Alta is for SKIERS

[Skibumsmith]

 

[BigPurpleSkiSuit]

It should be for everybody

 

[@LANTASKI]

It should be for everybody

Speak for yourself.

Alta is for skiers.

 

[GrapeHunter]

iT sHulLd BeE fUr eVeRybuDdyy!!! urhhh i just shit my pants urhhhh

 

[MastePoleWhacker]

I have no problem with boarders but good luck dealing with the high t on a board

 

[muffMan.]

I have no problem with boarders but good luck dealing with the high t on a board

Oh they’ll just boot pack it up like the assholes at bridger

 

[Granby_killdozer]

What in the fuck is this shit!!! please tell me there was a group of people waiting to beat his ass at the top.

ALTA IS FOR SKIERS

 

[SWRTOFFICIAL]

loves being afraid of snowboarders

 

[The_Best_Bread]

loves being afraid of snowboarders

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[SWRTOFFICIAL]

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with you brother

 

[MoneyMakerMike]

Alta has so much traversing idk why a snowboarder would even want to ride there tbh

 

[GayWolf420]

Alta is where Snowbird skiers go to retire.

 

[TreyDudski]

Alta has so much traversing idk why a snowboarder would even want to ride there tbh

Honestly, some of those runs would be freakin awful on a board

 

[Skibumsmith]

What in the fuck is this shit!!! please tell me there was a group of people waiting to beat his ass at the top.

ALTA IS FOR SKIERS

Lol this was pre opening and we were loading avy dog trainers. The lifty at the time wasn’t sure what to do and had to call his boss. I thought it was pretty funny and decided to take a picture.

 

[hoodratz47]

It's on public land let the knuckle draggers shred

 

[eheath]

It's on public land let the knuckle draggers shred

everyone who says this hasn't ski at alta.

The amount of traversing you have to do at alta is not snowboarder friendly, sure there are plenty of runs they could ride without traversing, but there are also 8 other resorts within 60 mins of alta so it's really not that big of a deal.

I don't know a single snowboarder that cares they can't ride alta.

 

[dylhole]

Alta has so much traversing idk why a snowboarder would even want to ride there tbh

Yet the most snowboard-dominant mountain in the Wasatch is full of traversing... Anyone skiing Mary's/Rock Gardens 15+ years ago was very much in the minority on that traverse. Snowboarders figured out how to ride Brighton, they'd do the same at Alta. Let em ride it too, and let them (and skiers) set boot packs - that sidestepping nonsense is pure garbage.

 

[eheath]

Yet the most snowboard-dominant mountain in the Wasatch is full of traversing... Anyone skiing Mary's/Rock Gardens 15+ years ago was very much in the minority on that traverse. Snowboarders figured out how to ride Brighton, they'd do the same at Alta. Let em ride it too, and let them (and skiers) set boot packs - that sidestepping nonsense is pure garbage.

While I'm for alta/DV allowing snowboarders, i dont think that the traversing at brighton is the same as alta, nor is it the same amount of traversing.

Either way, traversing shouldn't be the reason they aren't allowed, I just think most snowboarders would get frustrated with the amount of traversing at alta.

 

[Way*Mo]

98% of the traversing at Alta is no more difficult or long that what’s at Snowbird.

Snowboards handle that fine and enjoy the terrain.

Alta would be mad fun on a snowboard. I’d argue much of the terrain is actually suited better for a board than skis in comparison to someplace like Snowbird.

Let them in.

everyone who says this hasn't ski at alta.

The amount of traversing you have to do at alta is not snowboarder friendly, sure there are plenty of runs they could ride without traversing, but there are also 8 other resorts within 60 mins of alta so it's really not that big of a deal.

I don't know a single snowboarder that cares they can't ride alta.

 

[eheath]

98% of the traversing at Alta is no more difficult or long that what’s at Snowbird.

Snowboards handle that fine and enjoy the terrain.

Alta would be mad fun on a snowboard. I’d argue much of the terrain is actually suited better for a board than skis in comparison to someplace like Snowbird.

Let them in.

i respectfully disagree about the traversing, but in the end we both agree to allow them.

 

[BigPurpleSkiSuit]

98% of the traversing at Alta is no more difficult or long that what’s at Snowbird.

Snowboards handle that fine and enjoy the terrain.

Alta would be mad fun on a snowboard. I’d argue much of the terrain is actually suited better for a board than skis in comparison to someplace like Snowbird.

Let them in.

