i havent skied them in a real park cause i was just testing them but... i thought they riped the mountain up... stiff enough to kill the groomers and the steeps and deeps, good in the backcountry, and lots of pop. but not on small stuff, you had to hit stuff fast to take atvantage of the pop. i used them with rossi p14's so they were pretty heavy but they felt similar to the pe's