ADVICE///HELP on ski worth stuff

djmustard

djmustard

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yo NS, so ive never made a thread like this before so I wasnt really sure what forum to got to but ANYWAY. so I sold this pair of 157 line masterminds, to this guy, and they had normal cosmetic topsheet damage, nothing bad there, and the guy asked if they had any edge cracks and I was pretty sure they didnt cause I only used them for a very short season, and didnt go hard on them at all, (It was my first season skiing)...... and after I knew I was done skiing on them I put a generous wax layer on the bases to keep the bases hydrated and whatever..,.,.,., anyway, so I go check for edge cracks for this guy, and after a pretty close inspection I had determined that they had no edge cracks. so as far as the condition I told this guy they were 7/10 condition aside from the fact that they had been mounted three times, otherwise the bases were practically perfect except some slightly deeper (not core) "gashes" behind the heel piece of the bindings of the skis from doing trannies on my PVC setup (which i decided wasnt a big deal so I just said the bases were in pretty good condition and had a couple moderately deeper "gashes" WHICH could be SUPER EASILY filled in with a little p-tex if anyone is worried about it at all)

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ON TO THE STORY, so we determined that $70 was a fair price seeing that they are a couple years old, in not the best condition, and because we both live in NH and could do a local pick up deal, so over the weekend I met him and sold him the skis for $70 and he just texted me and said he was slightly disappointed because he found an edge crack and I didnt tell him about "the gauges" so we talked about it for a little bit and I told him That I honestly did not see the edge crack and the "the gauges" were kind of insignificant so I made a judgment call to not go into too much detail about the bases and just say they were decent with a couple deeper "gashes" and we decided that he wasnt really worried about "the gauges" cause he could easily fix them and mostly he was worried about the "edge crack" so I asked him to send a picture of it and here it is:

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so I kind of said "im sorry man about that, I honestly dont think it will affect anything at all and again im sorry bout that, but not much I can (or want) to do. And he said he agrees that its not a super big deal, but they are for his girlfriend cause he is planning a touring trip, and he is worried about it because here is exactly what he said: "Because when you are outside the park if you hit something like a rock that edge is now much more likely to break out" so I said I understand, your right, but I still think its highly unlikely that that little edge crack is going to put anyone in a situation that they REALLY dont want to be in especially for a pair of $70 dollar skis, but still he guilt tripped me, and at the end of this he said:

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And personally I dont think its not worth $20 if im only getting $70 for the skis but I was wondering what you guys think? gimmie your opinion!! also! this is the first time I have ever been questioned by a dissatisfied customer, I have no even remotely bad feedback, and I ABSOLUTELY DONT WANT TO CHANGE THAT, but yeah, I havnt said anything back yet, and would love to here your guys' feedback on this situation

 
Tell the guy to fuck off! the skis were sold as is! If he picked them up and took a good look at them, its his bad. Don't send him a dime. Its $20. Tell him if he doesn't want them to come back over and drop them off. the gas money alone will be the $20 right there. One small edge crack is in no way a big deal and besides you have no way of knowing if he went home flexed the shit out of the skis and cracked the edge himself. Call his bluff and tell him to piss off.
 
Those skis are pretty beat defiantly not 7/10 I would say 4 or 5, you use them on a summer set up so they are going to be pretty beat. The bases need a grind and some shops may refuse to do it because of the crack although they would prob be fine to go through. Overall though 70 is not a bad price but I do think you over estimated the condition, but he had te chance to not pay when he collected. Offer to take them back an return his money or he keeps them for what he paid.
 
If he wants to use line mastermind for a touring set up for his GF, he doesn't even know what hes talking about.

If your more worried about it affecting your rating go ahead and pay him (especially if it's just the ski, your not losing money for selling line masterminds second hand). If it's with a good binding I'd say take the road bud that's $100 binding.

But it's only $20 to settle a problem with a pair a skis you dont use. And you get 50.
 
woah woah woah, shops refuse to do base grinds because of edge cracks? I have never heard that one before, especially looking at my own experiences.

Also 4/10 would be a good estimation based on the 3 mounts, not sure if you sold with bindings but if not, it completely sucks for the buyer, again his fault for agreeing to buy a beat pair of skis.

I would say fuck him though, if he did the local pick-up and didn't check them over before buying it's his problem.
 
^ yep if your edge is all cracked they more often then not would refuse to send them through a grinder. The edge could get pulled up and fuck a hundred thousand dollar machine. Chances are it would not happen but if I paid a 100k for a wintersteiger I would not take the risk either.
 
I did sell them WITHOUT bundings, and I was sort of meaning that aside from the ski being mounted three times they are in pretty good condition, I mean like these skis are in the same condition most everyone here is riding aside from the mount situation, One very small edge crack, a couple small insignificant base flaws and some top sheet damage that doesn't affect anything, I mean that's like your typical NSer's park ski, am I wrong? Plus I honestly don't want to send this guy $20 cause I would love to have that extra money, what does everyone think?
 
^ its not that there in really bad condition there just pretty beat. If you need any filling doing to a base then you can't exactly say its good condition. And yeah you only have one edge crack but you can see in that pic that its starting to come up and looks like there may be more damage going on next to the edge on the base. There just not 7/10 that's what we were trying to say. You ask people opinion and it seems you overestimated the condition. But as a few of us have said be paid for them. He should have inspected them when he picked them up so its his issue too.
 
I have mixed feelings here. The first being that "caveat emptor" also known as buyer beware, he should have inspected and been satisfied with the condition before accepting and paying.

The other part of me is that you represented the goods as being "7/10 no edge cracks" when in fact they are more like a Solid 7/10 and have a crack.

For the sake of 20 bucks you could just suck it up and give the guy his money. Or perhaps offer to meet half-way - you refund him $10. At least he's not demanding a full refund or anything like that.
 
I'm gonna point out one thing. He bought skis with 3 mounts and is worried about an edge crack. I get that there is a slightly higher risk of a pullout, but on a touring trip I would be way more concerned about the binding pulling out. And the fact that you would most likely have to mount pretty far back from recommended on near symmetrical ski. An edge pull out you can still ski on, a binding pull out you cant
 
which is what I warned him about when selling him the skis, I stressed to him that "These skis will be a pretty good ski as long as you have the resources to get them mounted, because many shops are weird about that." and he totally accepted the the fact that they had three mounts and still even when I talked to him about the edge crack and such, he still has not mentioned any thing having to do with the mounting situation, he is really only concerned about the tiny edge crack.
 
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