Alcohol in Ontario

StealthSteez

StealthSteez

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Since our alcohol is controlled by the government, and only sold by two businesses (LCBO and The Beer Store) can't we be forced to pay any price for alcohol? Is our government screwing us? What are alcohol prices in the USA like compared to prices up in ontario?
 
Yes, its a monopoly. No one's forcing you to buy any at gunpoint if you disagree with the price though, so all is fair methinks. Dont know how US prices compare unfortunately.
 
Make yer own, i make moonshine thats almost pure ethanol...about 6 shots ur fucked ten shots ur puking and 12 ur dead

CHEERS
 
in ontario everything is prolly 15-20% more expensive than quebec as far as i have experienced... and im sure the US is even cheaper.
 
Hard liquor in the states is cheaper for sure. Sometimes around $15 for a twentysixer, to give you an idea. Cases of Corona are super cheap to...around $30
 
crossin the border at nigra/buffalo the duty free has crazy prices,, can get 2 24s for something like $36 (cans)
 
The LCBO (and Beer Store) is actually the largest liquor control boards in the world. Bet you didn't know that.

I just moved to Alberta and have travelled a tonne in the States. The prices for booze in ONT are close to the most expensive in all of North America. Because of the board as well, you get about 1/4 of the selection that you get anywhere else.

I buy Ontario beer and wines here in AB for 20% less than in ON. Brutal.

Last year the LCBO paid some serious money for an external consultant to study whether it was in the best interests of the province to break up the monopoly and get privatized (in terms of prices, government profits, product variety, etc.) The external consultant came back and said HELLS YES, get privatized. The LCBO ignored the findings of the report that they commissioned, and you still get beaten over the head with Molson, Labatts, and Niagara VQA vomit.

Is there any greasing going on? Hmmm, let me think.

Support your microbrews DIRECTLY....don't buy from the Beer Store or the LCBO. It's always cheaper & better.

These are the people (and their fat salaries) that want to keep things the way that they currently are:

[Source: ]http://www.fin.gov.on.ca/english/publications/salarydisclosure/2006/crown06.html]