High T at Alta is a different beast from any traverse at the bird, bird you can also drop directly onto many things except for out past Ptex point

 

[IHatePedophiles]

No, it's for me

 

[armchair_skier]

Alta is for pussies because there’s no park

 

[Granby_killdozer]

It's on public land let the knuckle draggers shred

Mt Hood is public land too. That didnt stop high cascade diggers from throwing rakes at skiers that tried to come through their park back in the day. Lots of snowboarders are super cunty towards skiers so they can all just stay the hell out of Alta.

 

[Way*Mo]

There used to be. Haha. Former Alta park crew alum.

Alta is for pussies because there’s no park

 

[@LANTASKI]

Yet the most snowboard-dominant mountain in the Wasatch is full of traversing... Anyone skiing Mary's/Rock Gardens 15+ years ago was very much in the minority on that traverse. Snowboarders figured out how to ride Brighton, they'd do the same at Alta. Let em ride it too, and let them (and skiers) set boot packs - that sidestepping nonsense is pure garbage.

no ...TBH they should ban snowboarding from LCC. Let them ride the People's Canyon (BCC)

 

[@LANTASKI]

98% of the traversing at Alta is no more difficult or long that what’s at Snowbird.

Snowboards handle that fine and enjoy the terrain.

Alta would be mad fun on a snowboard. I’d argue much of the terrain is actually suited better for a board than skis in comparison to someplace like Snowbird.

Let them in.

Alta is the skiing equivalent of Augusta National. Its hallowed ground. The spirit of the sport lives within its boundaries. No other resort embodies the ethos and "IDEAL (In the classical sense) of our sport than Alta. Snowboarding would ruin everything that makes it special.

 

[Skibumsmith]

There used to be. Haha. Former Alta park crew alum.

Cheers to the Alta Park Crew!!



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[Way*Mo]

Fuck your ‘hallowed ground’. You sound like a giant bell end.

skiing is meant to be fun and irreverent, not exclusionary. We’re sliding around on frozen water on glorified popsicle sticks.

Plus count me out of wanting to be associated with Augusta National, the country club that wouldn’t accept black members until 1990. Fuck them the most.

Alta is the skiing equivalent of Augusta National. Its hallowed ground. The spirit of the sport lives within its boundaries. No other resort embodies the ethos and "IDEAL (In the classical sense) of our sport than Alta. Snowboarding would ruin everything that makes it special.

 

[SofaKingSick]

Alta is the skiing equivalent of Augusta National. Its hallowed ground. The spirit of the sport lives within its boundaries. No other resort embodies the ethos and "IDEAL (In the classical sense) of our sport than Alta. Snowboarding would ruin everything that makes it special.

do you notice that you can't offer any real-life reasons for banning snowboarding, and have to just give vague platitudes about "ethos" and "IDEAL" (and reference a golf course that didn't allow black people until the 90s)?

what would snowboarding "ruin" for you?

 

[Skibumsmith]

Alta is the skiing equivalent of Augusta National. Its hallowed ground. The spirit of the sport lives within its boundaries. No other resort embodies the ethos and "IDEAL (In the classical sense) of our sport than Alta. Snowboarding would ruin everything that makes it special.

I don't necessarily agree with it either, but this is what they're selling and people are buying it.

Fuck your ‘hallowed ground’. You sound like a giant bell end.

skiing is meant to be fun and irreverent, not exclusionary. We’re sliding around on frozen water on glorified popsicle sticks.

Plus count me out of wanting to be associated with Augusta National, the country club that wouldn’t accept black members until 1990. Fuck them the most.

do you notice that you can't offer any real-life reasons for banning snowboarding, and have to just give vague platitudes about "ethos" and "IDEAL" (and reference a golf course that didn't allow black people until the 90s)?

what would snowboarding "ruin" for you?

 

[Granby_killdozer]

do you notice that you can't offer any real-life reasons for banning snowboarding, and have to just give vague platitudes about "ethos" and "IDEAL" (and reference a golf course that didn't allow black people until the 90s)?

what would snowboarding "ruin" for you?

Idk if you've ever seen snowboarders but the bad ones tend to plow large swaths of snow down the mountain on their back edge and make runs icy. how do you not know this?? I'm also not sure what the problem is with excluding snowboarders at a few mountains. like shit they can have a mountain that's snowboard only if they want. I don't care.

