A Trick Guide: The difference between bio, cork, d-spin, misty, rodeo and the ambiguous underflip

im just kinda adding stuff here, correct me if i am wrong...

UNDERFLIP

not a backflip 180, but rather a 90, followed by a lincoln loop up the hill (head faces jump followed by feet) to another 90, landing backwards. see niklas karlstrom in teddybear crisis up the step-up, or in X off of a small snowbank.

OVERFLIP

baisically the opposite of an underflip, commonly mistaken for a misty 5. 90, lincoln loop downhill (feet face jump followed by head) to another 90, landing backwards. see mike wilson in ready, fire, aim or in superpark 2.
 
you know what, there are so many variations of rodeos and flatspins that we cant really classify them all. call it what it looks like to you
 
Video's help immensly here, I'd suggest you both find some good examples of what you mean so we can all chime in.
 
Exactly right. In TBC(I think Nik Karlstrom shares a segment with Becker) he throws what I understand to be a perfect underflip. I think the difference between underflip and overflip is just whether or not the lincoln loop goes with the first 90 degree turn.
 
you've got it right.

although imo when i throw a rodeo i throw back of the jump and drop my left sholder to set the rotation off the axis.

to set a flatspin i concentrate on the rotation and let myself sort of drift to flat. that doesn't make a whole lot of sense but it feels different neways.

some of your rodes i would class as flat BUT it's a sliding sale and a tweaked grab will change the look of a trick so much.

for under and over flips check shane mcconkey from a few years ago i forget which movie... they are similar to mistys and rodeos but NOT off axis. 90-lincoln-90. under is leftside lincoln. over is rightside lincoln (assuiming you spin to the left).
 
http://www.orageski.com/en/team/team_2_video.html

This was messaged to me today, watch Corey Vanular's first hit. Perfect Flatspin 720, you can see how he doesnt get completely inverted at any point in the air, and remains more on his side. I'll see if I can make a video of this so you wont have to link to the Orage site. Revisions will occur this weekend, once I get some time back in my life. Being sick on finals week sucks.
 
Flat does not equal rodeo. We've already discussed this. See above.

The way the rotation thing works with 180's and 540's is that the actual flipping rotation counts as 360 degrees. So then the last 180 is added to that. It's pretty wierd but if you watch their whole body it DOES rotate 540.
 
I turned off itunes now they work...hmmmm

itunes on...they no work...itunes off, they work.

someone help me with the connection here
 
I see a flatspin as when the skiier is laying on their side in the air, and essentially doing backflips like this. Tanner does a good one in his part in SM3.
 
Good post.

Yes, an underflip is set like you would a lincoln, except you set it behind you a little, so it throws you around 180 degrees throughout the lincoln, making you land switch.
 
He doesn't like golfswing that one though, he like baseball swings it. I see what you mean though.

that trick is so confusing.
 
Well, if it makes it any easier, he got his head below his feet, so he was inverted, which is rodeo. It's too bad a lot of you kids can't water ramp in the Summer...that's how you find out what trick is what in a hurry.
 
Yeah I definitely saw the rodeo-ness of it.

I wish I could get to some water ramps. Trampolines are not doin it for me.
 
The best way to think about underflips is setting it like a lincoln loop but instead of looking at the horizon when you rotate, look back at your feet and you will land switch.
 
UNDERFLIP- 90 degree rotation to lincoln loop to 90 degree rotation (note that the lincoln loop is thrown down to the left if you spin lift and visa versa so that the lincoln loop flips under as opposed to an overflip which is 90 to lincoln (thrown over) to 90, watch pete O's overflip)
 
if you want a flat spin just check out dave bishop in 7up i beleive, he does a forward flatspin so nice and perfect or really i guess you could check the blue mountain triple challenge videos, he has that shit dialed 5s and 7s, they are sweet ass flat spins!
 
After reading the first page I was going to say that. You're right on. Thank you for clearing that up.
 
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