Arc'teryx

[abcdefu]

Arc'teryx seems to have become a pretty hype beast brand lately as far as streetwear goes and now we are seeing park skiers wear it all of the sudden when 6 years ago the general consensus would say its for soul 7 skiing dads. Coincidence??? I think Im seeing some sort of correlation between park skiers and hypebeasts and that is not core.

 

[TournevisRond]

Good for them if they can afford it.

 

[byubound]

Arc'teryx seems to have become a pretty hype beast brand lately as far as streetwear goes and now we are seeing park skiers wear it all of the sudden when 6 years ago the general consensus would say its for soul 7 skiing dads. Coincidence??? I think Im seeing some sort of correlation between park skiers and hypebeasts and that is not core.

ya idk what some of these words mean but the arcteryx clothing and equipment I own is brilliantly designed and built. Whether the value is there for the cost is questionable, but it is really, really good. Substantially better quality and design than stuff I own from TNF or Patagonia.

 

[abcdefu]

ya idk what some of these words mean but the arcteryx clothing and equipment I own is brilliantly designed and built. Whether the value is there for the cost is questionable, but it is really, really good. Substantially better quality and design than stuff I own from TNF or Patagonia.

TNF is a hype beast brand now. they do collaborations with gucci. arcteryx is basically right there with them they just did a collab with jil sanders a designer fashion brand.

 

[CabbyArrant]

I have a mountaineering shell from them but the only reason I bought it is I got a ridiculous discount when I worked for a dealer. Love their stuff but it costs too damn much and I hate how much of a status symbol it seems to have become.

 

[byubound]

TNF is a hype beast brand now. they do collaborations with gucci. arcteryx is basically right there with them they just did a collab with jil sanders a designer fashion brand.

I have a mountaineering shell from them but the only reason I bought it is I got a ridiculous discount when I worked for a dealer. Love their stuff but it costs too damn much and I hate how much of a status symbol it seems to have become.

Yall care too much about brand identity, wear stuff that works well and don't worry about the rest

 

[abcdefu]

Yall care too much about brand identity, wear stuff that works well and don't worry about the rest

I agree with your sentiment, wear what works. But arc is not holding true to their roots which I believe will be their demise. that's why TNF sucks now as well- they used to be much higher quality in the 90s. Brand identity plays a role in "what works." Idk, time will tell whether or not arcteryx follows suit and cares less about quality.

 

[r00kie]

My beef with Arc'teryx is they explicitly DON"T offer pro deal to raft guides. Guess they don't want their logo on river runners.

 

[CabbyArrant]

Yall care too much about brand identity, wear stuff that works well and don't worry about the rest

I mean I am all for wearing what works, but it pains me to see people priced out of products; especially the people who could appreciate them the most. Arcteryx makes some of the nicest technical clothing their is but its so expensive that its not accessible to many of the people who would appreciate it the most, and the people who can afford it aren't usually buying it because its functionally better for them. I just see no reason that their stuff should be so expensive, that's my issue with them.

 

[abcdefu]

My beef with Arc'teryx is they explicitly DON"T offer pro deal to raft guides. Guess they don't want their logo on river runners.

weird, you'd think with gore tex being a big part of their brand identity they'd hook you up.

 

[byubound]

I mean I am all for wearing what works, but it pains me to see people priced out of products; especially the people who could appreciate them the most. Arcteryx makes some of the nicest technical clothing their is but its so expensive that its not accessible to many of the people who would appreciate it the most, and the people who can afford it aren't usually buying it because its functionally better for them. I just see no reason that their stuff should be so expensive, that's my issue with them.

Do you think that arcteryx has some moral/ethical obligation to provide gear to people who like skiing or climbing or whatever more than others? I mean sure, I wish that I could buy all of my gear at cost but that isn't how the U.S. economy works. There are companies like OR that provide far better value for the price if that's a significant concern. The reason their stuff is so expensive is because they make more money that way, plain and simple. I guess I can see where you're coming from in not liking that, but to me that has zero bearing on my willingness to buy the product or not. Just like any other manufacturer if I feel like the features and quality are worth the price, I pay it. If they don't, I don't. I don't own a ton of arcteryx stuff because most of the time the cost-benefit is better with other brands.

 

[r00kie]

weird, you'd think with gore tex being a big part of their brand identity they'd hook you up.

