Arizona's new immigration law

yojimbo

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anybody heard about this? seems pretty ridiculous i heard it enabled state authorities to apprehend people based on racial profiling. so basically if you look mexican they're gonna pull you over or give you a hard time if they see you anywhere. not sure if thats really what this is about or not but if so thats fucked. couldnt find any good articles except cnn blogs from that guy anderson cooper. fuck him .
 
Why did you find it neccessary to include, "except anderson cooper, fuck him"

That just made you sounds stupid
 
Last night on SNL they were saying its like almost Nazi because when is the last time you heard people just say "give me your papers" WWII. Hah, its kinda true.
 
why did you find it necessary to respond to a post that has nothing to do with anderson cooper, and only focus on anderson cooper? do you support the molestation of children? and also if you had read it it said something more like "i couldnt find any good articles except one from anderson coopers blog, fuck him". so really i was just saying that i do not find anderson cooper a credible news source and reject his efforts as a journalist, and was hoping perhaps someone from arizona who knew something about this could comment, or someone could find a better article on it because frankly I am too busy playing gnarshmallow while dropping deuce to look into it any further than i already have.
 
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i personally hate mexicans with a passion.... its not even a racial thing, its just the people from that country. they come here, fuck over our economy, dont learn english, so we have to have everything in spanish for THEM. i think the mexicans that get caught coming over the border should be givin some sort of tattoo, and if they try their luck coming over again... they will be uber fucked.
 
i agree with this soooo much!

but, if they come over here legally, learn english and contribute to society, then im totally good with it.
 
Where do you live? If you dont live anywhere near the mexican boarder, fuck off with your claiming that we have to have everything in spanish for THEM... because there's probably not a billboard anywhere near you that's in spanish if you live outside of any of the southwestern states...

That said. I live in one of said states. California to be exact. It used to be part of Mexico - along with the rest of the southwest USA. And I have NO PROBLEM with the fact that 5% of the signs I see in this state are in 2 different languages... oh, and hablo, espanol.

You probably have had almost no interactions with mexicans in your life... if you did? you'd realize that they are not the economy-fucking, anti-english speaking people you claim them to be.

Not to mention... I bet you have NO CLUE how much of the percentage of illegals are actually not even mexican, but are actually CENTRAL americans from places like Guatamala, El Salvador, and Nicaragua...

You're an ignorant idiot. Comer mierda y morir puta...
 
Not necessarily fucking over our economy. Who is picking our crops? Illegals. In a way we need these illegals picking our crops because the rest of America is too fucking lazy to get out there and pick crops, yet they bitch all the time about how hard finding a job is.

However, that does not even come close to outweighing the damage they are doing to our country. America needs a little bit of change and I commend Arizona for stepping up and creating this law. They're using our emergency rooms as their doctor's office, they're giving birth in our country to gain our welfare, even though they are illegal, our government is giving them driver's licenses and they immediately drop their auto insurance plan once they get their license, they are taking up over 50% of prisons in border states (In recent years, CA has spent more money building prisons than on public education), they are joining gangs, causing violence, and stealing, their children attend public schools, yet they pay no taxes. People constantly bitch about taxes going up, yet no one really thinks about the billions of government dollars that go towards these ILLEGAL immigrants (Yes, people that DON'T belong here). Solutions are simple, keep them out and deport them. They don't deserve a stay in our prison system when they break the rules, they don't deserve anything if they don't pay taxes.

My solutions:

1. Create a migrant worker program. Program would allow a worker to come into country for a certain amount of time (such as Summer farming season), they pay taxes, receive minimum wages, their family stays home, when their time is up, they get on a bus and go back down. They stop paying taxes, they stop getting paid (Taxes should be taken straight from paycheck to insure they get paid).

2. Any illegal found in America is deported. No calls to family, no time to go back and get your stuff/money, you just go right home.

3. A child born here with illegal parents, is an illegal child and the parents earn no welfare from the anchor baby.

4. If troops are being brought home from Iraq/Middle East, give them a job to do and let them help patrol our border. If i was in the military I would way rather patrol the border than be on the front lines out in the Middle East.

5. Make the deportation process painstaking for them. Use an old cargo plane, cram them into the back, no lights, no seats, no food, and no climate control. Fly them to a desolate part of Southern Mexico and drop them there.

