An Inconvienient truth...

aoe

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an amazing documentry. very will put together and really eye opening. Al gore is brilliant. Who else has seen it?
 
I want to see it, really bad.

But i did see a cartoon in the Ottawa citizen today

It went like this:

"Scary Movie Characters:

Fredie Cougar

Alien

Al Gore."

It made me laugh.
 
Oh yeah, real eye opener alright. Except it forget to metion the worlds temp has gone up by 1.6 degrees in the past 2000 fucking years. Oh and Al gore invented the internet too. What a moron.
 
such a good movie, Al Gore knows is doign the right thing by campaigning this all over the world.

that movie made me want to get out of the US even more than before too.

Americans are lazy morons who fear change
 
Doing the right thing? Are you kidding me? Global warming is pure grade A Alberta BULLSHIT! The same people who scream about this predicted we would be in an ice age right now. Then you have the blatant anti-americanism. I will never understand that either.
 
Its people like you that will make this planet die. In 40 years, you will be saying "Im such a douchbag, why didn't I listen when people were showing me unrefutible arguments that will save my kids life"
 
Nice grammar fuckwad. It's irrefutable. Yes it is easily done. Tell me, how much as the temp gone up in the past say...8 years?

Oh and kids? I may not live long enough. Will probably get myself killed in Afghanistan.
 
Half a degree, now answer this: Why are the pole melting? And were does the water go? What effects the water do on the jet streem?

Leave your insults and environmental-destruction thoughts in your ass and start worrying about the future.
 
i did fucking searchbar. you searchbar "an inconvienient truth" and tell me what you come up with... this thread and thats it.
 
Yeah it's great, simply amazing, stunning to say the least........NOT. It is just another biased politician that wouldn't be doing any better than our current president, which is pretty fucking shitty if I do say so myself.
 
Jet streAm or Gulf stream?

Either way, excess water in the oceans will halt the gulf stream and effectively start an ice age.

The Earth goes in cycles. Katrina was a big storm caused by abnormaly warm water. Ok. BUT, what about hurricane Andrew or whatever in 1991? THAT was huge, but for some reaosn not global warming material.
 
Did you see the movie? He addressed that very clearly. He said a world temperature change means that the equator changes very little, but the polar ice caps change much more, which has much more of an effect. I think the example was if world temperature goes up 5 degrees, the poles go up 17. Watch the movie and then try and argue with it.

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1st link-

Actually that whole report gives overwhelming evidence of global warming. I don't know why you chose it. The title is GLOBAL TEMPERATURE IN 2004 FOURTH WARMEST and it says "The last 10 years (1995-2004), with the exception of 1996, are among the warmest 10 years on record."

2nd link-

This is an example of what Gore said was slowing the process of fixing global warming. There are close to 0 scientific studies that disagree that global warming is happening and humans are causing it, while close to half of magazine and news articles are doubtful of it. This guy isn't even talking about the movie for most of the article. He claims that Antarctica is actually gaining ice, which is contradicted by your first link. Nice research there.

3rd link-

It makes an alright point, but the examples are completely unrelated. How exactly will creating higher mileage cars kill millions of people? Is the theory of global warming a product of blatant racism? The two are not even comparable. He even says, "In my view, there is only one hope for humankind to emerge from what Carl Sagan called "the demon-haunted world" of our past. That hope is science."
 
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as for the movie, i will being seeing it in the next week or so, i hear it is terrific.
 
the movie was alright. It went over some very basic stuff, but it also left a lot out. And there was too much about al gore in it, I don't care that his daddy had a farm. Maybee the increase in methane levels due to an overpopulation of livestock has an effect too.
 
the real point is, were fuckin motha earth, we know it, everyones just bein partisan and mob mental, "its bullshit because ____________", were fucked because ___________", reality is, we all should start analyzing our resource consumption and ration it a lot more, cause in about 20 years theres gonna be 6 billion more retards bitching and moaning on the planet
 
i saw it a few days ago, i loved, but it scared me shitless. i had to see it for school, it was one of our summer assignments
 
but it didnt increase nice and gradually, the majority of that change has been in the last few decades
 
You do realize those 17 thousand scientists signed that petition 8 years ago, right?

