^dude, just because theyre made in the same factory doesnt mean theyre the same skis. companies all have their own designs, materials, order of operations, etc. for example, line and k2 are made in the same factory, however k2 is known for their fiberglass in skis which line doesnt do in lieu of matrices, and k2 glues and then presses whereas line presses individually and then glues. At least thats what ive heard. if youve skiied armadas and skiied atomics i think youll find a huge difference between the skis. Our industry is a pretty small one and independent companies that everyone likes cant just start their own factories, it wouldnt make sense. 4frnt for me.