Afraid to get rockers?

andrew.

andrew.

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so heres my dilemma, i ski on the east coast (northwest ct to be specific), so the few pow days that us east coasters get arent shared by me. this winter im looking to make a trip out west to ski some real pow for once in my life, but i dont know how well my STLs will handle a few feet of fresh. so im now in the market to buy new skis. i want something that will perform well in the powder, but also something that will be fun to use on the east coast. The only thing that readily comes to mind if the infamous reno rocker. it sounds like exactly what i want in a ski, but im still scared. i dont know how well the rocker will be in like 3 inches of hardpacked slush at my home mountain. so if anyone wants to tell me their stories of rockered skis in slushy hardpack and manmade snow, please do so. or you could recommend a new ski for my needs, either way, i need some help here.

CLIFNOTES: im looking to make a trip out west, so i need a ski that will perform well in powder, as well as ct slushy parks. considering reno rockers and need help deciding.

STATS: im around 6'1 on a good day, and i have 190lbs to throw around, so i dont need any noodly invaders or anything. im a pretty strong skier. i can hold my own on groomers and enjoy all those snow ramps and grinding on rails, i even go sideways some times! so i need my ski to perform in the park too.

nooww, GO NS, pick my ski!
 
K2 kung-fujas
Armada ARV
Line Blend

the reno rocker is a good choice too, but if you don't want rocker... see above^
 
try to find a ski that's cheap. After skiing on something skinny for your whole life, a superfat ski is going to just feel...weird. Sick in powder, but it will be a different ski style for you.

I suggest you check out last year's Rossi Steeze. You can probably get those at a relatively cheaper price now with clearance sales going on. I am a lot smaller than you and I tried them and I really like them despite being stiff for me and too long, but I think they'd be just right for someone my dad's size, which is around where you are.
 
Or the Boone pow/park ski which would work for you both out west and east (93mm underfoot) but it might be a bit short for you at 180cm in the longer size. Personally, I think you'd be pretty well off with those, it really depends on what kind of ski and length you're on now. But they fit exactly what you want in a ski and you won't need rocker. I just realized you're using the ski out east too and a pair of Steezes would not really be the best option for that...

PM me or DingoSean if you want details.
 
allow me to be the first to say: hellbents.

or EP pros but they may be a bit too soft for your weight.
 
ill definately look into the boones a bit more, im interested now, but i was wondering more how rockered skis perform in the park. the way i see it, i have my everyday ski which is my STL, so if i get something thats generally the same thing but wider, itll almost be a waste of money. so im actually kind of interested in the boones, but i still want to hear more about the rockers.
 
i would get an all mountain twin, like the k2 obsethed, line sir Francis bacon, line profit 100, k2 kungfujas, or the nordica zero. all will do fine on the ice and they all rip in the pow
 
im the same size as you and all i ski is 193 pimps, if you think you NEED rockers the 4 frnt ehp seems to be the best blend of rocker/0 camber, but neither of these are really for the weak
 
something in the mid 90s underfoot

i wouldn't go any skinnier than anthems

reno rockers would probably be good for you

but maybe the tahoes too?
 


You don't need to be afraid of rockered skis. They're the best. Of course it's easy for me to say try to demo before you buy. Maybe you don't have that option.
 
yea i valways been crious to as to what rockered skis feel like and if they carve well on ice and hardpack like eastcoast conditions
 
ARV
Tahoe
Kung Fujas
Hazmat

they all have a waist width between 94 and 96. no of these have rocker, so carving up the EC and whtnot will be just as good. but, they will be great in powder because of the width and flex
 
4frnt vct
line elizebeth

i tried the vct's last year on a powder day and the were amazing compared to my invaders and they were good on the grommers to.
 
then what do you consider the obsehted?

I would try to pick up a pair of last years seths, great hardpack performace, fun in the park, and good in pow
 
Bacons, sidecut allows them to slay groomers and park, and width is fat enough (115) for deep pow, I rode mine in chest deep this year and they killed it, and then I even ride them in the park, they are so much fun in the park. Such sick skis.
 
The boone 93's would probally kill it on the east coast. Bamboo is light, and really energetic. It also lays down a really good edge. They would be money...

Plus, its so freaking light that it puts most skis its size to shame, as well as the bulkier park skis.
 
THE SCOTT P4 -> anything, anytime,anywhere !

Its fat, its bomber, and its graphics are uber-cool

(IMHO, the 2008 model with the tree 'n the skier is the coolest ski-graphic out there...)

I myself have been thinking about rockered ski as well, i hear theyre great for powder and even fun on groomers, but in the end i decided to got with the Scott p4 because it isnt really rockered, but it has this progressive tip 'n tail, meaning your tips lift very early, so on groomers, it skis like a short agile ski while in pow-wow you ski a full-blood 181 or 191

(i myself have the 181 because i do alot of park in it as well...)

Only downside is the weight, its a heavy ski, making it harder to swing around during rotations or on rails, but it isnt impossible, with some dedication you can even rock park on these babys

( i even find rails easier with these then on narrow twins, because your base is bigger (wider) and you just have much more stability...)

Have fun with your new skis, i would definately would get a p4 again if these babies ever break down... IF they break down ;)
 
i'm east coast as well and i picked up some reno rockers, i'm the same height as you but i weight 165 not 190, i think you'd find the rockers to be too soft for all mountain. but the rocker on them is not huge, but i have heard really good things about the years armada jp juliens, check those out if you want rockered skis
 
rocker sucks and is the worst thing to happen to skiing. the only use is landing backwards in powder.

rockered skis make you ski shitty, you look like you have broken skis in the lift line, u do a smear turn and take 10 feet of freshies off the mountain, the skis help compensate for lack of skill and technique needed to ski powder.

early rise is dope and that should be the extent of it, so you can stay on your skis and not sink a tip in the ultra deep
 
Not true. Listen to Shane McConkey and he explains it all. Powder has more of a water-like consistency, way more light and fluid. Look at a surfboard. If you had a ski-camber surfboard it would suck. The same goes with skiing powder with rockered skis.

Soooo you should probably reconsider what you just said. Sure, rockered skis may compromise the ability to shred on hard snow or are a bit unbalanced, but there is no reason not to consider a thinner rockered ski for playing around with in the park or possibly for powder, since you don't need a super wide ski to ski a bit of powder at times if you have the rocker already. I mean, a full fat rocker ski is definitely NOT ideal for the east, but it would be fun for taking trips out west and for playing around on the mountain. Personally, I'd love to have a rockered fat ski but I just don't have the funds to buy 2 pairs of skis in one season.
 
the obsethed's are a backcountry/big mountain/powder ski with the ability to go on piste some days.The skis are perfect for a place with consistent snowfall and many powder days, but not so perfect for taking out every single day. I mean...what terrain does Seth ride mostly/prefer to ride? Not moguls or groomers...

An all-mountain ski is more like the Line Chronic. Less fat, so it has more edge-to-edge control, initiations/releases of turns are easier, and the ski is stiffer for the higher degree of pressure from the harder snowpack, but also wide enough to float on a couple inches of fresh.

Last years Seths are definitely more of an all-mountain ski, albeit still geared toward backcountry riding.
 
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