6. If the consequences of getting caught in America are harsh, then it will keep these bitches out.
 
why did you find it necessary to inculde anderson cooper in the post if the post has "nothing to do with anderson cooper"?
 
The thing is, many of their children arent attending our public schools at all. Instead, most of them are either in the fields helping their parents, or staying home with grandparents in mexico, or something like that.

the ones who are having their children attend our schools, are working retarded hard trying to just make enough to afford food... and they cannot receive any welfare money as it is, or if they somehow find a way to get 200 bucks out of the government, there arent enough who have figured out how to rip off the system enough to do such a thing for it to really make much of a dent.

Yes, many are causing violence with gangs and stuff, but most of that is caused by gangs that come here to cause violence and enter the drug trade as it is. We should be going after THOSE GUYS not the more innocent of the illegals. Go after the narco traffickers who cause these people to join gangs and shit... THATS where our money is being sucked away... its from those fuckfaces...

California has also built more prisons because of the increasing population... its not because of the Latinos so much as that crime is seen as a more important thing to target than education is... so to keep up with the population, they build prisons. They dont however allocate enough money to build enough schools to keep up with this same growth...

(an example of this = You never see your local government election posters say "will repair education!" they all say "TOUGH ON CRIME! Grr!" - Crime is just seen as the easiest thing to battle against in order to get re-elected.. unfortunately education is always 2nd fiddle - least in california)

My solutions:

Build schools.

Deport fuckfaces who bring in coke and start methlabs.

Keep those who dont participate in this stuff, and work their butts off like real Americans - make it less scary for them to get permits to work in order to make it more legal - because right now? "La Migre" = anyone who's white who has anything to do with the government.
 
i don't see why this is such a big deal...

if you don't have citizenship in america, you DONT FUCKING BELONG HERE

if a cop asks you for proof that your a citizen, be fuckin glad your american and show him

and if your not get out...you don't belong here. go get citizenship, don't sneak across the border
 
Arizona and New Mexico are the perfect places for mexican immigration. They could really turn the situation are by letting immigrants come into certain states legally to work, keep track of them, and give them the opportunity to return to mexico or assimilate into american culture. But the only way you can let more immigrants in legally is to police the border more heavily. Plus you have to have a pretty good system of keeping track of legal immigrants. If more immigrants were legal and held responsible for their actions we would have less mexicans to fuck over the healthcare industry with their emergency room visits.

tough situation

 
i really don't care as long as there paying taxes, which their not so it angers me. i come from a poor house and had to go to open clinics all my life and I'd say about 97% of the people there were Spanish i maybe only say 3 other white people.
 
Let me ask a question.
Does this have anything to do with that fucking Joe Arpegio (sp?) guy? ?I fucking hate that guy and it seems like every time something silly happens with law enforcement in the south west he shows up somewhere.
 
sadly, more than 5 people seem to agree with this bullshit. seriously, history is there so we can see the mistakes of the past. and treating a certain "kind" of people like this is not almost nazi, its nazi.

just remember that it always starts like this. once its in the public mind that everybody with a darker tan is a criminal, they can get more drastic with every legislation period.

its not like nazis came out and said: "seriously, we gonna kill everybody whos not arian". no, they started with laws like this, than forbid marriages with jews/roma/sinti/etc, than they put in a law who allows arians to simply occupy jewish properties and so on...

again: history. learn it.
 
Fuck you dude your an asshole. We stole this land from them anyway. Where I live its all Mexicans. The closest supermarket to my house is Vallarta. I fucking love it. I get up every day and walk over there for some enchiladas, then I buy $5.00 tall tees from the Homeros next door and listen to the mariachi music blasting in the parking lot.
Fucking love Mexicans. Fucking love Mexican chicks too.
 
this.

just saying that they need to get out is retarded and ignorant. America was founded on accepting anyone, its the land of the FREE. we should be proud that people want to be here and contribute, and MOST of these people bust their ass way harder than any one of us. But, I agree, we need to control the issue better. this law is not the right way however, its just racist.
 
