Are you preparing?
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im currently storing my surplus gasoline in a huge underground vault. so when there is no more oil left i can charge insane prices for it!!!!!!
freestyler540
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Quebec will not be troubled too much by the Oil crisis. We rely on electricity;Quebec is the main producer in hydroelectricity. So heating problem is solved. Transport must be changed, instead of using cars, we will use highly effiant trains like in Japan.
Anyway, I have a scouting background, so I will survive.
Anyway, I have a scouting background, so I will survive.
turbinhunter
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Do you mean to tell me that you base your political opnions off of websites like that? HAHAHA! That's almost sad. Anyone can make a webpage and put the most far-fetched bullshit on there and declare it as fact. It's about like believing everything you see on TV. Post a study done by a non-biased, qualified group (i.e. a study done at a university) if you want anyone to take you seriously. Until then, don't waste server space with that garbage.
-benedetto
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hopefully after we die lmfao.
i'm a good american
i'm a good american
JockinJLoads
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ill probably peace out to some random place in the woods
bcjibs
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it doesnt matter if one city or one country does not use oil, because if the economy of most other countries fail, especially the superpowers then everything is messed up.
basic fundamentals that we take for granted about our lives now are run from oil, electricity, operating business, numerous goods all come from or are aided by oil.
so lets say quebec doesnt use much oil, the rest of canada does, and so does its neighbor and cheap trade partner the US. Trade affects both these countries profoundly and prices for everything will skyrocket and the cost of living will far outweigh most peoples income.
***however***
these estimates are based off the use of current oil fields. much R&D has gone into developing ways to tap the much harder oil reserves for a cheaper cost then what it is today. also oil exploration and geological advances help find more conventional and non-conventional sources of oil.
this seems to be an extremist sort of view, but it seems like we as a society need something big like this to shock us into reality. its a real problem with devestating results if alternatives arent being worked on and developed now.
sadly developing these alternatives and applying them in our infastructure is expensive and most are not willing the pay since we have an 'endless' supply of oil. people need to realize the impacts of the way they live and that eventually it will push back if we continue like this.
basic fundamentals that we take for granted about our lives now are run from oil, electricity, operating business, numerous goods all come from or are aided by oil.
so lets say quebec doesnt use much oil, the rest of canada does, and so does its neighbor and cheap trade partner the US. Trade affects both these countries profoundly and prices for everything will skyrocket and the cost of living will far outweigh most peoples income.
***however***
these estimates are based off the use of current oil fields. much R&D has gone into developing ways to tap the much harder oil reserves for a cheaper cost then what it is today. also oil exploration and geological advances help find more conventional and non-conventional sources of oil.
this seems to be an extremist sort of view, but it seems like we as a society need something big like this to shock us into reality. its a real problem with devestating results if alternatives arent being worked on and developed now.
sadly developing these alternatives and applying them in our infastructure is expensive and most are not willing the pay since we have an 'endless' supply of oil. people need to realize the impacts of the way they live and that eventually it will push back if we continue like this.
back_woods
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heating is still gazmetro man. we dont have electric furnaces here. and it gets COLD in the winters.
dont forget the other half of the cycle... if you believe in 'global climate change' due to burning fossil fuels then you believe thats the reason for increasingly strong hurricanes and such and then:
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:7hJYRnA6yn8J:www.terradaily.com/news/energy-tech-05zzzzzzp.html+oil+rigs+destroyed+by+katrina&hl=en&gl=ca&ct=clnk&cd=1
i dont know whos right, but id rather play it safe and at least try and think up solutions than spend my old age picking potatoes in what used to be whistler village... or something
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:7hJYRnA6yn8J:www.terradaily.com/news/energy-tech-05zzzzzzp.html+oil+rigs+destroyed+by+katrina&hl=en&gl=ca&ct=clnk&cd=1
i dont know whos right, but id rather play it safe and at least try and think up solutions than spend my old age picking potatoes in what used to be whistler village... or something
skoganskier101
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when the heck are fuel cells gonna come out, i guess we could use that bio diesel stuff for cars, but that woukld be expensive, i think that if everyone stopped buying these huge suv's that get 10 or 12 miles a gallon than the problem would be solved, or at least delayed
$$SPINNERS$$
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i haven't read that article, but in the oil sands in norhtern alberta there are an estimated 54 billion barrels of oil that is all recoverable. even with new technology they could get more. and for heating houses there is 500 trillion cubic feet of coal bed methane in Alberta which is used like natural gas. i wouldn't stock up yet. hahaha
lanks
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it's not the mere fact that we're running out of oil that's the problem though, because yes there is still a huge amount of oil out there. it's the fact that demand for oil is going to overshoot supply of oil by so much that the global economy will suffer more than we can imagine.
whattheshit
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shut the fuck up with these apoctalyptic political threads,
i don't give a fuck, here.. ill tell you why.
