Are look pivots really hype?

[Disvo]

are look pivots really that hype? i have been running marker on all my skis for my whole life is just got paid and am wondering if pivots are really that good i have been trolled by my homies before for running my on3ps without pivots i am thinking of buying some but DAMN why is they 400 bones are they worth it do i really need 15 din dose anyone actually run the din up to max lmk

 

[deac]

if you have an evo store near you I got brand new pivot 15s for 255 cuz I price matched with them

 

[keagan.karstens]

I think if ur legitimately skiing super hard with heavy spins/impacts then yes. But otherwise anything works. I’m 6’4 and ski kinda hard and never had issues with my attacks, I did although switch to pivots cuz my comp kid friends convinced me to. If u wanna spend extra money then do it there’s no right or wrong.

 

[Disvo]

if you have an evo store near you I got brand new pivot 15s for 255 cuz I price matched with them

thanks vro i'm right next to evo salt lake

 

[jmabes]

if you have an evo store near you I got brand new pivot 15s for 255 cuz I price matched with them

What shop did you price match them with?

**This post was edited on Sep 16th 2024 at 3:41:05pm

 

[Koshermilk]

I think if ur legitimately skiing super hard with heavy spins/impacts then yes. But otherwise anything works. I’m 6’4 and ski kinda hard and never had issues with my attacks, I did although switch to pivots cuz my comp kid friends convinced me to. If u wanna spend extra money then do it there’s no right or wrong.

He’s 4 ft

 

[deac]

What shop did you price match them with?

**This post was edited on Sep 16th 2024 at 3:41:05pm

I forgot but it has to be an American brand, and same exact brake size and color for it to be viable.

 

[deac]

thanks vro i'm right next to evo salt lake

np cro Evo employees are always chill and helpful

 

[NSCrip69]

Pivots aren’t worth it at all. Attack 14’s are half the price and will give you the exact same performance (technically it’ll be better performance since the attack has a lower stack height). You lose a bit of durability since the pivot is all metal but that also makes them a lot heavier. Pivots are a 50 year old design and people only buy them based on their reputation which they have far outlived. Tyrolia and other manufacturers are coming out with innovative designs and actually invest in R&D

 

[deac]

Pivots aren’t worth it at all. Attack 14’s are half the price and will give you the exact same performance (technically it’ll be better performance since the attack has a lower stack height). You lose a bit of durability since the pivot is all metal but that also makes them a lot heavier. Pivots are a 50 year old design and people only buy them based on their reputation which they have far outlived. Tyrolia and other manufacturers are coming out with innovative designs and actually invest in R&D

the fuck up pussy. mad annoying

 

[Disvo]

Pivots aren’t worth it at all. Attack 14’s are half the price and will give you the exact same performance (technically it’ll be better performance since the attack has a lower stack height). You lose a bit of durability since the pivot is all metal but that also makes them a lot heavier. Pivots are a 50 year old design and people only buy them based on their reputation which they have far outlived. Tyrolia and other manufacturers are coming out with innovative designs and actually invest in R&D

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[KilaTsunami]

Pivots aren’t worth it at all. Attack 14’s are half the price and will give you the exact same performance (technically it’ll be better performance since the attack has a lower stack height). You lose a bit of durability since the pivot is all metal but that also makes them a lot heavier. Pivots are a 50 year old design and people only buy them based on their reputation which they have far outlived. Tyrolia and other manufacturers are coming out with innovative designs and actually invest in R&D

The height of the binding is a preference. Higher means more leverage edge to edge, Lower means better snow feel. I have both and definitely notice a difference. I'm not sure I'd say one was better than another.

 

[NSCrip69]

Butthurt because you spent your entire monthly allowance on overpriced pivots? It’s ok sport, only 14 more days until you get your next allowance. You’ll be fine.

the fuck up pussy. mad annoying

 

[jmabes]

I forgot but it has to be an American brand, and same exact brake size and color for it to be viable.

Word, it would be a game changer if they were price matching sites like bob leisure

 

[NSCrip69]

If you have to wait until you get paid to be able to afford Pivots, probably not the best financial decision, sport.

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[JFU]

They’re good in the bumps since they have higher elasticity in most cases in both toe and heel compared to other bindings so they don’t pre release. They are also bullet proof. Best next option is sth2 which can be found for cheap if you’re budgeting.

pivot toe elasticity: ~40mm

attacks: ~30mm

Marker: ~30mm

sth2: ~52mm

pivot heel elasticity: ~28mm

attacks: ~16mm

Marker: ~16mm

sth2: ~16mm

 

[Koshermilk]

A lot of stores will price match as long as you can find the exact same product online for cheaper

 

[PartyBullshiit]

thanks vro i'm right next to evo salt lake

https://www.bobleisure.com/look-pivot-15-gw?number=152-3607683992928

$267 in all brakes sizes for the forza. Free shipping.

a little bit more if you want the other colors.

best binding on the market.

pivot15/18

Sth2 16

Strive 16’s.

everything else.

 

[deac]

Butthurt because you spent your entire monthly allowance on overpriced pivots? It’s ok sport, only 14 more days until you get your next allowance. You’ll be fine.

