dude if you have a good background in racing or moguls and high confidence level and your using your skis only for pow then the Ants area good choice. I have skiied my pair twice now and I they skiied great everywhere. I did not take them in the park. but for anything else. groomers, crud, chopped pow, pow they skied great. fucken fast and if you dont like a stiff ski then dont get em. they hold an edge well and absolutley no chattering. turning isnt what these skis are really ment for. but they are extremely stable at sonic speeds. i dunno, kinda seems like a ski someone from a raceing background would like.