$106,142.87 JOHN ALEXOPOULOS Manager, Retail Accounting

$115,875.86 LINDA ALTON Dir., Vintages Marketing, Food & Drink

$111,054.07 M. AMBROSE Manager, Process Analysis

$112,139.49 ROBERT ANDREWS District Manager

$113,719.82 VIC ARAUJO General Manager, Operations, Durham

$118,491.16 PONNAMBALAM BALARAJAN Consulting Technical Systems Specialist

$140,591.48 RON BARTUCCI Dir., Traffic, Customs & Excise

$105,946.28 SHEETAL BEDI Manager, Access & Privacy

$101,845.34 CATALIN BIDIAN Senior Programmer Analyst

$108,494.98 MARSHALL BIR Manager, Internal Audit

$111,911.01 DAVID BLOMMERS Manager, Information Resource Management

$112,508.37 ELAINE BLYTHE Manager, Financial Quality Assurance

$174,460.93 JACQUELINE BONIC VP, Store Development & Real Estate

$165,593.41 DON BOURRE Regional Director, Eastern Region

$269,873.86 ANDREW BRANDT Chair/CEO

$192,203.60 J . BROWNING Senior VP, Finance & Administration

$172,108.33 PETER BUCK Director, HR Services

$182,210.51 TAMARA BURNS VP, Merchandising

$108,449.17 MICHAEL BUSBY Database Administrator

$109,963.02 KATHY CANNON Category Manager, Vintages

$180,698.60 NANCY CARDINAL VP, Marketing Communications

$105,061.48 HANG-SUN CHU Senior Systems Analyst

$101,098.65 LYLE CLARKE Senior Policy Analyst

$165,547.59 R. CLEVELY Regional Director, Central Region

$108,025.02 HEATHER COLLINS Manager, End User Computing

$150,747.95 ROBERT COLLINS Director, Customer Insights

$106,592.71 ROBERT COTE GM, Ops., Conventional Warehouse

$108,146.62 LYNDA COWAL Manager, Payroll

$119,161.00 R. DAVIO Manager, Pricing Administration

$108,622.60 PATTI DAVIS District Manager

$101,112.94 PETER DEFREITAS Manager, Production Services

$112,595.94 CHRISTIANE DINI Manager, Financial Analysis

$106,940.97 DOMINIC DONATO Manager, Business Automation

$183,647.24 ROBERT DOWNEY Senior VP, Sales & Marketing

$107,422.91 M. DUENAS Senior Technical Systems Specialist

$169,062.21 R. DUTTON Dir., Financial Planning & Development

$192,203.60 ROY ECKER Senior VP, Retail Operations

$107,050.98 MICHAEL FAGAN Manager, Knowledge Resource Group

$111,479.98 CLAUDIUS FEHR Category Manager, Vintages

$134,670.07 GORDON FITZGERALD Solicitor

$189,455.06 MARY FITZPATRICK Sr. VP, General Counsel/Corp. Secretary

$113,611.54 PATRICK FORD Manager, Corporate Policy

$106,447.14 PAUL FORSYTH District Manager

$113,452.89 D. FRENCH GM, Ops., Conventional Warehouse

$111,980.84 ROBERT FRENCH District Manager

$109,529.53 ROSARITA GALATI Manager, Corporate Accounting

$106,163.49 LORETTA GREEN Manager, Employee Relations

$155,550.97 MICHAEL GREEN Solicitor

$107,134.85 MARK GREENE Director, Production

$110,219.58 J. HAFFEY Manager, Document Services

$103,732.59 MICHAEL HERMANSON Inventory Manager

$151,580.29 BRIAN HOLLOWAY Director, Applications Systems

$105,484.42 MY LAN HUYNH-LIU Senior Systems Analyst

$108,235.25 VINCE IERULLO Senior Technical Systems Specialist

$104,591.65 KAYLA JANJIC Manager, Major Project Construction

$110,132.18 DAVID JAY Systems Manager

$100,081.85 DERRICK JONES Maintenance Shift Supervisor

$110,662.53 NALINI KALLADEEN Systems Manager

$189,296.40 MURRAY KANE Senior VP, Human Resources

$189,296.40 HUGH KELLY Senior VP, Information Technology

$170,166.50 WILLIAM KENNEDY Exec. Director, Corporate Communications

$166,190.53 JOHN KER Exec. Director, Corporate Policy

$102,435.84 RAD KUZELJEVIC Sr. Mgr., Retail POS Service & Support

$111,606.69 M. LAMANTIA Senior Systems Analyst

$144,508.18 RANDI LANDY Business Unit Director

$135,485.75 JULIE LANE Solicitor

$110,376.86 NHON LE Senior Systems Analyst

$110,858.75 SUSAN LEE Manager, Financial Planning

$113,538.17 RICHARD LEGER District Manager

$104,496.88 ALLAN LOU Database Administrator

$112,792.03 CONSTANTINOS LOUKAS District Manager

$122,732.46 RAFIK LOULI Business Unit Director

$111,752.35 PAT LUMSDEN Systems Manager

$156,122.09 CAROL LYONS Controller

$155,890.83 MARALISA MACGREGOR Director, Supply Chain

$115,639.49 PAUL MANCINI District Manager

$109,440.01 JOSEPH MANNER Manager, Economic Policy & Planning

$165,593.41 DAVE MARSHALL Regional Director, Northern Region

$133,228.13 STEPHEN MARSHALL Director, Retail Service Centre

$184,609.69 JOHN MARTIN Senior VP, Logistics

$154,444.65 J. (ANDREW) MCNEE Solicitor

$112,606.75 JEFF MISENER District Manager

$110,547.65 DAVID MISETICH Inventory Manager

$158,624.13 SHARI MOGK-EDWARDS Dir., Vintages Sales & Purchasing

$136,890.38 THERESA MUTLAK Dir., Financial Reporting & Technology

$140,093.24 BARRY O'BRIEN Director, Corporate Affairs

$100,292.14 CAROLYN O'GRADY-GOLD Category Manager

$103,263.89 MIKE ORCHARD District Manager

$122,549.22 MICHAEL O'REILLY Director, Store Planning

$109,742.20 PAT PARANINFO Mgr., Accounts Payable & Receivable

$304,495.38 N. ROBERT PETER President/COO

$128,546.88 BRUNO PEZZOT Director, Real Estate

$162,521.50 BRUCE PIZZOLATO Director, Retail Service Centre

$106,069.12 ROBERT POULIN District Manager

$156,420.21 GARY RAMSAY Director, Applications Systems

$118,610.83 RICK REDWOOD Regional Director, Northern Region

$163,131.81 ALISON RENTON Solicitor

$110,211.51 VINCENT REYNOLDS Manager, Technical Support

$100,467.76 M. (KAREN) RICHARDSON-NORRIS District Manager

$160,814.78 MICHAEL RILEY Business Unit Director