"It is a petition signed by nearly 17,000 US scientists, half of whom are trained in the fields of physics, geophysics, climate science, meteorology, oceanography, chemistry, biology, or biochemistry."

"And without US participation, any plan to curtail CO2 emissions is doomed - as it ought to be."


Now that's an example of real journalistic excellence. Way to be objective.

Now for the actual website. The author is a biologist, who studies mushroom formation and yeast physiology, so obviously he is a credible expert on global warming.

Here are some quotes from his "about the author" page:

"There is only one cause of all problems, which is satan and the evil persons who he controls."

Not crazy at all...

"After getting significant results with mushrooms, I attempted to publish in the science journals but was locked out."

It sounds like he wants revenge on the scientific community for not publishing him.

Totally credible.

"CO2 disolving in water establishes an equilibrium. Equilibrium means absolute regulation.

Production and sequestration of CO2 are totally irrelevant, because they do not regulate."


This is not true. Production or sequestration of CO2 are not irrelevant, because if you add CO2, the equilibrium changes, shifting one way or the other. LeChatlier's Principle. That's fucking 10th grade chemistry.

I would also like this guy to explain this graph, with his claim that "The effect of so-called greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide is extremely minuscule."

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"Air has a much lower heat capacity than water, which means oceans can heat the air, but the air cannot significantly heat the oceans."

So, a glass of cold water will not eventually change to room temperature water. Right...

"The fact that there is so little variation in atmospheric CO2 over the centuries demonstrates that it is regulated."

Right, up until very recently.

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Plus, his spelling and grammar reflect his level of professionalism very nicely.

"The see level gets about 400 feet lower over about 80 thousand years. Whether the oceans actually heat up for 80 thousand years, or whether the heat up of the oceans is just a trigger mechanism isn't clear."
 
i saw it a few weeks ago and it was simply amazing. I for one had believed that global warming was a natural cycle. Indeed it is, however, we are adding upon that cycle, which could, and seems like it will, have devastating effects.

It is more of an eye opener, especially for those of us in the United States. Not so much that we are ignorant, but we can see the lagging effect we have in the government and regulations, which just isn't helping the problem. It is an important film for anybody in the world, just because it is a global effect.

I thought the movie was well constructed. There was a small amount of politics in the movie, but it is obvious that it shouldn't be a republican or democrat issue; it is an issue for all.

And it pisses me off that a lot of conservatives (especially on talk radio) are trying to pass this off as some liberal brainwashing propaganda. But it isn't. The facts are there. For those in doubt, you can obtain the same information almost immediately.

But this movie is a must see. I hate to think that a movie like this doesn't quite get as much buzz as Jennifer fucking Aniston in some bull shit comedy. This delivers a profound effect on a profound issue that will and does impact every single one of us.
 
i am not about to get into at 2am...but i saw it yesterday (not your typical date movie) and i had wanted to see it for a while.

i found it rather interesting and im looking forward to researching the subject further myself...but for now i will say that the film was pretty one-sided and i will take it with a grain of salt until i have come to my own conclusions with more research on my part.
 
Scope knows his stuff though im going to back him up since I really dont believe in global warming either. I admit that humans are causing some change in the earth but no where near as drastic as what al gore and the media make it out to be. The earth over its millions of years of existance has gone through warm and cold cycles.

If cars are causing global warming what caused the temperature rise during the 15th century? And we have only had instruments that can record weather patterns somewhat accurately for the last 100 years and actual decent instruments for at very most 20 years.

so to sum my self up. The earth naturally heats and cools its self over time. Just like the polarity of the earth naturally changes also.
 
There's always some ignorant fuck who's scared of the alternative that'll be there to say global warming doens't exist. SEE THE FUCKING MOVIE BEFORE YOU TALK SHIT HERE. He covers his bases very well and even shows the counter-arguments to his ideas/theories. There is way too much proof now-a-days to say that global warming isn't real. The people that say it's not are just too scared and ignorant to admit thier wrong.
 
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