My sister lives in Dallas and got in a car accident a couple months ago(not her fault) with some illegal immigrant who was drunk but had no license, proof of citizenship, or insurance . He was begging her not to call the police. Things like this are ridiculous. He ended up giving her $500 for the crash
 
I'm all for it legally and I don't really mind the job part. People complain so much but for real, if they left and didn't for the jobs they did would you really do it? If you really want them to leave so you can pick fruit and clean up barf then be my guest.
 
dude, i'm in minnesota. for some reason there are plenty of mexicans here. hell, there's even a fucking barrio in western St. Paul, i got a burrito there a couple weeks ago. There are plenty, if not all signs in spanish in that neighborhood. the public schools even in the suburbs of MN are packed up the ass with mexican kids that speak little to no english, or are the only english speakers in their family; and yes they are mexican, not central or south american. Oh! and guess who i caught with my 10 year old neighbors "lost" bike last summer.... it might be just my personal experience with these people, i dont know; i try not to be directly prejudice towards them. but it just seems like generally they tend to be illegal, as well as not helping our economic situation very much. thumbs up to the ones who come here legally and make an honest living, good for them. but i have a very bad impression of people of this nationality.
 
first of all.. they aren't spanish... I'm pretty sure of that.

Second of all, you're totally profiling there... SO WHAT if they are latino? You're in New York right? (based on your profile) Do you know that your state has the 2nd highest latino population in the country? A lot of latinos have moved here legally. usually when they get here they are poor. I have gone to free clinics a lot of the time, since I used to not have any healthcare... and yeah, when I did go there, there were a LOT of latinos... but that does not mean they are illegals all the time dude...

Most of the time, illegals try to stay out of the public eye as much as possible. Most wont go to free clinics, because 'la migre' checks there sometimes... and almost all the time, you need at least some sort of documentation to recieve care from even a free clinic. Least in California, I had to show my drivers license and give them my social security to get helped out at the county clinics... there were a few people who definitely were turned away i'm sure if they werent in serious need of help...

 
to be honest, i agree with this law, mainly because immigration is getting out of hand. if it weren't this bad and our economy wasn't so fucked i would be all for the mexicans coming to the US to make something out of their lives but seeing as how our need to fix the economy is so deep and getting closer to desperate, we must act. desperate times cause for desperate measures and there's no reason for us not to get these pendejos out of our country when they are the icing on the cake to all our other problems and issues.
 
If it's a barrio, then why are you bitching that the signs are in spanish. 75% of the people who live there are probably spanish speaking... so why the fuck not. If you're so upset about the signs being in spanish, then either go learn some spanish, or go back to where your precious white people are...

Maybe minnesota just has problems and doesnt check students who enroll in their schools. Start giving more money to the school system and you might not have such a problem eh? In california, and i'm sure arizona, and new mexico as well, all check students who enroll. They need to have birth certs and their SS#. Or else? goodbye. you cant be here.

Some people forge it i'm sure... but in those cases, they are usually parents who REALLY want their kids to have a better life. Plus? They dont give enough money to schools as it is (instead, they build prisons and power plants) and the more heads in the classroom? the more money allocated towards schools.

Yeah, the 1% of said heads in the classrooms dont have taxes going to the government... but their families are so poor that even if they WERE paying taxes, they wouldnt be giving very much to the bottom line, now would they?

Anyways... You got a burrito there did you? If there were no mexicans, you wouldnt have been enjoying a burrito now would you? God... mexicans suck so much dont they... they should all just be lined up and thrown to the firing squad... forcing us to read signs in spanish and eat delicious burritos? GOD i hate them too...

for fuck sake...
 
Stories like this pale in comparison to the amount of Americans who just dont have car insurance to begin with... then commit hit&runs...

Sucks, but at least homie gave her some skrill...
 
The bill is overwhelmingly popular in AZ, over 70% approve. Shit is going to hell there and the federal government hasn't done a damn thing. Violence, crime, kidnapping, drugs, rape, murder.....you name it. There is a serious problem with illegal immigration in AZ, someone had to do something about it. There will be legal battles, and Obama is vowing to overhaul, but it's refreshing to see that someone is actually doing something about it. I predict a solid win for this woman in the next elections.
 
