all you kids have obviously never skied or even flexed the AR6, they're too soft to be a legitimate all mountain ski, which is a big let down because the previous years AR5 was a great ski with a nice medium flex, hopefully they siffen it up next year, and the dumonts seem like they'll be pretty good, i was hearing about them being super stiff, but it seems like the meaning of stiff is lost these day as they were pretty in the middle as far as flex goes, but they should be pretty solid all mountain.