good info above...they're stiff, a little on the heavy side, but real nice shape...ive got the 181's and i mounted em almost center, but i think im gonna move em back closer to suggested. havent really skied em in much pow, but they destroy the crudy shit we get around here (michigan that is). the biggest thing ive noticed is that being such a big stiff ski they make my park skis feel super light and easy to throw around, kinda like using those weight things for your bat in baseball. id say give em a shot, they tend to be a little on the cheaper side than most other brands if you can find them, which isnt super easy, but they are there fo sho.