Apple Fanboys, get ready to cream your pants

HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE.

seriously tho im so amped up about this.

and if anyone cares, heres a mini-report i just wrote for my investment group, i would be curious to hear others oppinions tho. THREADJACK

"i dunno where im supposed to put these so im putting it here. Elliot

recommended that i put together a blurb/analysis about whats up with

Apple since ive been rambling on about it in the room while he turns

up the CNBC volume in hopes that ill shut up. Anyways, heres whats

running through my mind.

first off, todays profit call - Apple noted that they saw a better

commodity market than anticipated and were able to leverage fixed

costs with decreased freight and dutys costs. This lead to a higher

than predicted gross profit margin. That being said, new accounting

rules for the December quarter likely contributed to the increase, as

for the first time Apple is accounting for Iphone sales at the time of

sale, rather than over the estimated life (subscription accounting).

It will be interesting to see what AAPL does on Tuesday. Normally the

market would do cartwheels over a call like this (profits of $3.67 per

share, compared to a general consensus prediction of $2.07), however

everyones going nuts after hours trying to account for the changes in

accounting (no pun intended).

However, Ram Select doesnt really care about this. However, I am very

interested in the future.

Now on to the product everyone's going nuts over: the Apple tablet

(iSlate or iPad, according to recent apple domain name purchases).

Straight from the man who released the portable music player that

redefined the entire music industry, the OS that takes more of

Microsoft's market share every day, and the phone that defined the 3G

network, comes the bold statement, "This is the most important thing

I've ever done." This market hype is something that we at Ram Select

must look into. If you haven't heard, the iSlate is supposed to be

released Wednesday. Heres the major things floating through my head:

- Cyclical Market - Apple seems to have a pretty general cycle with a

product. HYPEHYPEHYPE, then product release, then slight market

dissapointment, but still massive sales based on hype and innovation,

then Apple perfection for a second gen product, then complete market

takeover (see iPod, macbook, iPhone for precedent). If we can look

into how the stock price has followed this cylce, we can find the

ideal time to buy into the tablet's cycle.

- Supply Chain - Apple, for obvious reasons, has not released who is

manufacturing what for the tablet. Some say Quanta, some say Foxconn,

some say in house. Displays will likely be LG or Wintek. Battery will

likely be from Dynapack. Intel claims that they are producing chips

for "a bigger version of the iPhone," but most analysts believe the

chips will be produced in-house (for the first time ever), through PA

Semi, a company Apple purchased a while ago. Further down the supply

chain, it would be interesting to see where PA semi gets supplies. AVY

Precision Technology will be producing aluminum cases for the tablet

come February.

- Mobile - Apple is said to be in talks with AT&T and Verizon for

(exclusive?) contracts with this tablet. Likely these contracts would

subsidize the otherwise high cost($800?) with a mobile contract. One

analyst claims he is certain Verizon is taking it. AT&T exploded with

the iphone, need i say more?

- It's rumored that NY times is developing for this thing, along with

Conde Nast, Harper Collins, and EA games. The tablet is likely to

redefine the book, magazine, movie, and portable gaming markets.

They're even going after college textbooks. Apple apparently has put

together an offer to publishers (to compete with ebook pricing from

Amazon) that is developed to help the publishers and in turn help

authors. As a student, I just hope it means a cool, cheap way to get

textbooks. That being said, will this tech kill the Kindle? Probably

not immediately, given far different price points and technologies.

However, we should keep an eye on AMZN, as Apple is known to downright

perfect a technology and completely takeover a market (look at retail

CD sales now that the iPhone is what it is).

If youre genuinely interested, take the time to check out AAPL analyst

reports on investex. Basically everyones saying BUY BUY BUY. That

isn't what i'm saying though.

Right now, AAPL is likely way overbought with all the hype, which will

probably combine with this recent profits call. Personally, I'd like

to look into the product cycle vs stock price and see if we can get in

in time for Apple takeover (of the magazine, book, movie industry--or

the world?).

any commentary is greatly appreciated.

and, if anyone really cares, AAPL is in the portfolios of Steve Mandel

of Lone Pine Capital, Stanley Druckenmiller of Duquesne Capital

Management, LLC, John Griffin of Blue Ridge Capital, Chris Shumway of

Shumway Capital Partners LLC, Lee Ainslie of Maverick Capital, Ken

Heebner of CAPITAL GROWTH MANAGEMENT LP, Daniel Loeb of Third Point,

LLC, Chase Coleman of TIGER GLOBAL MANAGEMENT LLC, Bill Nygren of Oak

Mark Fund, Bruce Kovner of Caxton Associates, Jeremy Grantham of GMO

LLC, John Buckingham of Al Frank Asset Management, Inc., Ron Baron of

Baron Funds, George Soros of Soros Fund Management LLC, Kenneth Fisher

of Fisher Asset Management, LLC, PRIMECAP Management, Bill Frels of

MAIRS & POWER INC, Ruane Cunniff of Ruane & Cunniff & Goldfarb Inc. "

 
sorry too lazy to read it all....
but question...aapl is at about 213$ per share right now....I'm guessing they're gonna climb about 15-20$ today, and by march be at 255$?? when they release the tablet to the public
but do you think they'll split before they reach the 250 range?
they've split twice in the past I believe
 
dont be shy read it all!

and i would not be suprised at all to see a split, and actually im praying they do split.
 
I'd not want a split to be honest.

