The ARVti isn't really that stiff, but it freaking rails! It did lose some of the slower speed playfulness that the old arv had, but the aldente fills that role now. I don't think a lot of people realize that the al dente is the same ski dimensionally as the ARVti. I think the aldente got a bad rap because soo many kids were saying, "it's the most buttery shit ever!!!" Without actually skiing them. They feel, flex wise, just like the old arv. Spark notes: if you want a playful, capable, all mtn ski get the al dente, if you want a ripping all mtn ski with solid edge hold, that will load up with energy well while carving at speed, and a little extra backbone for bashing Tahoe crud, get the ARVti.