first of all this guy has a degree in politcal science. fucking useless. then he went on to get a law degree and now he is talking about oil? i don't understand.
why isn't his work assigned for reading for environmental studies/geography classes. geeee i wonder. maybe because i was told this in my environmental studies course....
it only seems like there is a shortage happening because we are consuming faster than we can produce. there are so many untapped oil reservoirs that we don't have the means of accessing yet or its into much of a remote location. look at the recent oil discovery in the gulf of mexico and how far they had to drill for it, something like 34,000 feet that drill is higher than mount everest.
now imagine the other oil availiable that we still don't yet have the technology to tap into.
i don't give a fuck, here.. ill tell you why.
first of all this guy has a degree in politcal science. fucking useless. then he went on to get a law degree and now he is talking about oil? i don't understand.
why isn't his work assigned for reading for environmental studies/geography classes. geeee i wonder. maybe because i was told this in my environmental studies course....
it only seems like there is a shortage happening because we are consuming faster than we can produce. there are so many untapped oil reservoirs that we don't have the means of accessing yet or its into much of a remote location. look at the recent oil discovery in the gulf of mexico and how far they had to drill for it, something like 34,000 feet that drill is higher than mount everest.
now imagine the other oil availiable that we still don't yet have the technology to tap into.
lanks
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im going to repeat exactly what you wrote again.
"there are so many untapped oil reservoirs that we don't have the means of accessing yet or its into much of a remote location. look at the recent oil discovery in the gulf of mexico and how far they had to drill for it, something like 34,000 feet that drill is higher than mount everest."
this is EXACTLY why the situation is alarming. i'm all for the cornucopian viewpoint in most respects, but the situation we are in worldwide with oil is a different story. we have tapped most of the ACCESSIBLE oil reserves in the world. the reserves that exist but are in super remote, deep, or protected areas will NOT be tapped in the near future, because huge oil corporations are a business, and want profit. these reserves you are talking about cost so much to tap into that it isn't worthwhile for anyone.
so unless giant not-for-profit oil corporations spring up, or we get a serious technological boost in the next few years, the peak oil nightmare WILL happen, because supply will be completely outstripped by demand.
"it only seems like there is a shortage happening because we are consuming faster than we can produce."
oil shortage is NOT the point here, either. the fact that we are consuming it faster that producing it means that we are, or are very quickly going to be on the downward side of the curve. hence, peak oil. simple economics.
by the way, i have studied this in university. i am a geography major. i've taken economics. peak oil is a valid concern.
as far as the author, a degree in political science has everything to do with the peak oil crisis.
you are wrong.
"there are so many untapped oil reservoirs that we don't have the means of accessing yet or its into much of a remote location. look at the recent oil discovery in the gulf of mexico and how far they had to drill for it, something like 34,000 feet that drill is higher than mount everest."
this is EXACTLY why the situation is alarming. i'm all for the cornucopian viewpoint in most respects, but the situation we are in worldwide with oil is a different story. we have tapped most of the ACCESSIBLE oil reserves in the world. the reserves that exist but are in super remote, deep, or protected areas will NOT be tapped in the near future, because huge oil corporations are a business, and want profit. these reserves you are talking about cost so much to tap into that it isn't worthwhile for anyone.
so unless giant not-for-profit oil corporations spring up, or we get a serious technological boost in the next few years, the peak oil nightmare WILL happen, because supply will be completely outstripped by demand.
"it only seems like there is a shortage happening because we are consuming faster than we can produce."
oil shortage is NOT the point here, either. the fact that we are consuming it faster that producing it means that we are, or are very quickly going to be on the downward side of the curve. hence, peak oil. simple economics.
by the way, i have studied this in university. i am a geography major. i've taken economics. peak oil is a valid concern.
as far as the author, a degree in political science has everything to do with the peak oil crisis.
you are wrong.
fourdskate
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yeah dude, like that website about the dave chappelle theory. it was talking about how oprah and bill cosby were trying to kill him and like held his kids hostage or something.
ski_cartel
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oh fuck man forget the fact that we wont be able to run or cars or heat our homes, what about our ski lifts!!
prosnurfer
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we should all ride electric scooters everywhere and save the planet!!!
bermbuster49
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haha yeah cas you can just plug your cars in at home and drive around the world with a big enough cord.
but really, we have time, i think a lot of company's will adopt different types of energy, its what needs to be done, i know in like africa or somewhere they are using ethanol from sugar cane to power there auto-mobile's, they said its the wave of the future or some shit. hey it could happen, but we'll find out sooner or later.
but really, we have time, i think a lot of company's will adopt different types of energy, its what needs to be done, i know in like africa or somewhere they are using ethanol from sugar cane to power there auto-mobile's, they said its the wave of the future or some shit. hey it could happen, but we'll find out sooner or later.
he gets it
whattheshit doesn't.
turbinhunter doesnt
that guy who hates tommy doesnt.
