Against School

You're right I should have just taught myself all that math and taught myself physics and bought all the woodworking equipment to learn to be a carpenter. Why are we wasting time in school? Get real, if it wasn't for school everyone would be dumb as shit.
 
This is a great speech given by Sir Ken Robinson, reasoning that the current educational system kills creativity

also check out this website - that dude, sir KR, and one of my really good friends are the founders and its cool to check out at least - i do webdev work every once in a while on the site too
http://collabkit.org

Thanks for the time (and if anyone can embed that youtube link, that would be great!)

 
I always found that school is what you make of it.

Teachers are, for the most part, interested in what they teach. It's usually what they studied and therefore know about. One of my best friends/old college roommate is a history teacher. Since I was a history major as well, we can sit down and talk/debate for hours over just about anything relating to history.

The problem lies in the fact that most kids aren't as enthusiastic about the subjects. And the fault doesn't lie in the schooling, it's just the way people are. Some love history, hate math. Some love math, but hate english and so on. It's just the way they are. So you can't create these in-depth, very intricate discussion based classes when 90% of the kids won't give a shit and won't prepare for it.

The best classes I ever took were at college in london. We'd circle up the seats, and pretty much just shoot the shit for 90 minutes about whatever we read. (we had like 6 options for assigned reading per class)

But the thing is that the class was entirely composed of people who truly wanted to be there. It was only history majors who wanted to take that course. It wasn't required or a prereq course. And it was amazing.

I really think college in the US is what needs to be reformed. Why do english majors end up forced into multiple math courses? Or math majors taking art history. The rest is ok. You learn what you should know and can add to that if you so please.
 
Totally makes sense; interesting read. In health class in elementary school we were learning something about emergency response or first aid or something and I was supposed to say what I thought the definition might be of something the teacher was introducing to us. So I answered what I thought it might be and my answer may have sounded a little zany because, frankly, I had no idea what she was talking about. Anyway, I finished and she just says "get out!"

I was so taken aback by the fact that she automatically thought I was trying to make a joke or something that she would just kick me out of class cause I was a good student and had never been a smartass or anything. Luckily a friend stepped in and said he didn't think I was joking and she didn't even apologize, just said that I was wrong and went on explaining it.

It was the epitome of what is wrong with some teachers. Asking a kid why is far more important than just saying how. Learning basic skills is important, but there is a bit of a factory feel of the education system, but that's also down to the skill of the teacher--I've had some very good ones and some very bad ones, and the individual makes all the difference.
 
Disagree. You clearly didn't read the article. Skimming doesn't count either. Your post implies that understanding math, physics, and woodwork are mandatory for every individuals happiness and growth. I would argue quite the opposite. Having to learn those things and not being given time or materials to understand other more important things in life rob people of the opportunity to develop interesting and satisfactory lives, not to mention the ability to think creatively. Thinking creatively is more applicable to life as well because life itself is unpredictable and requires a flexible mind.

What happens when people are forced to learn things like calculus and are brainwashed into thinking that it is so important that they won't function without it? You have people doing a mediocre job. If those people are so brainwashed to pursue careers that involve calculus but aren't interested in it you have people performing poorly. If people are given the flexibility and environment to develop their own interests, they will find interesting things and do them much better.

That being said, I taught myself a semester of Calculus in college. Suck it.

 
Did you read what I was quoting? I'm glad I was taught the things I got taught in school. They definitely help me in life. I was using sarcasm. That girls comment was in my eyes, rediculous.
 
Just wanted to say thank you for posting this. Was reading it yesterday and I go into my College Writing final exam today, lo and behold we had to analyze an essay and it was this same fucking essay! What the fuck are the odds of that!? anyway just wanted to say thanks for giving me a head start homie, A+ for me haha.
 
Ridiculous* should have learned to spell too.

And I did read what you quoted and agree with what that girl said. She was essentially reiterating a small part of what the main article stated. We aren't really taught to think critically or creatively in school and your fondness of math and physics certainly doesn't prove otherwise. Our being taught to be mindless consumer drones doesn't mean we aren't taught to become scientists and in no way did the girl say that.

MAIN POINT: The article didn't say that teachers aren't important for certain things. It stated that the way they teach doesn't foster critical, creative, analytical thinking. Go read the article and think about it.
 
hows that for ya? but i actually read it lol.
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This.

Story:

I have a cousin. I'd go ahead and say his IQ is around 140. He taught himself C++ programming at age 13 or so. Is now better at it than most professionals and has started making games etc. Kid's a straight genius. Very good with chemistry and blowing stuff up, very good with electricity and makes the coolest experimental devices/tesla coils.

His high school average: 78

His SATs: Average

 
I read it too. Thought it was interesting. I hated high school, for most of these reasons however I do appreciate some of it's benefits. I like your insight, your very correct.
 
that video was dumb as fuck yeah if you have an idea like FB or apple and know what you want to do you don't need college. the real reason people go to school is because they have no idea how they will make there money/what they want to do with their life. unless of course your job you want to do needs you to have some higher education.
 
I'm not against school, but wished it was more focused towards what I was good at. Heck, I could have been fully educated at a younger age. Unfortunately that kind of schooling requires money, and I don't think a lot of people can afford that optimal learning environment for their children. It's a shame, really...
 
Goodnight Ar6.

It's a good quote and it was actually related to the above post. Go sit on a sealed beer bottle.
 
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