Advice for buying a new car !

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I'm looking at Tacomas right now as well as the WRX. Leaning towards the Tacoma though as I want to buy a sled next season.
 
God damn I'm becoming too old and slow to post my picture...

I'll try and not break the internet this time when posting how the Volvo CX70 exerts complete and utter vehicular dominance over other road going peasants:

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Oh, please. The average European drives an ultra subcompact, 2 door diesel and is happy with it because they don't know shit about cars. Europe may know how to build cars, but the people who live there sure don't know how to appreciate them. Classic American, my ass. He's just an idiot or trolling.
 
As for some actual advice...don't buy a Subaru unless it's an STI (even the STI blows in the snow compared to a decent truck/SUV with snows though), don't buy a used Audi unless it has CPO warranty, and generally ignore all car advice from NS. If you want an affordable car with decent room and that will perform well in snow, look at recent Grand Cherokees or something. The whole Subaru/Audi/Volvo spiel is so played out and 90% of NS hasn't even driven any of those makes. Of those choices, I'd probably go Volvo, assuming you're not worried about looks.
 
im calling shenanigans. that makes no sense and you know it. there is undoubtedly just as enthusiastic of a car culture in europe as there is in america.
 
I disagree, I have driven both 2.5i imprezas and wrx's and own the wrx, and the subarus could get out of almost anything that a truck could. The only problem is that since its lower the clearance is a factor, but i mean it's a car vs a truck, its going to happen.
 
I drive the exact Subaru I posted in here and it's not even my first Subaru. Both are awesome in snow. Yeah if there's too much snow and I don't have clearance it's going to be a problem, but I didn't buy my car to cater towards one specific situation I didn't even encounter living in a ski town.

There's a reason you see so many Subarus in New England.
 
Haha I was just making an overly generalized statement to counter his "lol typical American" post. Of course I don't actually believe that, just pointing out how stupid his post was.
 
The fact that you waste time trying to arrange stickers on your rear window so they look cool also makes any argument you present invalid.
 
I'm whippin an Acura MDX 2001. Thing trucks through the snow. Anything in the MDX series is great in snow.
 
i changed my mind OP this is the car you 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To OP, Lord knows I am a huge outback fangirl, but honestly there's a reason why. Best ski car I've ever owned/ driven. Plenty of Clarence,low CG, get you up to the mountain fast if you need to go up a 2 lane road. They will do 98% of what an SUV will off-road as well. proof:

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I would recommend an 03' or an 07' depending on your budget.
 
classic AR6. DNT GET SUBARU BCUS JEEPS AND TRUCKS

some people have budgets. You think this girl needs some high performance fun car. And maybe she even wants good gas mileage. I loved my first car, a 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee, but it was also a fucking nightmare. The heater and AC were fucked, and since it was a sealed block with a coolant line running through the middle, my engine self imploded and no more jeep.

But its not just me. I'm from Sedona and all we do for fun is 4 wheel and downhill bike. And all the affordable Grand Cherokee's from 1995-2002 have serious issues once they go over 100k(ish). Some models have tranny issues, some have block issues like mine did, and they all get 15 MPG on a great day. It was a great off road fuck around car, but it wasn't a good ski/everyday car. If you can find an older volvo, you are golden. But outbacks are a great car for what you want and can be found pretty cheap. Same with audi's. They aren't going to be perfect, but they are a whole hell of a lot more reliable than a fucking grand Cherokee.

And AR6, either me or someone in my family has owned all of these other than an awd volvo. I've driven one STI, and it was fun, but past that i really havent driven a tuned or modded car. So if you want that listen to AR6. If you want a good car that won't break down, looks decent, can move in snow, and is moderately priced, listen to anyone else.
 
get an acura TSX with snow tires. It's been my ride for the last 4 years in Colorado through snow and in the oilfields which have roads much less maintained than I70. Seriously, why do people feel they need AWD for freeway and paved roads and parking lots that are regularly plowed?

I had to help dig two Subarus out last week because they think because they have AWD they don't need snow tires. Until they lose traction and slide into the ditch

Snow tires much more valuable than AWD, And AWD takes up gas mileage and takes away power.
 
But but but what about VW's tho? Liek cum on, they r greaht in the snow, super relieable, and the best bang 4 ur buck. Same with outties and bee-em-double u's. so tight.
 
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