If you whould have read that "article", you would have seen that we currently obtain oil at a ratio of 30 to one
thats 30:1
Oil:cash
Now, the alberta Oil sands, the"saviour"
First of all, its horrible land rape, drag open pit mining, which produces oil; at a ratio of:
1.5 to one
thats:
1.5:1
Now, if you compare 30:1, and 1.5:1
what do you think the price of oil will do once our oil supply relies on tar sands?
YOure looking at a 500-1000% increase in the price of oil.
maybe that figure is a bit high, but you catch my drift.
When gas, simple gas for our cars is at $5.00 a litre, can you afford 160-200$ a tank?
whack.
whatever.
you care, you dont care,
youll deal with it when it gets here,
youll pass the buck for someone else to figure out.
Thats nothing to be proud about or brag about, how societally irresponsible you are.
Dont fucking tell me to shut the fuck up and dont worry about it, and were all idiots for caring, because you know what?
When you come to my garden asking for some eggs and tomatoes, youre the one Im going to shoot in the face.
Fuck off and die somewhere.
maybe i can make hydro carbons from your corpse.
(i know it takes millions of years, dont even bother posting that)
im done.
for now.
whattheshit doesn't.
turbinhunter doesnt
that guy who hates tommy doesnt.
If you whould have read that "article", you would have seen that we currently obtain oil at a ratio of 30 to one
thats 30:1
Oil:cash
Now, the alberta Oil sands, the"saviour"
First of all, its horrible land rape, drag open pit mining, which produces oil; at a ratio of:
1.5 to one
thats:
1.5:1
Now, if you compare 30:1, and 1.5:1
what do you think the price of oil will do once our oil supply relies on tar sands?
YOure looking at a 500-1000% increase in the price of oil.
maybe that figure is a bit high, but you catch my drift.
When gas, simple gas for our cars is at $5.00 a litre, can you afford 160-200$ a tank?
whack.
whatever.
you care, you dont care,
youll deal with it when it gets here,
youll pass the buck for someone else to figure out.
Thats nothing to be proud about or brag about, how societally irresponsible you are.
Dont fucking tell me to shut the fuck up and dont worry about it, and were all idiots for caring, because you know what?
When you come to my garden asking for some eggs and tomatoes, youre the one Im going to shoot in the face.
Fuck off and die somewhere.
maybe i can make hydro carbons from your corpse.
(i know it takes millions of years, dont even bother posting that)
im done.
for now.
Itsbackfliptime
Active member
What about ANWR? Wouldn't that work better than tar sand?
skiinscotland
Member
the scary thing is thaty this probably happen in our life time, but it's going to the next generation that will have to clean up this mess unless we act now!
$$SPINNERS$$
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in the next ten years there will be an increase in alternate fuels as well^. such as ethanol
Itsbackfliptime
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american northwest wildlife reserve.
SnowMedic
Active member
I have to say this,
I am a proud redneck western american who loves my trucks. My Huge F250 lifted and so on gets a dame good 14-16mpg, along with my other excersion with is near the same mpg(that ones not mine its mi padres)
The war in Iraq is not about oil, if it were we wouldn't be pay'in so dame much for gas.
But while we are over ther we should start having the new iraqi goverment pay off their debit to the US by giving us oil.
I'm done, i know someone will attack me for this but guess what
my big trucks gonna crush your prius like a dame bug.
I am a proud redneck western american who loves my trucks. My Huge F250 lifted and so on gets a dame good 14-16mpg, along with my other excersion with is near the same mpg(that ones not mine its mi padres)
The war in Iraq is not about oil, if it were we wouldn't be pay'in so dame much for gas.
But while we are over ther we should start having the new iraqi goverment pay off their debit to the US by giving us oil.
I'm done, i know someone will attack me for this but guess what
my big trucks gonna crush your prius like a dame bug.
Kevo
Active member
Honestly I think I would be ok if this happened. Some friends and I are already talking about running up into the mountains and starting a commune. I've got a good 30 mile head start on the population of Denver, and it is really about who can get over the Indian Peaks first, and I'm in pretty damn good shape. I'm good to go. Give me a week and I'll be somewhere far enough away from substantial numbers of other people and in a place with enough elk and fish to feed me and a select few for a lifetime.
Thats mostly just kidding, but I really could live without modern conveeniences, the problem is truly getting far enough away from large population centers where you can live off the land without having hundreds of thousands of other people trying to do the exact same thing in the same place as you.
Thats mostly just kidding, but I really could live without modern conveeniences, the problem is truly getting far enough away from large population centers where you can live off the land without having hundreds of thousands of other people trying to do the exact same thing in the same place as you.