you're an idiot or you're 11 years old like most the kids on this site...you missed the entire point of this thread which was to show that they ARE only 13-14 out...JC, do us a favor and read the whole thread before you post like wildfire, which is probably a good indication why you have 8000 more posts than anyone else. The line drawn above at the 20 was to show how unproportional things get really quick with a downward angle involved with the measurement of height...i'm sick of people not reading.