As for the tablet, I can't wait, hopefully the rumors of it being around $400-600 are true, especially if it plans to compete with the other e-readers out currently.

Hopefully we hear about the new iPhone tech and hopefully they announce a "lite" iPhone for the verizon network.

Either way shit's gonna be epic and they will def be upping the game again in the mobile markets.

Actually more excited about HP's Slate, Tablet running windows 7 desktop (extremely impressive piece of hardware so far, lack of a community like the apps store to back it though.
 
ok read most of it...in house chips(processors?) not sure about that...I've been hearing the new intel chip will likely be used
I think it's important to look at third parties in this one, like the iphone, so many third party companies shares exploded when the app store came out, a lot of these were penny-stock software companies...I also think it's important to be cautious with magazine and newspaper companies because they will likely keep losing money until they've limited print production substantially, maybe it will take about 2 years for everyone to start buying tablets, and then we'll see a huge increase in digital reading
 
general consensus is 800 to 1000 unless mobile plans (att, verizon) can subsidize it. thats when youll see a 400$ price tag.
 
nah, i wanna see share price come down cuz our fund has very little capital, its our first year and were all college sophomores/juniors. hard to convince your team to invest in an expensive stock with no moneiz to do so.
 
if i did the math right, hes made $36,589,224,320.00 to date. sick claim.

seriously tho, good on him if hes held on to alot of it haha
 
fuck they better release the tablet and it better be the greatest thing since sliced bread. honestly, i check engadget everyday, along with other techy sites, and all i have been hearing for the past several months is iSlate, iTablet, apple tablet, blah blah. i cannot wait til is over and done with. there are so many tablets already out, its not like apple is creating something new. although there were other phones out before the iphone, so i guess it's just natural for all this hype.
 
yeah but all other tablets blow, the touch technology isnt there. apple, however, has perfected touchscreen technology and patented it.
 
apple most definitely has not perfected the touchscreen. just because they were among the first to use capacitive screens, doesn't mean they perfected it.use any other modern tc phone and you'll be pleasantly surprised.

look at the microsoft surface, it's older, just like original iphone, but still kills it.
 
hah, i've been watching liveblogs.

hm, well it's not as interesting as i had expected.

I really don't like the design of the physical device itself.

I don't expect it to sell like fire, but being apple, it probably will.

 
Yea, im sorry, but this thing looks retarded. It's too big to be really portable, and too small to get any real computing done on it.

I'd way rather have a normal laptop and iPhone/Android

And the HP Slate looks alot better.
 
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i guess its cool but i really dont see the point of it if you already have a macbook and iphone.

i dont even have an iphone but i would rather have and iphone than this thing.
 
I really dont see a point for this whole i-pad thing. It pretty much just does the exact same thing as the iphone, but its a little bit faster and has a larger screen. Or did I miss something?
 
this is just apple's way to enter the netbook market. I don't want a touch screen netbook that runs on phone software. I am for the first time ever disapointed with apple, also they couldn't keep it a secret at all this time for some reason
 
OMG HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE

I'm creamin due to the hype...

not,,, suckas. I give apple one thing, they have one hell of a base that will shit themselves over anything new, and they were able to create so much hype (with the help of their fanboys and shit) over so little.

FUck apple, and fuck steve jobs
 
it does so much more then the iphone could.

This announcement just opened new doors for the games industry as well. Everyone here is shitting themselves right now haha.

 
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I have found a use for it!

You could be using it in a chair, when you are hungry, you turn it over and instant dinner tray!
 
so im confused?

how much will macbooks be?

whats this even about? ive read the entire thread, even the long first post.

fml

i bought a sony laptop off sony.com last week, should I have waited for a mac? even though i hate macs?

happy tuesday!~!!
 
what are these things that it can do so much better then the iphone? besides applications and what not. Can you play pc games or something on it ?
 
regardless of what u guys think, depending on price-point, they just completely decimated the e-reader market with the amount of publishers on board, including ny-times app with inline video, + iBookStore.
screen is epic too
 
so too big to carry in your pocket and too awkward and underpowered to use a computer???

This would be tight if it could "fold up" to something near the size of an iphone. seams pretty possible with the way the oled screens are now.

I just don't see a situation when I would use this...
 
first and foremost i must say, i think the Ipad looks amazing. it's wicked cool, and the technology is apps and everything are and brilliant. however, i'm not totally convinced this will sell very well, or at least as well as they hope. tablet computers have been done before, and have never been really successful. at the same time, if this works out for them, kindle/amazon are fucked and apple will become a meca for all things entertainment.
 
canadian. very canadian.

my big question is, how is the sizing of this thing gonna work?

- its too big to hold in one had

- its too small to rest both hands/ wrists on it and type like on a laptop like i am now

- its too big to go in your pocket

- its too small/thin to justify a backpack or bag

imagine sitting and typing on this thing

it looks like you'll get carpal tunnel in a week from holding your wrists up

idk...
 
I have a tablet. It's made by Dell, and much better than that. Granted, it was much more expensive.

I can't imagine typing a report or anything like that on what is essentially a large iPhone. You can't run your hands over the keys like a real keyboard.

In my personal opinion, Apple is going to have to rely on brand loyalty to sell this. People won't be switching to these any time soon (you watch, in 1 year someone will bump this and I'll be eating my words)
 
hahahaha when I saw the list of possible name I thought there was no way they would be stupid enough to call it the iPad
 
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