Any info on ON3P 19/20 Skis

14000116:Slunky said:
Not graphics but supposedly new shapes
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New shape is the Woodsman, a Kartel/Wren hybrid (sort of). Think progressive mount Wren with a bit more tail rocker, longer edge than the Kartel. Also, metal Wrens for 2020. Don't know if there's any changes to the existing line.
 
14000131:-eREKTion- said:
New shape is the Woodsman, a Kartel/Wren hybrid (sort of). Think progressive mount Wren with a bit more tail rocker, longer edge than the Kartel. Also, metal Wrens for 2020. Don't know if there's any changes to the existing line.
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So sorta like a twin wren? Like a chargey kartel
 
FWIW guy on TGR gear rumor thread who tested the Woodsman said it skis like a more fun and versatile k2 Mindbender 108.

**This post was edited on Feb 16th 2019 at 12:42:05am
 
14000131:-eREKTion- said:
New shape is the Woodsman, a Kartel/Wren hybrid (sort of). Think progressive mount Wren with a bit more tail rocker, longer edge than the Kartel. Also, metal Wrens for 2020. Don't know if there's any changes to the existing line.
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190+ length hopefully?
 
14000131:-eREKTion- said:
New shape is the Woodsman, a Kartel/Wren hybrid (sort of). Think progressive mount Wren with a bit more tail rocker, longer edge than the Kartel. Also, metal Wrens for 2020. Don't know if there's any changes to the existing line.
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This must’ve been what rudygarmish was referring to in my thread comparing the kartels to other skis, very interested to hear more about these, and also to see what’s replacing the kartel if it’s more than just a name change.

Was on3p not at the trade shows this year? Interesting that they’re keeping kinda quiet compared to past years
 
14000632:Chubz. said:
This must’ve been what rudygarmish was referring to in my thread comparing the kartels to other skis, very interested to hear more about these, and also to see what’s replacing the kartel if it’s more than just a name change.

Was on3p not at the trade shows this year? Interesting that they’re keeping kinda quiet compared to past years
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On3p runs on their own release schedule and doesn’t do the trade shows.

Also id be surprised if they change the kartel itself given its such a bomb ski but idk I wouldn’t be surprised to see a name change
 
14000701:Slunky said:
On3p runs on their own release schedule and doesn’t do the trade shows.

Also id be surprised if they change the kartel itself given its such a bomb ski but idk I wouldn’t be surprised to see a name change
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They used to be at sia every year that’s why I asked.
 
14000701:Slunky said:
On3p runs on their own release schedule and doesn’t do the trade shows.

Also id be surprised if they change the kartel itself given its such a bomb ski but idk I wouldn’t be surprised to see a name change
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Scott has confirmed there will be a name change.

I think I remember hearing rumors of a prototype swallowtail, I wonder if that has made it through.
 
14000131:-eREKTion- said:
New shape is the Woodsman, a Kartel/Wren hybrid (sort of). Think progressive mount Wren with a bit more tail rocker, longer edge than the Kartel. Also, metal Wrens for 2020. Don't know if there's any changes to the existing line.
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damn imma buy this in a heartbeat
 
14000754:CLQ said:
Scott has confirmed there will be a name change.

I think I remember hearing rumors of a prototype swallowtail, I wonder if that has made it through.
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Yeah woodsman+st lucas are in the works, but I’d be very interested to see a swallowtail
 
14000579:-eREKTion- said:
Scott confirmed 192.
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Yep.

14000701:Slunky said:
On3p runs on their own release schedule and doesn’t do the trade shows.

Also id be surprised if they change the kartel itself given its such a bomb ski but idk I wouldn’t be surprised to see a name change
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We stopped doing SIA/OR a couple years ago when we stopped taking on new dealers. The show is not worth the huge price tag for us. And I think it is crazy to release new skis when there are months of sales season left. No big details out until April.

Kartel name changes, but we're sticking with our product development schedule which has the next ski line update, design wise, coming 2021.

14000754:CLQ said:
Scott has confirmed there will be a name change.

I think I remember hearing rumors of a prototype swallowtail, I wonder if that has made it through.
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No swallowtail.
 
Really looking forward to the woodsman.

The K108 is my favorite ski right now, think a woodsman 96 would be great to complement.
 
14000388:AltaBuse said:
FWIW guy on TGR gear rumor thread who tested the Woodsman said it skis like a more fun and versatile k2 Mindbender 108.

**This post was edited on Feb 16th 2019 at 12:42:05am
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Does this mean less chargey/capable at speed?
 
14022406:Lukewt said:
Does this mean less chargey/capable at speed?
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Haven't skied the Mindbender, but I skied the Woodsman 108 @187 a few days ago at Alta demo day.... It skis like a more playful/intuitive/easy-to-turn Wrenegade, definitely more chargy than my 191 Kartels. TBH, I loved it.

