All mountain skis good for park?

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Alvinb

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I am buying a new pair of skis, and I am looking at these three. Since I am only buying one pair I will go for all mountain skis.

Head Kore 93

Nordica Enforcer 93

Nordica Enforcer 88

I live in Sweden and here there aren't that much pouder snow, therefore I am going for a smaller waist ski.

Most of the time I will be on the mountain carving, but sometimes I go in the park ant hit some rails and jumps.

They are all really great all mountain skis, I know that they are good on piste and pretty good off pise (especially Head Kore 93).

But are they good in park? I can't find any information about park performance for these skis anywhere. I know that the Head skis have more of a flat tail, and the Nordica skis are twintip.
 
If I were you I would get a more park/all mountain ski like Armada arv 98s, J skis allplay, Icelantic nomad 95s, or maybe even Line Blends if you want a softer ski.
 
14071508:matthewmx113 said:
If I were you I would get a more park/all mountain ski like Armada arv 98s, J skis allplay, Icelantic nomad 95s, or maybe even Line Blends if you want a softer ski.
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Yeah I know, I have been looking at factions skis like the prodigy 1.0 and CT 1.0. they are park and all mountain skis, but they don't turn as well as like the Nordica enforcer 88.
 
The Kore is not a full twin and I think the Enforcer isn't either. The enforcer free is closer and may be what you're looking for but it still won't be the best for park. I'd look into some more playful skis like the Armada ARV depending on how much you want to ski park. If it's not that much then the enforcer might be the way to go!

Newschoolers also recently did this review on their favorite all mountain sticks which might be a good read, https://www.newschoolers.com/news/read/Newschoolers-Editors-Picks-Mountain-Skis-2019-20
 
I wouldn't recommend any of the skis you listed. They're all really traditional, directional skis with very rearward mount points and flat tails — nothing about them is designed with park performance in mind.

What skis have you used in the past and what did you like / not like about them?

If you're coming from directional skis similar to the Kore / Enforcers, then I'd recommend something like the Dynastar Menace 98, Nordica Soul Rider 97, Armada ARV 96, or maybe the Blizzard Rustler 9. All of those skis are way more playful and suitable for the park than the Kore / Enforcer, but you can also drive the front of them like you would a more traditional, directional ski and they all carve pretty well (the Menace 98 & Rustler 9 being the best carvers).
 
14071560:patagonialuke said:
I wouldn't recommend any of the skis you listed. They're all really traditional, directional skis with very rearward mount points and flat tails — nothing about them is designed with park performance in mind.

What skis have you used in the past and what did you like / not like about them?

If you're coming from directional skis similar to the Kore / Enforcers, then I'd recommend something like the Dynastar Menace 98, Nordica Soul Rider 97, Armada ARV 96, or maybe the Blizzard Rustler 9. All of those skis are way more playful and suitable for the park than the Kore / Enforcer, but you can also drive the front of them like you would a more traditional, directional ski and they all carve pretty well (the Menace 98 & Rustler 9 being the best carvers).
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I am looking to buy the Nordica enforcer 88, just wondering what's makes the enforcer so bad at park besides not having a full twintip.

The skis that I have been riding before has been the Nordica badmind 2017. It's a great park ski but nothing more. Therefore I want a more versatile ski and the Nordica enforcer 88 has the best reviews for carving but also having a partial twintip.
 
Id say get whatever you feel, if your leaning towards the enforcer 88, then do it, its a great ski! Like everyone else is saying, it doesnt have a true twin, and it does have more of an all mountain camber, and not a centered park camber, but that doesnt mean that you cant ski them in the park, and hit a few jumps and rails with them. Id say get the 88 or even the 93, for a little bit more versatility.
 
14071573:Alvinb said:
I am looking to buy the Nordica enforcer 88, just wondering what's makes the enforcer so bad at park besides not having a full twintip.

The skis that I have been riding before has been the Nordica badmind 2017. It's a great park ski but nothing more. Therefore I want a more versatile ski and the Nordica enforcer 88 has the best reviews for carving but also having a partial twintip.
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A lot of things, most notable of which are: a directional flex with a tail that's notably stiffer than the tip; a directional rocker profile with a very low tail (I wouldn't call it a partial twin, I'd just say it has a tiny bit of tail rocker - see here for rocker pics); a directional shape with a tip that's much wider than the tail; and a rearward mount point that leaves you with much more ski in front of you than in back. In my opinion, the low tail of the Enforcer 88 is probably the least of your worries — I find its directional design to be much more of the issue in terms of throwing any tricks.

All of that combines to make for a ski that feels very unwieldy / unbalanced in the air (at least mounted on the line) and that does not ski switch well.

With all that said, the E88 is a great ski overall and I have nothing against it in general, it's just definitely not one that I'd recommend for hitting the park. If by "sometimes go in the park" you mean like, a few times a season — or you're only throwing 1's and 3's and not doing many rails — then it could work. But if you're hitting the park very often at all, I think it'd make a lot more sense to go with an all-mountain freestyle ski like the Menace 98 or Rustler 9. Those skis carve really well, aren't quite as damp or stable as the Enforcer 88, but they're so much better in the air, skiing switch, etc.

So it just comes down to your priorities. If you're primarily looking for a directional all-mountain ski and don't care about playfulness, the Enforcers are great options. But if you do value any sort of playfulness, there are lots of more playful skis that don't give up much in terms of all-mountain and carving performance.
 
I am leaning towards the enforcer 88, but I have got a great deal on the faction prodigy 1.0 for 400$ with bindings. The prodigy 1.0 is more playful than the enforcers but doesn't turn as well, as said in the review on this webpage. (Picture below). Does anyone know a ski that turns really well (preferably with a short turn radius), that you really can power through turns without bottoming out and also being playful and pretty good in the park?

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