$107,112.39 CHRIS ROBERTSON Category Manager

$108,766.50 TISH ROBERTSON Systems Manager

$109,933.16 DAVID ROGOZA District Manager

$121,521.91 KAREN ROSSETTI Director, Store Operations & Support

$133,195.95 KEVIN RUSSELL Director, Retail Planning

$111,722.52 LINDA SCHMIDT Inventory Manager

$103,874.35 MARK SCOBIE GM, Ops., Conventional Warehouse

$104,573.76 JOHN SKELLY Maintenance Shift Supervisor

$109,236.45 PAUL SMITH District Manager

$163,846.45 GEORGE SOLEAS VP, Quality Assurance

$148,211.20 THOMAS STANLEY Director, IT Infrastructure

$152,447.93 MIKE STEPHENS Director, Wholesale & Retail Systems

$101,670.84 PETER STRYSIO Inventory Manager

$148,083.05 SHELLEY SUTTON Director, Strategic Planning

$108,422.93 K. (DAVID) TANG Consulting Technical Systems Specialist

$111,938.96 DONALD THIBODEAU District Manager

$126,239.00 DAVID TONER District Manager

$106,447.14 SCOTT TRANTON District Manager

$140,513.13 WILLIAM TUGHAN Director, Resource Protection

$165,593.41 JIM TURNER Regional Director, Western Region

$114,923.53 MYRON TYMOCHKO District Manager

$105,696.61 MARK WAGNER Regional Manager, Human Resources

$137,052.68 R. LILA WALKER Dir., Compensation & HR Administration

$115,875.86 MELANIE WELLS Director, Integrated Marketing

$155,878.91 RICHARD WHITELAW Treasurer

$119,296.05 JOHN WILKINSON District Manager

$167,835.27 TOM WILSON VP, Vintages

$111,938.96 J. WOOD District Manager

$108,101.72 BRIAN WRIGHT Database Administrator

$116,713.60 W. YAM Senior Systems Analyst

$139,295.10 LEVON YAZEJIAN Director, General Audit

$170,516.91 WAYNE ZACHAR Director, Employee Relations

$115,385.88 YE ZHU Senior Systems Analyst
 
contrary to popular belief the mba degrees does not certify you these high salaries for the rest of your career. so stop thinking you're going to leave university with an mba degree and start thinking about the down payment on the porsche carrera. this business world, and executive levels of companies need more people with manager qualities. something your mba doesn't teach you in university.

read it.

http://www.amazon.com/Managers-Not-MBAs-Management-Development/dp/1576752755
 
you hire the college student with a diploma in management and I will hire a university grad with an mba
 
i don't think you understand.

A mba does not teach you how to be a good manager. what good is an mba when you don't know how people think. you need a kind of intuition that the mba doesn't teach you. but don't take my advice, im only the son of an executive search consultant, a.k.a. head hunter.

read the book.
 
yeah, it's ok, I'm only the son of the head dean of business at carleton and of a woman who has her mba and runs the most successful physiotherapy enterprise in ottawa.
 
what does that prove?

i don't think your parents have the inside information from CEO's on what kind of candidate that they are looking for their executive branch. you're only telling me that your parents have an mba and that they did well for themselves. big whoop, i could get into that too, but i don't like participating in pissing contests.
 
MBA's don't make leaders. It's official.

Leaders are born leaders, and the rest have rich mommies and daddies whole ply their butts with tangibles so they can afford to follow.
 
however, the advantage of having a monopoly is that we are always guaranteed quality beer and that there will always be a source, which adds an extra sense of security
 
hes right mba's dont make you good managers. In the buisness world the only way you can get places is through connections.
 
That's actually quite a lot for someone with an MBA. An MBA is very easy to get. You don't start making executive level pay right out of school, a person typically gets paid ~$60,000 out of school with an MBA. Working for the government, that person most likely has great benefits and work hours.

I do think getting an MBA is a good idea if you plan on entering the business world, it gives you a certain amount of credibility from the get go. However, experience and hard work is much more important in the great majority of business positions. I don't know why you're downplaying that much of a salary, your father certainly doesn't have a salary anywhere close to that high!
 
well long as your dad isn;t the dean that almost booted me out of residence a few years ago for sharing tons of hot sexy porn on the network!
 
and yes we pay more for liquor and beer in ontario. liquor is a much better deal in the states or quebec or duty free if you come back from a vacation or if you go buy it from the indians. beer however is a bit of a different story as its not the same product we are comparing if we go to the states. - it sucks! even canadian brands like "blue" which they advertise as "imported from canada" doesn;t taste like blue in ontario and doesn;t have the same effect ( weaker). so don;t buy american beer in the states. ( american beer thats brewed here like PBR -brewed in guelph by stroh's - is ok as its brewed in canadian tradition and gets you drunk!)

granted you can get beer of equal power at a cheaper price in quebec but unless you have another reason to go to french land i'd sure avoid it like a blazing case of herpes. - plus their labels are weird "bleue"? wtf? (i hate french)
 
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