I'm sure their stuff would make great river gear but it's 100% a brand image thing. They position themselves as a higher end product for a higher, more exclusive buyer and the raft guide persona doesn't match that so they won't make a deal. North Face can also be stingy with pro deal but not to the point of explicitly cutting out certain sectors, its just harder to get in general.

 

[WoFIowz]

Why do I think this brand and spyder are essentially the same thing? Or same clientele? Saw a chick in the lift line with one of these brands on with "US ski Team" on jacket and pants. I lol'd as I admired her Rossignol rental skis as she clearly is not a pro skier...

 

[CabbyArrant]

Do you think that arcteryx has some moral/ethical obligation to provide gear to people who like skiing or climbing or whatever more than others? I mean sure, I wish that I could buy all of my gear at cost but that isn't how the U.S. economy works. There are companies like OR that provide far better value for the price if that's a significant concern. The reason their stuff is so expensive is because they make more money that way, plain and simple. I guess I can see where you're coming from in not liking that, but to me that has zero bearing on my willingness to buy the product or not. Just like any other manufacturer if I feel like the features and quality are worth the price, I pay it. If they don't, I don't. I don't own a ton of arcteryx stuff because most of the time the cost-benefit is better with other brands.

I don't think they have any obligation to price their stuff cheaper but what's the point of making clothing for a specific purpose/activity that the isn't affordable to the people who will use it for its intended purpose. Like you said there's better value stuff out there and I love every OR piece I have owned. I guess I just don't get what they are trying to do if it's anything other than trying to gouge people.

 

[r00kie]

I don't think they have any obligation to price their stuff cheaper but what's the point of making clothing for a specific purpose/activity that the isn't affordable to the people who will use it for its intended purpose. Like you said there's better value stuff out there and I love every OR piece I have owned. I guess I just don't get what they are trying to do if it's anything other than trying to gouge people.

Its like a Cadillac. Underneath its the same as a Chevy but its marketed towards a more exclusive buyer who pays more for the brand attached to it. Arc'teryx isn't really that different from other brands like OR (which is amazing) but they aim for a different buyer so they develop their brand and price accordingly.

 

[byubound]

I don't think they have any obligation to price their stuff cheaper but what's the point of making clothing for a specific purpose/activity that the isn't affordable to the people who will use it for its intended purpose. Like you said there's better value stuff out there and I love every OR piece I have owned. I guess I just don't get what they are trying to do if it's anything other than trying to gouge people.

If by gouge people you mean sell their product for greater profit, then yes. Also, keep in mind that there are people who really enjoy outdoor recreation that aren't ski/climbing bums and they are more likely arcteryx's target market. I know lots of people who make really solid salaries as tech bros/dentists/engineers or whatever and like to climb or ski hard on the weekends and when they have time off. Some of them send too. Having a high income does not disqualify you from being passionate about the outdoors.

 

[WoFlowz]

I have some T shirts and my mom used to have a rain jacket from arcteryx. Amazing quality stuff even their kinda dry fit tees. Don’t even feel the seams on them. Super soft a breathable. My moms rain jacket lasted 14yesrs lol. Rly tempted to buy a shell from their outlet because of the quality and their repairs program

 

[Lonely]

686>arc'teryx

 

[ASSholebomber22]

Why do I think this brand and spyder are essentially the same thing? Or same clientele? Saw a chick in the lift line with one of these brands on with "US ski Team" on jacket and pants. I lol'd as I admired her Rossignol rental skis as she clearly is not a pro skier...

I rarely see spyder anymore, if It's obvious it's usually some ancient old ex race kook in 20+ year old gear

 

[powpatrol]

wear what the fuck you want to no one really cares

 

[abcdefu]

I rarely see spyder anymore, if It's obvious it's usually some ancient old ex race kook in 20+ year old gear

Spyder makes cool Spyder web beanies. or at least they did a couple years ago bc I own one. ya I think they've always been a race orientated brand. but they were sponsoring quinn wolferman and Ferdinand Dahl and other park skiers I think recently

 

[abcdefu]

Its like a Cadillac. Underneath its the same as a Chevy but its marketed towards a more exclusive buyer who pays more for the brand attached to it. Arc'teryx isn't really that different from other brands like OR (which is amazing) but they aim for a different buyer so they develop their brand and price accordingly.

its definitely true now that I think about it, you see a lot of yuppies who deck themselves out in arcy for their one week a year ski trip.

