Well the Armada Armory jacket is one of the long fit jackets, about 3pm longer then the other Armada jackets. It's the same size as my Saga XL, but with smaller arms. They don't come up sort, there just not as bunched up. And I got the Armada Armory XL, they make it in XXL but it's only 1/2in to 1in longer BUT it's wider. I'm 6'1 tall and skinny so I don't need it any wider and what's a half in. Almost nothing. And like I said the XL is the same size as my XL Saga.