you know...you can throw a spin without looking like a tool, even if you dont carve....i'm sure my skis turn a bit when i leave the take off, but i dont do a big gay snowboarder turn up the inrun, leaving a huge ass rut, followed by plowing the landing leaving another huge ass rut...i leave clean, and stick clean....and i'm stylie in the air (unless you call the most tweaked out mute/huntony/japan you've ever seen to be 'arms out like an airplane')