Attention Borea!

kickerlicker

kickerlicker

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Hi Boreal,

Just your average skier here. I make it up, just not near as much as I used too. Especially going to college and all. I get back home for a couple days a year and of course this time of year I tend to ride boreal. I rode all week, I know what you do, it can't be hidden. I've seen it year after year. You set up a great feature, management or liability gets involved and wham-o next day it's noobitized. You know what I'm talking about. (the step down you had set up, or how about every xmas when you make the landings for jumps way too far so people can't kill themselves overclearing it) It's well known holidays come around and people migrate to mountain for a fun family activity. But this is America (fuck yea), and people need to be repsonsible for whatever feature they hit, no matter how stupid they do it (isn't there some liability thing on the back of the ticket). I'm coming back for christmas, I can't make a promise to mount you even though you've had a special place in my heart. I just ask one thing of you, oh dear boreal, please leave the jump setups as it was a regular season. I'll only be home dec.9th til new years and I'd like to have a good time. But if there's no snow I'll settle for riding boreal.

Thanks

kickerlicker
 
The lift lines were fucking retarded saturday. I've never seen so many people fuck up trying to get on a chairlift. As annoyed as I was, I couldn't help but laugh at all the joeys. Decent entertainment.
 
OP while most park crew guys and management will agree with you, that waiver on the back of the ticket doesn't mean shit in court when experts get involved and deem a feature "unsafe". Boreal does not use Snow Park Technologies to design and help build their features like many of the other resorts in the tahoe area (Northstar, Heavenly, Sierra at Tahoe, Squaw, and Alpine Meadows) hence forth their parks are not backed up by snow park "experts" (as defined by a court) and therefore it is easy to defeat their waiver in court.
 
thats funny...Snow Park Tech has nothing to due with what is deemed same in a court of law.

After nearly 20 yrs in the industry I have never had to defend a park I've been responsible for in a court of law. Thats' something you definitely can not say about those so called "experts" ..sorry but its the truth.

 
E, since I know you're following this thread. Could you put your 2 cents in as to changing the aerial features every holiday season?
 
I agree 100% ... I guarantee places like Mammoth, Keystone, Aspen, Breck, Whistler don't change the quality of their big jump lines because of the holiday crowd. Since Boreal is an all mtn park (a place people come specifically to ride park) and Woodward will be opening soon, why not make an effort to build the sickest jump features possible as early as possible (snow permitting) even if its about to be holiday season.
 
ERNY I think skier here agrees with you 100% Boreal is capable of puttting up a great park, but it's not consistent at all. Wish there was a surfline for boreal park, cause it's fair to good one day, and next day it's flat. 14 day forecast? well Christmas is coming so I'd say poor conditions

Could we get some acknowledgement from a BOREAL representative acknowledging the problem?
 
looks like the answer is no. I think the usual toned down park can be expected. Which is why i'm headed to CO right after new years to hit some real jumps!
 
man you guys are sure bitching a lot about a resort that invests a shitload of time, effort and money into making sure we can ride a month before natural snowfall would allow for it every single year. and this year, they are continuing to kill it with a fun rail park that's even more innovative, unique and well-maintained than in years past, and they continue to switch up the setups pretty often to keep it fresh, despite the fact that there's been virtually no snowfall to help them and holiday $ numbers are relatively low.

can you please cut them a break for a couple weeks during the holidays and appreciate all the good work they've done to bring us fantastic early season conditions in a so-far-snowless winter?!
 
best time to go is in the morning and bail before night skiing starts cuz thats when all the gapers come out
 
Bret, there's no doubt that Boreal does have a super fresh rail line, to which I give props. My post is specific to how E. changes the jump every year to make it more gaper friendly. If your thing is rails, than you probably don't even care, but I LOVE a good jump.

And are the holiday $$ numbers low??? I could say for the rest of tahoe there is no doubt they are, but I wonder about Boreal? One of the few resorts open, and with so little snow people aren't willing to fork out money for an expensive ticket at squaw or northstar for a run of manmade snow, but they are willing to for a day at Boreal. I imagine Breal has sucked up a lot business from people who would've ridden other resorts normal seasons.
 
Colorado is getting screwed just as badly as we are by lack of snow. The weather inversion there has resulted in the boulder/denver area receiving more snowfall than the resorts so far this year.

Here are some fun facts: Keystone is reporting a 20" base. Boreal is reporting a 19"-27" base.

Boreal is not reporting a season snowfall total, but Sugar bowl claims it is 35"-55". Keystone CO is claiming a 47" season snowfall total. Those stats are VERY comparable.

Granted, Keystone has WAY more resources to pull from as far as park staff is concerned, but here is what they have managed to provide with their 20" base and 47" of snowfall this year: (please skip forward to 1:50 for the current jumps at Keystone, the beginning is from Breck)

Breck and Keystone from TaylorWilson on Vimeo.

so if anyone wants to say there couldn't have been ONE decently built 40ft jump by now, they are wrong. Call that bitching if you want, but I call it presenting the facts.

 
I don't know about you, but I'd much rather roll up the hill to Boreal and pay very reasonable prices to shred a park that's worth FAR more than you're paying, than fly all the way out to Colorado to hit, maybe a little bit larger park, but that you have to pay about 80$ a ticket to attend.

Unless you have that whole epic pass thing, then it's whatever.

Boreal does a great job as a midwest sized resort in Lake Tahoe and builds a very high quality park that's safe, and fun. I have rarely had anything to complain about.
 
Attention Boreal! Keep doing what your doing. I would rather ski on grass then ski at a Colorado Vail resort.
 
I don't think the fact that boreal is a great resort that builds a great park, pushes to be open as early as possible, and has a good park manager has been questioned here so those just defending boreal and E need not in this thread and do so without gaining anything from what is being said. I think that the weather is more to blame than anything but I also think that a little constructive criticism towards the quality/size of jumps has its place. I love jumps and I would personally like to see a nice one/few as soon as possible if possible. Thanks boreal.
 
there has been a triple jump line set up for more than a week.

besides, i doubt they even have enough snow to make the landings "too long" right now haha
 
thanks boreal! ask and you shall receive
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killing squaw right now.
 
I like boreal's park but it bothers me that it's set up so snowboardy if you know what I mean. I've been skiing there the past couple weeks and I'm getting really really tired of having almost every feature be urban down
 
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