I guess I had a picture in my head that arcy was a little more core because they sponsored Hoji and I remember finding out about arcy when I was kid because of that so naturally I thought it was a sick brand

 

[arnie_grape]

My beef with Arc'teryx is they explicitly DON"T offer pro deal to raft guides. Guess they don't want their logo on river runners.

I wouldn't want my brand associated with damp river people either you probably have wrinkly toes yuck

 

[WoFIowz]

I rarely see spyder anymore, if It's obvious it's usually some ancient old ex race kook in 20+ year old gear

It was this with matching pants.

https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m95943185305/?gclsrc=aw.ds&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=12877497088&utm_content=t0&adgroup=121903074456&network=g&device=m&merchant_id=144743352&product_id=m95943185305&product_id=528394862769&gclid=Cj0KCQiAip-PBhDVARIsAPP2xc3ypsDRQIbd7F1yrOBmn0Hd9R3vCvYSwbZgQDMBVhBwgn2ad529ZQwaAvbqEALw_wcB

 

[freestyler540]

Im decked out in Arc’teryx gear. The quality is truly superior to any other brands. I swear by them. Ive endured some wild weather, without arcteryx, I would have quit early.

They are a sustainable company too. Fair trade, eco friendly production and producing quality gear is a motto I would invest in. Plus their warranty policy is amazing

 

[milotv34]

Spyder makes cool Spyder web beanies. or at least they did a couple years ago bc I own one. ya I think they've always been a race orientated brand. but they were sponsoring quinn wolferman and Ferdinand Dahl and other park skiers I think recently

quinn and ferdie were both wearing spyder in the original ferdi v quin slvsh game too.

 

[HaydenB]

without arcteryx, I would have quit early.

I was hoping for the classic, "without arcteryx, I wouldnt be talking to you now"

 

[abcdefu]

Im decked out in Arc’teryx gear. The quality is truly superior to any other brands. I swear by them. Ive endured some wild weather, without arcteryx, I would have quit early.

They are a sustainable company too. Fair trade, eco friendly production and producing quality gear is a motto I would invest in. Plus their warranty policy is amazing

tbh this sounded ironic at first. Also, in all fairness, no company that mass produces product is really that sustainable. They certainly portray the sustainable image (and its part of their marketing program ~which has worked on you~), and im sure they try to an extent, but at the end of the day they are definitely focused on profit over sustainability

**This post was edited on Jan 20th 2022 at 10:43:05am

 

[deathcookie]

Im decked out in Arc’teryx gear. The quality is truly superior to any other brands. I swear by them. Ive endured some wild weather, without arcteryx, I would have quit early.

They are a sustainable company too. Fair trade, eco friendly production and producing quality gear is a motto I would invest in. Plus their warranty policy is amazing

Arc'eryx is owned by ANTA. ANTA's companies use cotton that come from the Xinjiang internment camps (Uyghurs). By supporting Arc'teryx, you are supporting one of the least sustainable companies on earth that earns money from concentration camps.

 

[abcdefu]

Arc'eryx is owned by ANTA. ANTA's companies use cotton that come from the Xinjiang internment camps (Uyghurs). By supporting Arc'teryx, you are supporting one of the least sustainable companies on earth that earns money from concentration camps.

yeah, comes as no surprise. personally I only buy used everything (aside from food and skis basically) just because that's what I believe in. But I also believe that we've already fucked the earth and humanity and we obviously aren't going to change our ways. I think in our lifetime we will see catastrophic environmental events we can't even imagine right now. because apathy is our ruling class and basically nobody is willing to sacrifice their comfort to do the right thing. I don't blame or judge anyone to being consumerist or buying from nefarious companies though- it makes sense people do. its convenient, easy, and we are pressured to.

 

[byubound]

Arc'eryx is owned by ANTA. ANTA's companies use cotton that come from the Xinjiang internment camps (Uyghurs). By supporting Arc'teryx, you are supporting one of the least sustainable companies on earth that earns money from concentration camps.

Not to sound callous to the issues at hand, but this seems like a pretty weak relationship and I think you would be hard pressed to find a brand today that isn't at least tangentially tied to some morally objectionable practices.

Excess consumerism and disposable goods are also a huge problem in society, and every Arc'teryx product I own has lasted years of hard use. How much durability should I sacrifice and therefore increase my ecological footprint to stop supporting this brand?