last year while we were having this huge camping 90 people all ages week off of highway 12 between white pass and yakima. we rent out this campsite that is right on rimrock lake. we were in our house boat but we had a tent on the end of the camp site. so all of sudden in like 15 min a fuckin caravan of beaner roll up and set up camp in our site and start useing our porta potties that we all payed for so i come back to my tent and like theres trash all around it some one had shit on the ground. so i go up and talk to one of the guys who is like i dont speak english. so i get my buddy who is fluent. and the next thing i know this one cholo shows me the butt of his 5 shooter in his waistband.. so i show him my 45 with a 10 shot clip that is on my chest holster and i say. lets not have a shit storm here. and so i pack up my tent and go back to the boat. now these mexicans start driving their boats at full speed by the house boat that me and my buddies are on. and im like what the fuck. like they got fucking close as shit and were flipping us off. now i get in touch with joe who is in charge of the whole camping shindig. and joe has more guns then the guy from tremors. and i tell him about what is going down. so he goes over and they all play possum even though the spots they were in were vacent they were our spots for the week. they refuesed to move so we called the forest servace. and i tell you what. as soon as the truck got there it was a madhouse of people packing shit and bailing... thats my only bad mexican story for me.

but realy i dont give a shit. i dont care what colour your skin is or what you belive. as long as you not a fuckin asshole i will prob get along with you!
 
its the same stuff everywhere. in mid/western europe the scapegoats are people from turkey, the maghreb and the middle/near east.

if something goes wrong, the easiest thing is to blame immigrants. it goes "out of hand", blabla. i have never had a problem with a turkish guy and i eat a lot of turkish food, pretty much everyday after college and i like it.

tourism is pretty big around here and all the "locals" are like: "they take us our jobs" and this whole bullshit, but seriously, noone of "us" would go dishwashing in a hotel or clean restaurants all winter (6 days of work). we are all so lucky to live in countries that others look up to, and we still act like it belongs to "us" and all this nationalism bullshit.
 
heres how you stop illegal immigrants.

lets be honest, no matter how many walls we build, border patrollers we have, etc. they are going to keep coming. as long as there are still better opportunities here, they will find a way.

so we take away those opportunities. fine every business that hires illegal immigrants 30 grand or so per illegal. pretty soon, they will stop hiring illegal immigrants, because its just no longer financially sensible.

people are so quick to put all the blame on the illegal immigrants, but what about the people who are HIRING them. thats also illegal.
 
Most illegals aren't working for businesses... they are doing side-job work such as gardening or picking stuff in fields. Maybe 1% of companies actually hire them, and even then they arent making jack shit anyway, and the businesses are hardly that legitimate...

The way you stop illegals is by keeping track of them. They're going to come no matter what. Instead of making them illegal, force them into the system. Either get kicked out, or sign up for a permit to work here so we at least know you're here, and can make you pay taxes and stuff WHILE you're here.

Lets stop being scary and saying "GET THE FUCK OUT MY CUNNNTREEEEE" and be more accepting, because we really have no choice.

 
Look at it this way, I am a white European, I came here under questionable circumstances, but eventually got citizenship. Now if I was still illegal, would I be "questioned about my immigration status" because I look like a white European immigrant, or would I not be questioned because I don't look mexican.

Now that is the inherent racism in this law.
 
i suppose thats true. and i 100% agree that the GTFO my country thing is absurd.

but "keeping track of them" certainly isnt easy either.

idk, its an interesting problem. and there certainly is no simple solution.
 
I'm not saying it's going to be an easy thing...

but at this stage, going around to every mexican, checking to see if they are legally here, and then kicking them out if they arent?

That doesnt seem like a plan that will work out well in my opinion...
 
absolutely. its legalizing racial profiling, something i thought we got rid of (legally speaking at least) a long time ago.
 
but what if someone steals it? with a little bad luck you have no identity without your birth/citizenship certificate.

its just not something that everyone should carry around all the time.
 
then it's like if you get pulled over and the cop looking you up in the database...that easy

their not going to do it to a normal looking american if you know what i mean

this is meant to cut down on illegal immigrants coming into our country

 
don't think they are because i have not heard one that can speak English and when i try to talk to most of the nurses there they have a vary hard time trying to understand me. i myself don't have a lot of money but, i live in westchester one of the riches county's in the country top 2% and all they do here is lawn work nothing wrong with that but i also had to go to court the other day and guess who 90% of the people there were.
 
Hmmm What does a normal looking american look like to you?

Because, i dont know where you come from... but where I am? Americans come in all shapes, sizes, colours, languages, ethnic backgrounds, and are the most diverse group of people in the world...

So... again, let me ask you... What do you mean by NORRRMAL looking americans? Because if you something i dont, i need to be filled in...
 
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