i actually just bought a pair of chopsticks. they are lighter than my 181 scott p4,s and a little softer, the rocker isn't mega huge either, but after watching hell bents chatter up and down i wasn't too stoked on them. I think people who don't like the chopstick are looking for more of a slower speed powder ski, while people looking for the chopstick are wanting to go fast, but still have some slower speed jibbing fun. not not having skied them i can't say for sure but i sure am stoked on them.