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14022474:AltaBuse said:
Haven't skied the Mindbender, but I skied the Woodsman 108 @187 a few days ago at Alta demo day.... It skis like a more playful/intuitive/easy-to-turn Wrenegade, definitely more chargy than my 191 Kartels. TBH, I loved it.

**This post was edited on Apr 9th 2019 at 2:58:06pm
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What was the flex pattern like?

I have a ton of questions about this ski cause I'm looking for a charger that I can let run and be stable, but still be able to be playful when I want to. I'm really interested in the mindbenders, but the mount/build is a little traditional for me. I have a pair of k116s for my powder skis and I love them, so naturally when I heard about a new on3p ski that was more directional that the Kartels, but not as "one dimensional" (for lack of a better term) than the wrens my interest was peaked. I really am just hoping they would be able to handle a big guy (6'3", 210) pushing them hard every now and then without a lot of loss in stability.
 
14022522:Lukewt said:
What was the flex pattern like?

I have a ton of questions about this ski cause I'm looking for a charger that I can let run and be stable, but still be able to be playful when I want to. I'm really interested in the mindbenders, but the mount/build is a little traditional for me. I have a pair of k116s for my powder skis and I love them, so naturally when I heard about a new on3p ski that was more directional that the Kartels, but not as "one dimensional" (for lack of a better term) than the wrens my interest was peaked. I really am just hoping they would be able to handle a big guy (6'3", 210) pushing them hard every now and then without a lot of loss in stability.
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Flex and stability is closer to the Wren than the Kartel, 10 underfoot, reaching 7.5-8 as it went out to the tips and tails... felt very balanced on the snow while having a bit more pop/rebound than the Wren. The shape had more sidecut and less effective edge than the Wren which made it more nimble and pivotable in tight spots... I think it would fit what you're describing pretty well, I'm 6'4 240lbs and the 187 held it own at pretty high speeds while being more fun, accessible, and versatile. I think bumping up to the 192 would make for one hell of a playful charger...

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14022546:AltaOmega said:
Flex and stability is closer to the Wren than the Kartel, 10 underfoot, reaching 7.5-8 as it went out to the tips and tails... felt very balanced on the snow while having a bit more pop/rebound than the Wren. The shape had more sidecut and less effective edge than the Wren which made it more nimble and pivotable in tight spots... I think it would fit what you're describing pretty well, I'm 6'4 240lbs and the 187 held it own at pretty high speeds while being more fun, accessible, and versatile. I think bumping up to the 192 would make for one hell of a playful charger...

**This post was edited on Apr 9th 2019 at 6:09:08pm
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This is great news for me as well - very excited for this ski. I hope the radius on the 192 is ~20 or even sub-20m (in an ~85mm width). would literally be the ski I've been dreaming of for years.

**This post was edited on Apr 17th 2019 at 1:51:58am
 
What are the black and yellow skis hackle and Meeks have been riding?

Is the Jeffery replacing the kartel or is that where the woodman comes in?

So many questions!!! I mentioned in another thread how I thought this years graphics looked kinda bland but I take that back, great as always. ?

So torn between a magnus 102 and Jeffery/woodman 108 for all mountain jibbing/ripping.

Probably gonna pick up a pair of 116 sticks as well for powdays out west next year.
 
14025684:Chubz. said:
What are the black and yellow skis hackle and Meeks have been riding?

Is the Jeffery replacing the kartel or is that where the woodman comes in?

So many questions!!! I mentioned in another thread how I thought this years graphics looked kinda bland but I take that back, great as always. ?

So torn between a magnus 102 and Jeffery/woodman 108 for all mountain jibbing/ripping.

Probably gonna pick up a pair of 116 sticks as well for powdays out west next year.
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The black an yellow is a custom topsheet, and I'm pretty sure the Jeffrey is a renamed Kartel
 
14025684:Chubz. said:
What are the black and yellow skis hackle and Meeks have been riding?

Is the Jeffery replacing the kartel or is that where the woodman comes in?

So many questions!!! I mentioned in another thread how I thought this years graphics looked kinda bland but I take that back, great as always. ?

So torn between a magnus 102 and Jeffery/woodman 108 for all mountain jibbing/ripping.

Probably gonna pick up a pair of 116 sticks as well for powdays out west next year.
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As mentioned Jeffrey is replacing the Kartel (same ski, different name). Think I’m gonna pick up pair of the Jeffrey 98s...seem like the perfect do it all ski for Brighton!
 
14025703:Crispy. said:
As mentioned Jeffrey is replacing the Kartel (same ski, different name). Think I’m gonna pick up pair of the Jeffrey 98s...seem like the perfect do it all ski for Brighton!
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The Jeffery 98 is the best graphic imo this year
 
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