There are already plenty of snowboard-only events, even at shitty east coast mountains. I see snowboard only stuff all the time. There used to be ski only events like nine knights that now have snowboarding and it seems that they want to be included in everything related to skiing but don't have any interest in being inclusive themselves. At the end of the day, what is wrong with making something exclusive? I don't cry about not being allowed to ski in snowboard-only parks and events.

 

[eheath]

Idk if you've ever seen snowboarders but the bad ones tend to plow large swaths of snow down the mountain on their back edge and make runs icy. how do you not know this?? I'm also not sure what the problem is with excluding snowboarders at a few mountains. like shit they can have a mountain that's snowboard only if they want. I don't care.

There are already plenty of snowboard-only events, even at shitty east coast mountains. I see snowboard only stuff all the time. There used to be ski only events like nine knights that now have snowboarding and it seems that they want to be included in everything related to skiing but don't have any interest in being inclusive themselves. At the end of the day, what is wrong with making something exclusive? I don't cry about not being allowed to ski in snowboard-only parks and events.

Don't get it twisted, skiers fuck up runs too.

 

[SofaKingSick]

Mt Hood is public land too. That didnt stop high cascade diggers from throwing rakes at skiers that tried to come through their park back in the day. Lots of snowboarders are super cunty towards skiers so they can all just stay the hell out of Alta.

Idk if you've ever seen snowboarders but the bad ones tend to plow large swaths of snow down the mountain on their back edge and make runs icy. how do you not know this?? I'm also not sure what the problem is with excluding snowboarders at a few mountains. like shit they can have a mountain that's snowboard only if they want. I don't care.

There are already plenty of snowboard-only events, even at shitty east coast mountains. I see snowboard only stuff all the time. There used to be ski only events like nine knights that now have snowboarding and it seems that they want to be included in everything related to skiing but don't have any interest in being inclusive themselves. At the end of the day, what is wrong with making something exclusive? I don't cry about not being allowed to ski in snowboard-only parks and events.

haha dude, bad skiers and snowboarders both scrape snow. likewise, there are both douchebag snowboarders (e.g. the high cascade guys who permanently hurt your feelings apparently) and douchebag skiers (e.g. you, skierman, guys named tad). nothing about any of this is specific to the gear

and skiers and snowboarders having their own events is not analogous to banning from mtns but i think you know that and just want to list things to pretend your position on this isn't 100% emotion-based

 

[Granby_killdozer]

haha dude, bad skiers and snowboarders both scrape snow. likewise, there are both douchebag snowboarders (e.g. the high cascade guys who permanently hurt your feelings apparently) and douchebag skiers (e.g. you, skierman, guys named tad). nothing about any of this is specific to the gear

and skiers and snowboarders having their own events is not analogous to banning from mtns but i think you know that and just want to list things to pretend your position on this isn't 100% emotion-based

okay and how many bad skiers do you see trying to pizza down a chute or off a cliff? Bad skiers stick to groomers, dudebro boarders who ride a few times a year will gladly let their egos go unchecked and side swipe all the snow off shit they shouldn't be riding in the first place.

And I'm giving you concrete examples of skier exclusion and your counter argument is that I just have hUrT fEeLiNgS and I'm being EmOtIoNaL. It absolutely is comparable to being banned from a mountain and I would actually argue that it's worse because if I pay for a pass to a mountain then I should be able to ride the park there when I go. There are far more snowboard only events than skier only events. You claiming that my logical argument is emotion based doesn't invalidate it. It is a fact that mountains hold snowboard only events. It is a fact that snowboarding attracts a demographic of people who are less risk averse and thus more willing to ride places they shouldn't be, and it is a fact that your mom is a whore.

ALTA IS FOR SKIERS

 

[Skibumsmith]

Oh boy. Never meant for this thread to be so political. Just wanted to post a funny pic of a snowboarder riding the chair at Alta.

 

[SofaKingSick]

okay and how many bad skiers do you see trying to pizza down a chute or off a cliff? Bad skiers stick to groomers, dudebro boarders who ride a few times a year will gladly let their egos go unchecked and side swipe all the snow off shit they shouldn't be riding in the first place.

And I'm giving you concrete examples of skier exclusion and your counter argument is that I just have hUrT fEeLiNgS and I'm being EmOtIoNaL. It absolutely is comparable to being banned from a mountain and I would actually argue that it's worse because if I pay for a pass to a mountain then I should be able to ride the park there when I go. There are far more snowboard only events than skier only events. You claiming that my logical argument is emotion based doesn't invalidate it. It is a fact that mountains hold snowboard only events. It is a fact that snowboarding attracts a demographic of people who are less risk averse and thus more willing to ride places they shouldn't be, and it is a fact that your mom is a whore.

