% on everything else, he takes points off my in class grade because I finish my work really early and sit there with nothing to do..
 
funny, that happened to me in calc 1 in college and it worked in our favor. we had the awesome old guy burnout prof who didnt care, the other class had the stern young russian know-it-all who wrote all the tests. when the exams came along, our prof would spend the day before saying "oh and by the way if you have some lousy smart-assed question about this and that, the answer is this. just write it up like that and youre fine. why people even put that on a test i dont know, cause he's just trying to trick you, but you should all know what youre doing now" and we all got awesome grades.

seems there were a lot of college profs like that. real guys who are smart but just want you to do well and gain some knowledge, they dont want to fuck you over and trick you and laugh when they're giving you your final grades. granted, there are always people like that out there, i just found most of em were in highschool. the dickheads who give you a C for being a star athlete in the wrong color shorts or a C because you broke your collarbone on a weekend ski trip and spent some time on drugs and in the hospital and then cant get an extension for a test on monday because you "should have already been prepared". a-holes, but they're probably just pissed off that theyre only shitty highschool teachers and not some epic genius researching cancer cells while shedding some knowledge about a subject they're very proficient in amongst a class of equally interested and mature students.

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