American Greed: Local Ski Shop Owner Edition

r00kie

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I'll lay out the characters/ stores involved cause this is a great, long story.

Story takes place in Holland Michigan

Reliable Sport: Along time local family business, very well respected, at least until it was sold to Izzy.

Izzy: Main antagonist, bought Reliable, is a fraud.

Uncle Jibs: Ski shop started by former Reliable owners and staff. Great shop, check them out if in the area.

Me: Worked for Izzy for a solid one hour a few years ago. I quit cause place was on track for disaster.

Important note: all information may not be correct, just stories I've heard over a couple years ago and the current drama unfolding on a local Facebook group.

Reliable Sport was a long time local, family business in the area. Ski shop was separate from the other side of the business but operated under the same name in the same building for decades. Was a great shop, really the only in town but we didn't need more. A few years ago this Izzy dude bought both parts of the business, moved to a new location and drastically increased inventory with massive orders. This was in 2018 I believe. That fall I was needing some part time work so I inquired at Reliable. Izzy hired me right away and made it clear he wanted me to pretty much run the ski shop. He, and I paraphrase, wanted to be the big dog who managed from afar. First red flag. Izzy also tells me that he was 10s of thousands of dollars in ski gear ordered, ready to come in. Second red flag. I had only noticed 1 customer in 1 hour on a Saturday afternoon. I quickly get sick of Izzy's ego and tell that I won't be coming back.

Later that same fall a new shop, Uncle Jibs opens up so I check it out. Owner is the guy who previously owned the ski side of Reliable, great guy. His staff consists of guys who worked at Reliable but quit for the same reasons I did. We establish Izzy as a common connection and get to story telling. Apparently, when Izzy had placed that massive order, he made it under the previous owners name. When money came due and the collectors came to Izzy, he sent them down the road to Uncle Jibs. Real classy.

The next February, Reliable unsurprisingly closes, and no one misses at this point. I stopped following any story line at this point until this evening. Apparently Izzy spoke at a city council meeting, where he shared that he had been arrested while operating Reliable after getting caught failing to deliver on an order. This is after many complaints. I'll link the video of his comments in here. He claims the community owes him.


Izzy's comments start at the 7:29 mark.

Just gold, I'm glad this fraud got screwed and I'm getting a good laugh out of him claiming the city owes after driving a beloved local business into the ground and screwing multiple people from the community over in the process. Also, Uncle Jibs was not shaken by this guy, they went from being a seasonal part-time thing to year round, full time, with a second location.
 
I keep getting more laughs, dude has gone on a daily Facebook live rant all week apparently. His story will become a movie, he said so!!
 
Dude totally had it coming. What a dick

you always know they are in the wrong when they immediately start rummaging through their backstory trying to get people to pity them
 
Kind of thing happens all the time, someone buys a well established business thinking that they can kick back and collect profit only be slapped across the face with reality it takes work to make something work. Not being able to see their own failures for not wanting to put work in they blame others around them and want a bail out. Merica.

**This post was edited on Jun 18th 2021 at 8:03:11am
 
14298337:DesertStix said:
100% curious what his actual complaints were. The community owes you because you suck at running a business?

He claims that Holland PD, his landlord, his suppliers, his insurance provider, etc. are all screwing him over. One of his Facebook rants is him standing outside city hall yelling at officers claiming its all because of race.
 
Lmfao screwing him over how? I watched about 2 minutes and didn’t hear a detailed, legitimate accusation of anything concrete. Lady in the back is DONE with his shit

14298340:r00kie said:
He claims that Holland PD, his landlord, his suppliers, his insurance provider, etc. are all screwing him over. One of his Facebook rants is him standing outside city hall yelling at officers claiming its all because of race.
 
14298346:DesertStix said:
Lmfao screwing him over how? I watched about 2 minutes and didn’t hear a detailed, legitimate accusation of anything concrete. Lady in the back is DONE with his shit

By following through on failed delivery complaints, evicting him for not paying rent, and not filling his claim for having all of his merchandise tossed into the parking lot during eviction. Check him out on Facebook, Izzy Vsholland.

**This post was edited on Jun 18th 2021 at 10:31:04am
 
Haha this guy is an absolute kook. Seriously, just move if you think some tiny town is conspiring against you

14298349:r00kie said:
By following through on failed delivery complaints, evicting him for not paying rent, and not filling his claim for having all of his merchandise tossed into the parking lot during eviction. Check him out on Facebook, Izzy Vsholland.

**This post was edited on Jun 18th 2021 at 10:31:04am
 
Anyone who describes themselves as "CEO at Self Made Boss" is guaranteed to be a piece of shit.
 
14298363:pokerman said:
I don't really understand....