ALTA IS FOR SKIERS

shitty skiers and boarders do dumb stuff all the time, i really doubt you have quantitative evidence behind your claim that snowboarders are worse about it in a way that justifies banning from mountains. you're just going with your gut and that's why i'm saying it's an emotional response

and again, snowboard-only events and some snowboarders not being inclusive to skiers does not have anything to do with banning other snowboarders from entire mountains, you're just describing a chip on your shoulder so again, it's an emotional argument

i'm not saying that to tease you, i'm saying it's only going to be convincing to people who already share your "snowboarders are hooligans" feeling based on anecdotes

 

[Granby_killdozer]

shitty skiers and boarders do dumb stuff all the time, i really doubt you have quantitative evidence behind your claim that snowboarders are worse about it in a way that justifies banning from mountains. you're just going with your gut and that's why i'm saying it's an emotional response

and again, snowboard-only events and some snowboarders not being inclusive to skiers does not have anything to do with banning other snowboarders from entire mountains, you're just describing a chip on your shoulder so again, it's an emotional argument

i'm not saying that to tease you, i'm saying it's only going to be convincing to people who already share your "snowboarders are hooligans" feeling based on anecdotes

Right. It's more of a general observation made from a lifetime of skiing than a gut feeling but I get ur point. I'd be more open to snowboarders riding at Alta if they started letting skiers ride at holy bowly, supernatural, and super park. That would honestly suck though because those events are important to snowboard culture and watering them down with skiers for the sake of "inclusion" would be lame just like letting boarders ride at Alta would be lame.

I cant understand why people like you want to blend everything together. The argument for doing that is just as much of a "gut feeling" emotional argument as the argument for not doing it. Letting snowboarders ride there wouldnt be an objectively good thing. It is not the same thing as denying someone with accability issues the chance to ride there. If you can snowboard then you can also ski. Why is it so objectively wrong to let us have our separate cultures instead of blending everything together?

 

[Way*Mo]

“Let us have our separate cultures” has serious bigoted tones.

And if we’re going with a ‘lifetime’ of observations, snowboarders have been equally if not more accepting, more fun, and generally better stewards of sliding on snow than skiers in my experience. And I grew up in LCC.

Also access to events is not comparable to access of an entire mountain that sits on National Forest Service land. There are plenty of ski only events also.

You just generally sound like a ‘type III’ skier who grew up with your inbred family telling you snowboards were the devil and you drank all the kool-aid.

Go take your shaped skis to Deer Valley if you’re so concerned about preserving your version of ski culture.

Right. It's more of a general observation made from a lifetime of skiing than a gut feeling but I get ur point. I'd be more open to snowboarders riding at Alta if they started letting skiers ride at holy bowly, supernatural, and super park. That would honestly suck though because those events are important to snowboard culture and watering them down with skiers for the sake of "inclusion" would be lame just like letting boarders ride at Alta would be lame.

I cant understand why people like you want to blend everything together. The argument for doing that is just as much of a "gut feeling" emotional argument as the argument for not doing it. Letting snowboarders ride there wouldnt be an objectively good thing. It is not the same thing as denying someone with accability issues the chance to ride there. If you can snowboard then you can also ski. Why is it so objectively wrong to let us have our separate cultures instead of blending everything together?

 

[Granby_killdozer]

“Let us have our separate cultures” has serious bigoted tones.

Does it? I think you're just making an emotional argument. What do you think @SofaKingSick ??

ALTA IS FOR SKIERS

 

[GrapeHunter]

hahaha u guys know whats funny?? snowboarders still aren't allowed at alta hahahaha

 

[@LANTASKI]

“Let us have our separate cultures” has serious bigoted tones.

And if we’re going with a ‘lifetime’ of observations, snowboarders have been equally if not more accepting, more fun, and generally better stewards of sliding on snow than skiers in my experience. And I grew up in LCC.

Also access to events is not comparable to access of an entire mountain that sits on National Forest Service land. There are plenty of ski only events also.

You just generally sound like a ‘type III’ skier who grew up with your inbred family telling you snowboards were the devil and you drank all the kool-aid.

Go take your shaped skis to Deer Valley if you’re so concerned about preserving your version of ski culture.

