Are all Liberty skis made in china?

Threads, because I'm not sure where the skis are made. We didn't find out when doing our big investigative piece on where skis are made.

I've been on next year's Origin 112 this spring and will have a review up sometime soon.
 
im fairly certain they source all their bamboo in china, so instead of shipping raw materials or just cores they manufacture the skis there. Probably saves a boatload of cash manufacturing them there as well.

Kind of opens up a question I've had for a while: Just because a ski is made in china does it make it poor quality? my inclination is not necessarily (I am a very not in the know person, just speculating). would need to see what the individual factory's standards are, although china definitely has a bad wrap in terms of factory conditions/standards
 
13911784:charlesmc said:
im fairly certain they source all their bamboo in china, so instead of shipping raw materials or just cores they manufacture the skis there. Probably saves a boatload of cash manufacturing them there as well.

Kind of opens up a question I've had for a while: Just because a ski is made in china does it make it poor quality? my inclination is not necessarily (I am a very not in the know person, just speculating). would need to see what the individual factory's standards are, although china definitely has a bad wrap in terms of factory conditions/standards
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Check out our article here for some more info on this topi:

https://www.newschoolers.com/news/read/Where-Skis-Whom
 
13911798:Sklar said:
Check out our article here for some more info on this topi:

https://www.newschoolers.com/news/read/Where-Skis-Whom
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read that before and again just now. Big ups on that article I actually put that graphic up in the shop I work at.

So according to that it boils down to "where a ski is produced does not necessarily equate to its quality or durability" and "There are no definitive answers to say that any one company’s process is better or worse than another."

In liberty's case, probably not a big deal they are built in china given the company's products have been well received, durable, and offered with a strong warranty. My experience on Liberty's at demo days has also been good so whatevs. Just my opinion though

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13911784:charlesmc said:
im fairly certain they source all their bamboo in china, so instead of shipping raw materials or just cores they manufacture the skis there. Probably saves a boatload of cash manufacturing them there as well.

Kind of opens up a question I've had for a while: Just because a ski is made in china does it make it poor quality? my inclination is not necessarily (I am a very not in the know person, just speculating). would need to see what the individual factory's standards are, although china definitely has a bad wrap in terms of factory conditions/standards
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It's all about QA and regulation enforcement. I have many reasons for my preference for North American and/or European products. I have no doubt that ultra high quality products can be manufactured in China but if there's significant cost savings for the company I'd like to see a piece of it. Liberty's msrp are like $750 and so are Moment's right?

I don't want to write an article about this, but I think I'll shop other brands unless a deal on Liberty Origin 106s pops up and can't be ignored like the $300 Origin 96 I linked above.
 
13911824:mystery3 said:
It's all about QA and regulation enforcement. I have many reasons for my preference for North American and/or European products. I have no doubt that ultra high quality products can be manufactured in China but if there's significant cost savings for the company I'd like to see a piece of it. Liberty's msrp are like $750 and so are Moment's right?

I don't want to write an article about this, but I think I'll shop other brands unless a deal on Liberty Origin 106s pops up and can't be ignored like the $300 Origin 96 I linked above.
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I feel you. As far as quality assurance that would vary company to company and factory to factory, so hypothetically the geographic location might not matter right? It's pretty common knowledge that manufacturing in china isn't regulated as thoroughly as it is in America and Europe, however, im sure different companies and factories have their own standards that they abide by independent of china's manufacturing laws, so its really all speculation to how substantial liberty's QA is. It'd be nice to know, and I guess not knowing is as good a reason as any to shop elsewhere

I also feel you in that north America and Europe have more regulation enforcement systemically that china. The comfort factor is definitely significant in that. So, I totally understand and share a bias toward north American and European manufactured products. Personally companies like Moment and ON3P strike a chord with me because they are so transparent about their manufacturing, I ride ON3P's for a reason. That being said, if K2 were to have the same transparency, all other reasons for liking on3p being negated, the fact they are made in china might not matter as much.

I don't own or have any stake in what liberty offers, I just think they make good shit and that for them "made in china" might not mean as much as it does for other brands or other products. nor am I an expert on manufacturing, just trying to learn more on this stuff. If I'm super wrong on any of this feel free to correct me.

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13911784:charlesmc said:
im fairly certain they source all their bamboo in china, so instead of shipping raw materials or just cores they manufacture the skis there. Probably saves a boatload of cash manufacturing them there as well.

Kind of opens up a question I've had for a while: Just because a ski is made in china does it make it poor quality? my inclination is not necessarily (I am a very not in the know person, just speculating). would need to see what the individual factory's standards are, although china definitely has a bad wrap in terms of factory conditions/standards
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Not at all. Manufacturing out of the USA or Europe saves cash for sure but does not mean low quality. Take K2 as an example. We still have our prototype factory in Seattle but all production is done in china. But we purpose built that factory. So its a USA factory in china. So basically making the same product cheaper. The engineers spend loads of time over there too so its not just a case of ship off and see.

Now this is not the case for all brands. Take revision. They just had a factory make the skis and we all know what happened there.

So china or anywhere else for that matter is not the factor, its how and who runs the factory that matters,
 
as far as I'm aware they are made in China. I remember they used to get a lot of shit on TGR for their phrase "Born in Colorado".

I ride the liberty transfers and I can honestly say the materials they used are top notch!
 
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