What did the city do to him, why so much hate towards a guy who failed at business...

He didn't just fail, he screwed over or tried to screw over a lot of people while doing so and is now making a show out of claiming the city and community somehow owe him something.
 
Wait, so you inquired with him for part time work, and he then straight up asked you without a formal interview to manage the shop while he chilled in the shadows counting beans?

yeah nope.
 
Also, the guy who used to own the ski side of that shop was able to just open up a new shop in town?

Did this dude seriously not have him sign a non-compete as terms of the sale? What's the deal?
 
14298384:DingoSean said:
Wait, so you inquired with him for part time work, and he then straight up asked you without a formal interview to manage the shop while he chilled in the shadows counting beans?

yeah nope.

Nailed it.

14298386:DingoSean said:
Also, the guy who used to own the ski side of that shop was able to just open up a new shop in town?

Did this dude seriously not have him sign a non-compete as terms of the sale? What's the deal?

Going out on a limb and guessing Izzy has no idea what a non compete is.
 
My favorite part is where he places a large order for equip under someone else’s name and still claims victim. I’m assuming that shop isn’t pursuing things with him because he doesn’t have anything to take lol

14298386:DingoSean said:
Also, the guy who used to own the ski side of that shop was able to just open up a new shop in town?

Did this dude seriously not have him sign a non-compete as terms of the sale? What's the deal?
 
topic:r00kie said:
That fall I was needing some part time work so I inquired at Reliable. Izzy hired me right away and made it clear he wanted me to pretty much run the ski shop.

Weird that he hired a 15 year old to run a ski shop.
 
14298393:DesertStix said:
My favorite part is where he places a large order for equip under someone else’s name and still claims victim. I’m assuming that shop isn’t pursuing things with him because he doesn’t have anything to take lol

yeah, if anything, the name he purchased that stuff under is probably absolved of anything once the suppliers realized the situation at hand...

Many times have I heard of ski shops go down the tubes due to having bad credit or bad relationships with suppliers thinking they can just skate on through because somehow theyve earned some respect due to some name they carry... this is a classic and extreme case of that, so it sounds.
 
Yeah totally they would be absolved but that process isn’t always easy and having a corporation trying to collect possibly hundreds of thousands of dollars from you (even if you know in the end you don’t owe it) has to be a nightmare. Dude could get a civil case against him in a heartbeat just for the headache he caused another shop owner. I’m assuming from what everyone has said about the other shop that they have a good relationship with the manufacturer but imagine if a company like Amer was confused and thought that other shop legit placed the order… dudes an asshole lol

14298671:DingoSean said:
yeah, if anything, the name he purchased that stuff under is probably absolved of anything once the suppliers realized the situation at hand...

Many times have I heard of ski shops go down the tubes due to having bad credit or bad relationships with suppliers thinking they can just skate on through because somehow theyve earned some respect due to some name they carry... this is a classic and extreme case of that, so it sounds.
 
14298680:DesertStix said:
Yeah totally they would be absolved but that process isn’t always easy and having a corporation trying to collect possibly hundreds of thousands of dollars from you (even if you know in the end you don’t owe it) has to be a nightmare. Dude could get a civil case against him in a heartbeat just for the headache he caused another shop owner. I’m assuming from what everyone has said about the other shop that they have a good relationship with the manufacturer but imagine if a company like Amer was confused and thought that other shop legit placed the order… dudes an asshole lol

Ehh... That kinda depends man.

Usually suppliers are pretty clued into everything because they have regional representatives, and if this dude would have made a bunch of orders in another guys name, the local rep - who would likely have had a long relationship with the old shop and owner would have just cancelled the order and blacklisted the new guy. This sucks for the rep and the supplier, but at least they know how things stand... However it sucks even worse for someone in Izzy's state, because even if his fortunes turned around, he wont get the same product deals and margins he might get otherwise, if the rep is even willing to work with him again and accept his orders in the first place. I know quite a few ski shops who dont sell certain brands because they burned their bridges and limited what they could supply due to unprofessionalism (I have seen the same thing from the reps side of things but I digress)

Capitalism is a show me the money game, and in the ski industry, if you don't have it, then you wont get the product support youll need to be the most effective sales environment.
 
Yeah for sure. I guess my point was that since it’s technically a new business, I wasn’t sure how that relationship with reps looked like for the jibs guys. I’ve never worked in a ski shop but have worked in hockey pro shops so my knowledge on reps and product orders are based on a similar, yet different, winter sport.

I’m just astonished at this dudes audacity and self righteousness lol

14298689:DingoSean said:
Ehh... That kinda depends man.

