All this sellout talk

I hear a lot about 'sellouts' on this board and would like to clear something up. A sellout is not someone like jonny mosely who gets paid shit loads of money by someone like chevy. A sellout is someone who changes his style or discipline, that probably doesn't make sense so I'll spell it out for you.

Example; Rossignol pays Tanner Hall 2 million to race for them instead of freestyle ski, tanner excepts, he is now a sellout.

Example 2; Sony pays 311 a gizzillion dollars to start singing pop music. 311 wouldn't be selling out because their music became popular.

Done.

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Whats with example 2? By your definition they changed their style of music... so they DIDN'T sell out??? hmm I don't get it.

 
Well I

Really don't know

If it matters at all so,

But we try to keep our prices low

For records and our shows

But is that enough,

Or is it that we're not punk enough,

Or it that you think ska just sucks,

But Johnny Quest, he thinks we're what?

Johnny Quest thinks we're sellouts

'Life without knowledge is death in disguise.'

--Talib Kweli
 
sorry cko, what I meant to say is that 311 is not sellouts because a lot of people like thier music now, a lot of 311 fans accused them of being sellout thier last few albums. I was trying to sat that if they were to so pop music like n'stink they'd be sellouts, it was just an example.

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man finaly some one is smart enough to understand, joining a record lable doesnt mean a band sells out, it mweans they have made it in the industry and can now survive bc they get piad!whoever posted this shit knows wut the fuck hes talking about so listen to him, ppl think that for getting paid to do wut ur doing is selling out, thats becasue they are FUCKING MORONS, the point is, selling out only occurs when u do sumthing for money and u have to change ur whole style or morals and all that shit,

 
tanner hall...racing...? what?

'When I'm mad as fuck you get shot and to some it's bad luck, I believe you held something back for too long, it grew strong and energy got its own will, and people think that we make music still, but music is there without you or me we just minipulate for better or worse so let it situate.'
 
311 dont sell out!

'I would be embarrassed to constantly complain about my life considering all the freedom and opportunities we have today. People that can't find anything they enjoy in life simply aren't giving it a real try.' ~Nick 311
 
To counter the less than Jake lyrics above here is a good song about not selling out.

Victory Records Sucks, by Good Clean Fun

Back in the day in the 80`s when the old bands would play (old school)

they managed o.K.

They did fine although they never got paid (that`s cool)

50 cent shows, no cars we walked both ways through the snow (uphill)

That`s how it should go, but you`re too busy counting your dough (each bill)

If you want to be punk, if you want to be cool, don`t forget the golden rule:

Stay underground, you must stay poor, don`t grow up and don`t ask for more

You live for the green, dead presidents destroy our scene (money)

You know what I mean, you pay your rent by the selling the dream (for me)

No individual retirement account, forget you and your 401K (Wall Street)

I`m gonna stay as poor as I am today (Can`t eat)

You can`t be punk if you don`t care that dollar signs are everywhere

It seems like everyone`s on Victory

But I will give away all that`s mine, and we won`t make another dime

Money changes everything, you see

But I won`t let it change me

...You have to see what your morals and what your life is worth to you before you take money for anything. Would you rather make more money and hate your life or be poor and happy? Money cant give you everything.

A brave man will not live forever but a coward will never live.
 
fuck you i like all of 311s cds and they dont sing fucking pop you idiot theres like 2 songs that could be considered pop on all there cds you should shut up jonny moseley isnt a sellout but hes still dumb

Bottom line everything sucks -Seth Morrison

free the heel!

dynastar is better than line i cant chage my screen name without losing my precious posts:( freeskiing is not a crime. washington represent! jonny moseley sucks! DOH!

Duffman can't breath ooh yah! That brown spot needs a little h20 ooh yah! snowlerblder hater.
 
yeah, i dont think this thread should die very soon so...

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you're gonna go to the record store

you're gonna give 'em all your money

radio plays what they want you to hear

they tell me it's cool but i just don't believe it...

sell out, with me oh yea, sell out, with me tonight

record company's gonna give me lots of money and

everything's gonna be all right.

I’m off on a rocketship prepared for something new

I’m off on a rok-it-ship ecstatic with the view

I am scared of the things upcoming

And I want for the things I don’t have

Cannot stand to be one of many

I’m not what they are

 
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