Ahmet: raising the bar?

well put. i love video as much as the next guy but i think people sometimes overlook the skill and dedication of comp riders
 
for some reason i can't see skiing as an art really.... some people claim it as a form of expression or art, the way i see it is with art often times you are conveying a message.... i don't see skiing being a very efficient way to convey any type of message, i see it more like something to do that's alot of fun and at times competitive much like sport. Some may also argue some art is just something pretty to look at and that a video segment is something pretty to look at.... i guess there are a few ways to look at it, but i can never see skiing as a form of art or expression simply because i interperate things in a literal manner.
 
Ahmet is surely going to be the standard Chuck Norris of our industry.

Don't believe me?

Go watch one of the million ski films he's in this year and take notice he won Jibber of the Year, which I'll add wasn't even a category before IF3. Put two and two together and get four but you'll also get that they CREATED the Jibber of the Year award for Ahmet.

 
Honestly though I would much rather see a sick ski movie segment. I think movies are the best way to prove things. Comps are super important but there are a million highly famous skiers who have never won the US open or anything.
 
more realistic view for one's ability? how do you do that in one single lap in a PARK? video segments show what an individual is capable of doing, it may take a few tries but you're still needing to get the shot quick as possible for the camera to not waste tape or get something down before the spot gets blown, in the case of handrail spots and the such. making a banger video part also takes much more of a commitment than doing a comp. many people can easily spend a few days in a park and learn a run well enough to place well in a comp, where as it takes a full winter to produce a solid video segment...and if you want to argue that some segments HAVE been shot in a week, that's just laziness and usually they don't amount to much (the vanular park shoot seggy in level 1 last year is an obvious exception)
 
ya but that lap in the park (run) has probably been done by that person over 100 times before that lap (run). sure you have to put it down when it counts, but if you have done it that much, its not that hard. an example being simon, who has done that first hit 540 over 1000 times. a better all around video part is sicker in my opinion even if every trick in the seg takes 50 tries because its usually either a new trick or a trick on a new feature.
 
im gonna go out on a limb and say your makin an unfair judgement, weigh both sides of he argument evenly man.... it seems like you could go either way, but i'm gonna still be for comps mainly because you have the competitive aspect and pressure along with other aspects of sport that may not be prevelent in filming a segment.
 
HOW WERE HIS SHOTS IN ENJOY?!?!?! WERE THEY SICK... LET ME KNOW?!?!?!?! WAS THE SWITCH ON BLINDSIDE SW UP AND 270 ONTO DFD IN ENJOY?!!?!?!? lol sorry bout the caps
 
the bs sw up and such on henniger is unreal i saw it from a diff angle in april and my mind was blown, i literally sat there and watched it over and over for like 10 minutes straight
 
I wish that could be ture.

Anyway, let's go back to the topic here, there are not that many skier putting crazy segment without comp results that can make enougth money from the industry to live on it.

It is sad, it is weird, it is true.

The more I think about it, I cant think any jibber that made enought money from a bunch of crazy ass urban rail segments to live from it.

Hopefully the industry will change and people who are killing it in flicks with companies other then msp, tgr and pbp without big comps result will be able to make a decent life with skiing without having to wash dishes or make pizzas every night.

and dont think that I,m talking about myself here, I believe this industry gave and is still giving me the chance to live one of my dreams.

maybve i should stop kayaking... to much water in my brain.
 
well i think skiers who slay comps should get better pay i mean those guys tend to also have full seggys in big movies, dumont, schiller, carlson etc.... to me it seems like the guys who excel in both aspects should be makin' out pretty well
 
art as in person expression as in personal style. u cant see personal expression in rainville's blunts? or vanular's afterbang? or peps unique body position and set in a "pep roll"? I find that reallly disturbing. because the reason skiing is my life is not because it's a sport, its because its fun, i LOVE doing it. but as a sport, I think there isnt anything more important than having ur own fingerprint. without style then arent we just mogulists? all the tricks they do, they interprete literally.they dont count "style" either... just a thought...
 
i can totally see what you're talking about.....but the beauty is i still see skiing way differently than you do and the fact that people can see and interperatete things differently is one thing that makes this sport truly unique.....it is essential for the survival of this sport to have people doing different things in different ways to keep variety in the game.
 
I have this sense of respect for you because of that double switch up on that henniger rail. but your points just piss me off. Newschool skiing (or whatever you call it) is definately an art. We go out and do our own thing, reflect, we all have unique styles, just like artists. Skiing is an art.
 
i dont think art always needs to be an expression. i would say that skiing is defiantly a form of art. being creative with what is around you to work with, and doing it with your own unique style. dadali kids kill it.;
 
i have splashed the waters of both the competition pond and the film pond and gotta tell you, the one year i did half decently in competitions, all i did was ride park, hit 1 BC jump and that was it. this year i concentrated more on getting a better segment, and filming is 1000 times mroe difficult then doing well in comps. doing well in comps is doing tricks you know how to do, on jumps that are similar to what you always hit and you ahve been hitting them for days anyways, doign your run. most people that do well in comps dont show up, do there first run as there comp run and win. in the BC, getting the first hit shot is one of the sickest shots you can get, and even when you dont get that, there are only a few times you can hit that jump, not to mention the fact that you ahve to get to that jump(spend a couple grand on a sled), build it, and then hike it and all fo that work for less then 4 hits, sometimes none of them are shots. urban rails you've got so much pressure to get the shot because of cops, and more importantly in my case, fatigue. charging an urban rail as fast as you can to get a legit enough trick is deadly...that shti wears you out in no time. even park shoots at filming, theres way less presuure, but you are doing tricks that you don't necessarily know how to do or repeatedly trying ot make your tricks perfect. the pressure in comps is big, but it takes a whole year to film a segement, and i'd say a month max to win a comp. the end.
 
^^^oh your life is soo hard.

give me a fucking break

'hiking jumps is so hard' boohoo ,,all the kids on this site would kill for one day to shoot with a big company

stop whining and get some shots its your fucking job.

 
the point is that comepting and getitng shots on bc bnooter is deifferent,

I can ski park from 8:30 am to 8 pm and stop to eat without being too exhausted if i just do laps.

the thing is that when you start hiking and hiking as fast as you can cause there are factors like sunlight, cops or just time running out, you get tired way faster.

And trying to get shots when your tired is definatly just as safe as playing russian roulette, that's when most injuries happen.

 
please dont respect me because of that trick its irrelevent in this discussion man, for some reason i hate it when people do that..... be pissed at me because you don't agree with me, not everyone is going to agree with me..... haha and that came out weird not how i wanted it to sound whatever..... i think alot of it is just thinking too simply, i just go out and ski, i don't really think of it any other way, just ya know ski and fun i dunno what else to say and i know alot of people think about it differently as me and that's cool
 
Think of what you want to do on skis, and then do it. I have come up with a bunch of grinds no one has done, and its becuse I express my self in my skiing. I see things in my mind, and then I do it. Skiing is the best form of expression for me and becuse I can do what ever the fuck I want to.
 
he's saying that making a dope video part is a shitload harder than making a dope comp run...completely true.

good thing you completely missed the point though, killing it!
 
i agree with your opinion on art. im an athlete, i push myself to the limit when i ski..i do it for the adrenaline rush, for the love of the sport...i dont do it to try to "express" myself..if i wanted to do that, i'd write a poem

i ski for the excitement, the rush, just like i do when i play any other sport.
 
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