Usually suppliers are pretty clued into everything because they have regional representatives, and if this dude would have made a bunch of orders in another guys name, the local rep - who would likely have had a long relationship with the old shop and owner would have just cancelled the order and blacklisted the new guy. This sucks for the rep and the supplier, but at least they know how things stand... However it sucks even worse for someone in Izzy's state, because even if his fortunes turned around, he wont get the same product deals and margins he might get otherwise, if the rep is even willing to work with him again and accept his orders in the first place. I know quite a few ski shops who dont sell certain brands because they burned their bridges and limited what they could supply due to unprofessionalism (I have seen the same thing from the reps side of things but I digress)

Capitalism is a show me the money game, and in the ski industry, if you don't have it, then you wont get the product support youll need to be the most effective sales environment.
 
14298705:DesertStix said:
Yeah for sure. I guess my point was that since it’s technically a new business, I wasn’t sure how that relationship with reps looked like for the jibs guys. I’ve never worked in a ski shop but have worked in hockey pro shops so my knowledge on reps and product orders are based on a similar, yet different, winter sport.

I’m just astonished at this dudes audacity and self righteousness lol

Yeah, and I dont exactly know how he went about making those orders, but Im guessing to even make them under a different name he had to do some shady shit, so there you have it
 
I’m not sure how he thought this was going to turn out well for him…

14298741:DingoSean said:
Yeah, and I dont exactly know how he went about making those orders, but Im guessing to even make them under a different name he had to do some shady shit, so there you have it
 
14298741:DingoSean said:
Yeah, and I dont exactly know how he went about making those orders, but Im guessing to even make them under a different name he had to do some shady shit, so there you have it

14298744:DesertStix said:
I’m not sure how he thought this was going to turn out well for him…

I wish I knew more of the story to share. All I got was a second hand re-telling a couple years ago.
 
So one of the Jibs owners here (the wife) Izzy didn’t buy the shop from us. We parted ways with our old partner(who we did sign a none compete with for a couple years) who in turn sold the ski shop back to the original owner (Voss) who in turn sold the whole business to Izzy. We didn’t start Jibs for a few years and it just happened to coincide when Izzy was the new owner, so the none compete was over and Izzy was never part of that contract. Also the whole purchasing under our old DBA was a giant pain in the butt but was cleared up with the company who tried collecting on us. We had to spend some money on a lawyer but not worth going after anyone with us civil suit.

Hope this answers some questions! Thanks for the positive feed back on us. Nothing makes us happier than happy customers!

14298386:DingoSean said:
Also, the guy who used to own the ski side of that shop was able to just open up a new shop in town?

Did this dude seriously not have him sign a non-compete as terms of the sale? What's the deal?
 
14303061:gypsyfox said:
So one of the Jibs owners here (the wife) Izzy didn’t buy the shop from us. We parted ways with our old partner(who we did sign a none compete with for a couple years) who in turn sold the ski shop back to the original owner (Voss) who in turn sold the whole business to Izzy. We didn’t start Jibs for a few years and it just happened to coincide when Izzy was the new owner, so the none compete was over and Izzy was never part of that contract. Also the whole purchasing under our old DBA was a giant pain in the butt but was cleared up with the company who tried collecting on us. We had to spend some money on a lawyer but not worth going after anyone with us civil suit.

Hope this answers some questions! Thanks for the positive feed back on us. Nothing makes us happier than happy customers!

Yeah that all makes more sense... Sounds like a lot of moving pieces!

It all sounds like a total mess that he made a purchasing order under your old DBA, but no doubt you would have been cleared in the end - still, it cost you time and money to seek legal council and that is not okay.
 
Lmao so they didn’t get their order cancelled, went into collections, and had to pay a lawyer. Pretty much the exact head ache I mentioned earlier

14303086:DingoSean said:
Yeah that all makes more sense... Sounds like a lot of moving pieces!

It all sounds like a total mess that he made a purchasing order under your old DBA, but no doubt you would have been cleared in the end - still, it cost you time and money to seek legal council and that is not okay.
 
14303220:DesertStix said:
Lmao so they didn’t get their order cancelled, went into collections, and had to pay a lawyer. Pretty much the exact head ache I mentioned earlier

yup its fucked up man
 
14303555:mitchey said:
Yessir born and raised, just finished college though so this is probably my last summer there

Same here lol. Just finished school and will be heading west late fall/early winter. Did you go to Hope?
 
14303561:r00kie said:
Same here lol. Just finished school and will be heading west late fall/early winter. Did you go to Hope?

I actually went to school in st louis so have only been around for the summers the last few years. Went to west ottawa for hs so had hella friends at hope tho
 
14303628:mitchey said:
I actually went to school in st louis so have only been around for the summers the last few years. Went to west ottawa for hs so had hella friends at hope tho

Yikes, I graduated from wo in 17.
 
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