I spent 250 dumbfuck more than your dads child support bill

 

[deac]

Word, it would be a game changer if they were price matching sites like bob leisure

Yeah would be nice, but you can find a small ass American brand that has stuff on sale just gotta look hard

 

[NSCrip69]

1. Attack 14/17

2. Strive 14

3. Pivot

4. Marker Jester/Griffon

 

[Disvo]

If you have to wait until you get paid to be able to afford Pivots, probably not the best financial decision, sport.

Why you hatin on the workin man shlog I’m landscaping with a bunch of illegal Mexicans trya learn Spainish jus so I can buy some fucking rainbow binding that Make it look look like I have a dlildo hanging off the back off my skis this some old bullshit nscrip i just know your rich ass dad bought your whole fucking kit and pass

**This post was edited on Sep 16th 2024 at 9:22:41pm

**This post was edited on Sep 16th 2024 at 9:23:51pm

 

[Vzx]

Butthurt because you spent your entire monthly allowance on overpriced pivots? It’s ok sport, only 14 more days until you get your next allowance. You’ll be fine.

Dude you can get last years pivots for around 240 Cad it isn’t that overpriced.

 

[isaacwrong]

Just buy some new pivot brakes/base plates and seek out some old rossi 9s/9x, gs, slalom skis. Most have narrow brakes on them but can be found for cheap. Under $100

 

[GorillaMarketGMK]

As someone who switched from the fks to marker I would say no, but it’s totally preference.

 

[Wez]

Durability is a big one imo, plastic bindings don't tend to age as well.

I find the metal toes on the pivot 15s feel super lush on snow, very damp and solid feel compared to plastic bindings.

Closest runner up is a metal STH16, but they don't quite let the ski flex the same imo. It's all subtle but really adds up to making your skis feel Gucci.

Pivots are expensive comparatively, for a marginal upgrade, but that's like everything in life, towards the upper tiers of anything you get diminishing returns for your dollar. Doesn't stop me running them on my current 3 skis though and staying a die hard pivot fan.

 

[GorillaMarketGMK]

Durability is a big one imo, plastic bindings don't tend to age as well.

I find the metal toes on the pivot 15s feel super lush on snow, very damp and solid feel compared to plastic bindings.

Closest runner up is a metal STH16, but they don't quite let the ski flex the same imo. It's all subtle but really adds up to making your skis feel Gucci.

Pivots are expensive comparatively, for a marginal upgrade, but that's like everything in life, towards the upper tiers of anything you get diminishing returns for your dollar. Doesn't stop me running them on my current 3 skis though and staying a die hard pivot fan.

This is a solid point, I switched over to marker when they where still the heavy duty griffin’s I think, made with metal pieces before they changed to hard plastic

 

[NSCrip69]

Y’all are definitely not good enough at skiing to be worrying about durability ? ?

Just save yourself the money and get attacks lol. Half of the Us Olympic ski team isn’t using pivots because they’re overrated

 

[hi_vis360]

I find the metal toes on the pivot 15s feel super lush on snow, very damp and solid feel compared to plastic bindings.

This is such an accurate description it’s that pivot feel

Y’all are definitely not good enough at skiing to be worrying about durability ? ?

Just save yourself the money and get attacks lol. Half of the Us Olympic ski team isn’t using pivots because they’re overrated

Pro skiers get new gear every season so they can run stuff with the shittiest durability. It only has to last a couple months

 

[BallClapper]

Because they run what sponsors give them.

Just save yourself the money and get attacks lol. Half of the Us Olympic ski team isn’t using pivots because they’re overrated

 

[1spliff2guinnies]

I hate myself for somewhat agreeing with the first half of the statement, but for the majority of us, having different bindings would make marginal impacts to our overall skiing. Most of us would never impact the bindings hard enough for all metal to make a difference. The rest is cap though

Y’all are definitely not good enough at skiing to be worrying about durability ? ?

Just save yourself the money and get attacks lol. Half of the Us Olympic ski team isn’t using pivots because they’re overrated

This

Because they run what sponsors give them.

 

[PartyBullshiit]

I hate myself for somewhat agreeing with the first half of the statement, but for the majority of us, having different bindings would make marginal impacts to our overall skiing. Most of us would never impact the bindings hard enough for all metal to make a difference. The rest is cap though

This

It’s not about that though. It’s the fact that a metal pivot is going to last for YEARS to come. Look how many rossignol versions are still up for grabs 10+ years later that are still very usable. Not gonna happen with plastic bindings.

 

[SendyMcSendyface]

haha buttplug binding go brrrrrr

 

[Disvo]

haha buttplug binding go brrrrrr

shut up bruh you is not funny

 

[NSCrip69]

They’re not usable tho because shops won’t install them and modern boots won’t fit them.

It’s not about that though. It’s the fact that a metal pivot is going to last for YEARS to come. Look how many rossignol versions are still up for grabs 10+ years later that are still very usable. Not gonna happen with plastic bindings.

 

[Session]

They’re not usable tho because shops won’t install them and modern boots won’t fit them.

people mount their own skis.

 

[SendyMcSendyface]

shut up bruh you is not funny

sounds like a you problem

 

[PartyBullshiit]

They’re not usable tho because shops won’t install them and modern boots won’t fit them.

Yet plenty of people buy them, mount them and use them. So another L post from you again