Snowsports bigotry is not a thing LMAO...its disrespectful to actual people that have had to face REAL RACISM like Jim Crow- which thankfully we as a nation have put behind us

 

[@LANTASKI]

“Let us have our separate cultures” has serious bigoted tones.

And if we’re going with a ‘lifetime’ of observations, snowboarders have been equally if not more accepting, more fun, and generally better stewards of sliding on snow than skiers in my experience. And I grew up in LCC.

Also access to events is not comparable to access of an entire mountain that sits on National Forest Service land. There are plenty of ski only events also.

You just generally sound like a ‘type III’ skier who grew up with your inbred family telling you snowboards were the devil and you drank all the kool-aid.

Go take your shaped skis to Deer Valley if you’re so concerned about preserving your version of ski culture.

Deer Valley is like the TPC Sawgrass of Skiing, where its impressive but overly manicured and lacking soul and substance. It's still cool, but it aint Augusta

 

[GayWolf420]

Deer Valley is like the TPC Sawgrass of Skiing, where its impressive but overly manicured and lacking soul and substance. It's still cool, but it aint Augusta

How about we dont even mix golf in with skiing at all because its total soft dick energy and golf courses suck dick. Its paid my bills for a few years but man what a fucking corny culture you guys have.

**This post was edited on Mar 18th 2022 at 1:53:58am

 

[Way*Mo]

You’re the one with the boner for a historically racist institution and the one making the comparison.

You are also the one who makes uneducated statements like “our country is past Jim Crow”, when very clearly it’s not. Most those laws may not explicitly be on the books, but their spirit is alive and well and permeates our institutions. Hell, there are still sundown towns in rural parts of the south.

Obviously real racism is supremely terrible.

And in our small snow sliding sphere of the world, banning snowboarders from federally public lands also sucks.

You are either an very clever troll (in which case you got me), or incredibly ignorant. Cheers bruh.

Snowsports bigotry is not a thing LMAO...its disrespectful to actual people that have had to face REAL RACISM like Jim Crow- which thankfully we as a nation have put behind us

**This post was edited on Mar 18th 2022 at 8:53:22am

 

[.squirrely.]

okay and how many bad skiers do you see trying to pizza down a chute or off a cliff?

Common practice at the alta. Maybe back in the day it was some hallowed ground where everyone skied fall line and didnt scrape snow down chutes but it’s really no different than any other mountain. Maybe the average skier is a bit better than most resorts but still plenty of beaters to go around.

 

[SofaKingSick]

Does it? I think you're just making an emotional argument. What do you think @SofaKingSick ??

ALTA IS FOR SKIERS

oh, i think your masterful use of logic and caps lock has clearly proven that snowboarders are the grinch who stole christmas man. hate away

 

[Granby_killdozer]

And in our small snow sliding sphere of the world, banning snowboarders from federally public lands also sucks.

People are not banned from public land... the land is leased by Alta and everyone is free to go there as long as they purchase a lift ticket and use skis. It works just like other ski areas that operate within national forests. I can't get mad if Abasin kicks me out for riding a tube down their slopes. They are in the Arapahoe national forest but they lease the land from the government and they make the rules for the land they lease.

 

[Way*Mo]

Fair enough, this is the only salient point you have made.

People are not banned from public land... the land is leased by Alta and everyone is free to go there as long as they purchase a lift ticket and use skis. It works just like other ski areas that operate within national forests. I can't get mad if Abasin kicks me out for riding a tube down their slopes. They are in the Arapahoe national forest but they lease the land from the government and they make the rules for the land they lease.

 

[SofaKingSick]

People are not banned from public land... the land is leased by Alta and everyone is free to go there as long as they purchase a lift ticket and use skis. It works just like other ski areas that operate within national forests. I can't get mad if Abasin kicks me out for riding a tube down their slopes. They are in the Arapahoe national forest but they lease the land from the government and they make the rules for the land they lease.

yeah just to be clear i have no issue with it on that level, they have every right to do it. i just disagree with it, is all.

like you said, in a sense it's like them not allowing tubing, or for a better example, snow scooters or something. where we differ is that i don't consider snowboarding different enough from skiing to make it not allowed

 

[hoodratz47]

False equivalence. Those Lanes were rented out by a snowboard camp.....

Mt Hood is public land too. That didnt stop high cascade diggers from throwing rakes at skiers that tried to come through their park back in the day. Lots of snowboarders are super cunty towards skiers so they can all just stay the hell out of Alta.