 

[deathcookie]

Not to sound callous to the issues at hand, but this seems like a pretty weak relationship and I think you would be hard pressed to find a brand today that isn't at least tangentially tied to some morally objectionable practices.

Excess consumerism and disposable goods are also a huge problem in society, and every Arc'teryx product I own has lasted years of hard use. How much durability should I sacrifice and therefore increase my ecological footprint to stop supporting this brand?

This isn't just a tangential relationship. The owners of Arc'teryx suspended its contracts with the NBA when players spoke up against the protests in Hong Kong. They quit the Better Cotton Initiative so that they could keep on sourcing cotton from their concentration camps. One of its main cotton suppliers has been blacklisted from the United States. American companies like Nike and H&M have announced that they wouldn't use Xianjiang cotton, and have since been boycotted in China.

Other companies make gear that is just as good, and will last just as long, as Arc'teryx stuff. They all probably have some sort of baggage regarding sourcing, but at least when you purchase products from companies owned by Americans, you aren't directly supporting Chinese companies that are basically part of the CCP.

Arc'teryx is also super expensive, and I have seen many examples of Arc'teryx gear falling apart. It may have been worth it when the gear was made in Canada, but now that its made in China, things are different.

 

[GrandThings]

I hate the narrative that Arc'teryx "decided" to become a hype-beast brand. It's just a (perceived) cool brand that got recognized by a few key people in the fashion industry (specifically Virgil Abloh) and therefore blew up in popularity. Fashion stealing from action-sports has been going on forever. (Supreme is the obvious example here, and literally the EXACT same pattern happened with Palace to the point where one of their riders now even has a shoe on LV, which I think is dope.)

You notice a hypebeasts starting to wear more Dickies, Carhartt and other work-wear a lot more lately? Same damn shit. Hell, Nike dunks used to be cheap as fuck and were a go to skate-shoe and you can't even find a basic pair for retail anymore.

I'm just hoping Arsenic gets recognized some day and Dan makes a huge stack of cash.

 

[twerkphone64]

the water just beads off

 

[MiIfHunter]

90 percent of my wardrobe is arc teryx. I’m an OG motherfucker. Been buying their shot since 2011

 

[Casey]

When I was growing up if you saw someone with a TNF jacket people would comment. It was basically worn by ski patrol and a handful of bad MFs.

Ive always viewed arcTeryx kind of like I used to look at North Face, which now sells all kinds of low end shit at department stores. Idk maybe someone was finally like Hey ArcTeryx! No one can afford your shit!!!!

Although fuck if you pay 200 dollars to ski and park for the day who gives a shit what a coat costs.

 

[abcdefu]

90 percent of my wardrobe is arc teryx. I’m an OG motherfucker. Been buying their shot since 2011

Okay this is fucking sick

 

[abcdefu]

I have some T shirts and my mom used to have a rain jacket from arcteryx. Amazing quality stuff even their kinda dry fit tees. Don’t even feel the seams on them. Super soft a breathable. My moms rain jacket lasted 14yesrs lol. Rly tempted to buy a shell from their outlet because of the quality and their repairs program

Is there repairs program good? I hear people complain about it and say it doesnt compare to outdoor research. Id never pay $600 but i see arcteryx shells pop up at outdoor thrift stores but theyre still usually like $250

 

[abcdefu]

I hate the narrative that Arc'teryx "decided" to become a hype-beast brand. It's just a (perceived) cool brand that got recognized by a few key people in the fashion industry (specifically Virgil Abloh) and therefore blew up in popularity. Fashion stealing from action-sports has been going on forever. (Supreme is the obvious example here, and literally the EXACT same pattern happened with Palace to the point where one of their riders now even has a shoe on LV, which I think is dope.)

You notice a hypebeasts starting to wear more Dickies, Carhartt and other work-wear a lot more lately? Same damn shit. Hell, Nike dunks used to be cheap as fuck and were a go to skate-shoe and you can't even find a basic pair for retail anymore.

I'm just hoping Arsenic gets recognized some day and Dan makes a huge stack of cash.

Dunk thing is crazy. I bought a pair like five years ago and beat them up. I thought they were sick shoes so i wanted to get another pair a couple years ago. Turns out they were asking $600 and i was like wtf??? Well i just looked them up again and theyre at $4500 in my size on GOAT. Wish i knew that before wearing mine...

 

[WoFlowz]

Is there repairs program good? I hear people complain about it and say it doesnt compare to outdoor research. Id never pay $600 but i see arcteryx shells pop up at outdoor thrift stores but theyre still usually like $250

Yeah it wasn’t super repaired able had a huge rip. Plus I’d say she got her money out of it since it lasted that long

 

[Angioedema]

Arc'teryx seems to have become a pretty hype beast brand lately as far as streetwear goes and now we are seeing park skiers wear it all of the sudden when 6 years ago the general consensus would say its for soul 7 skiing dads. Coincidence??? I think Im seeing some sort of correlation between park skiers and hypebeasts and that is not core.

I've got a kit, but i only ride it at home mountain (theres no park, lots of storm skiing and backcountry). I also dont want to rip it and usually wear value village type stuff at the park (99% of time skiing there).

Should you buy arcteryx?

>Do you ski during storms lots (wind, rain) -> yes -> Buy it, it is worth

>Did you mostly ride park?-> yes -> Don't buy it, too expensive to rip and is not steezy or core imo

 

[drifts]

Seeing people in a full head to toe arcteryx kit is just as bad as a montec/dope kit.

also arcteryx is doing a lot of marketing to freestyle/freeride and young people and fashion because they dont want to be known only as boomer wear

I dont really like wearing the arcteryx shit I have unless I can hide the logos

**This post was edited on Jan 21st 2022 at 4:01:14pm

 

[byubound]

Seeing people in a full head to toe arcteryx kit is just as bad as a montec/dope kit.

also arcteryx is doing a lot of marketing to freestyle/freeride and young people and fashion because they dont want to be known only as boomer wear

I dont really like wearing the arcteryx shit I have unless I can hide the logos

**This post was edited on Jan 21st 2022 at 4:01:14pm

lmao, is your 'core' status so fragile that people seeing the arcteryx logo on you will hurt it?

 

[GrandThings]

Seeing people in a full head to toe arcteryx kit is just as bad as a montec/dope kit.

**This post was edited on Jan 21st 2022 at 4:01:14pm

Yeah I feel like the difference tho is that some dudes that rock Arteryx DO actually rip, whereas I've never really seen someone throwing down in Montec.

 

[drifts]

lmao, is your 'core' status so fragile that people seeing the arcteryx logo on you will hurt it?

yes.

 

[drifts]

Yeah I feel like the difference tho is that some dudes that rock Arteryx DO actually rip, whereas I've never really seen someone throwing down in Montec.

yeah they sponsor some cool dudes. The money flaunting types around me just really like arcteryx and it makes me feel awkward wearing it

 

[abcdefu]

I've got a kit, but i only ride it at home mountain (theres no park, lots of storm skiing and backcountry). I also dont want to rip it and usually wear value village type stuff at the park (99% of time skiing there).

Should you buy arcteryx?

>Do you ski during storms lots (wind, rain) -> yes -> Buy it, it is worth

>Did you mostly ride park?-> yes -> Don't buy it, too expensive to rip and is not steezy or core imo

I feel like good rule of thumb with ski equipment is dont buy sometjing you cant afford to use bc your scared of breaking

 

[Angioedema]

I feel like good rule of thumb with ski equipment is dont buy sometjing you cant afford to use bc your scared of breaking

I can’t afford it but luckily I had a prodeal on the stuff a few years back and bought a bunch

 

[PacificRimJob]

I'm kitted out in Arcteryx simply because they had a pretty beast pro-deal, and I was also given a free shell back in the day. I'm also kitted out in Black Diamond stuff for the same reasons.

Yes, deadbird gear is technical as shit, well made, and it is no doubt really good, but other companies also make phenomenal gear for usually a bit less because that logo costs a premium.

For example, my Black Diamond shell & down hoodie are potentially superior to my Arcteryx stuff - if not absolutely on-par. My Patagonia touring hoodie is the best item I own of all of them, and my OR synthetic hoodie could easily have a deadbird logo on it and sell for 3 times as much as I got it for.

My Black Diamond Helio shell stacks up absolutely no problem with either of my Arcteryx Shells - my Sphene and my Sabre shells retail for wayyy more than my BD shell ever did.

 

[TRVP_ANGEL]

Pretty sure Gilson skis manufactures for the arcteryx brand so im not surprised that park skiers are wearing it.

 

[BearsOnKetamine]

I mean I wear my dads xxl ski pants dad clothes become popular like dad shoes straight cut pants now arcy