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not much side cut eh seaners?
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''huckbunni, i would appreciate it if you never ever, spoke again, becuase quite frankly your comments are wasted megabytes that would literally be better used to show videos of a cat playing with string.'' -APE
snowsnowsnow
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did u use MAYA to make those??
hoose is a p i m p
hoose is a p i m p
Brit1275
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what the fuck is maya?
none of you worry your little heads about what this is, you'll find out soon enough.
and kevin, 130/100/120... that's PLENTY of sidecut, just hard to tell from the pictures, but its there.
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none of you worry your little heads about what this is, you'll find out soon enough.
and kevin, 130/100/120... that's PLENTY of sidecut, just hard to tell from the pictures, but its there.
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Brit1275
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oh, and kevin, wanna work for me Tuesday the 14th?
I'm going *somewhere*... you know where.... you can't come though, just me he said. Aparently they want me to do some packaging for shipping as a trade, fine by me.
Can anyone say summer internship?!?!?!?!
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I'm going *somewhere*... you know where.... you can't come though, just me he said. Aparently they want me to do some packaging for shipping as a trade, fine by me.
Can anyone say summer internship?!?!?!?!
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fuck you i wanna go!!!!!!! but i guess i'll work cause im a poor mother fuckin bastid
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''huckbunni, i would appreciate it if you never ever, spoke again, becuase quite frankly your comments are wasted megabytes that would literally be better used to show videos of a cat playing with string.'' -APE
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''huckbunni, i would appreciate it if you never ever, spoke again, becuase quite frankly your comments are wasted megabytes that would literally be better used to show videos of a cat playing with string.'' -APE
hUcKbUnNi3
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so.....seans designing a ski? is that what i'm supposed to be pulling from all this mumbo jumbo?
yay.snow.yay
yay.snow.yay
dylanflint
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how are you supposed to ski on something that has an arched bottom
it kinda has to be flat dont it
http://erpdflint.fateback.com/xfaf
it kinda has to be flat dont it
http://erpdflint.fateback.com/xfaf
skier_boy26
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new skis are slightly arched...
sean designing cool ski
sean designing cool ski
yeah, skis are arched these days, where the hell have you been?
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''huckbunni, i would appreciate it if you never ever, spoke again, becuase quite frankly your comments are wasted megabytes that would literally be better used to show videos of a cat playing with string.'' -APE
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''huckbunni, i would appreciate it if you never ever, spoke again, becuase quite frankly your comments are wasted megabytes that would literally be better used to show videos of a cat playing with string.'' -APE
Brit1275
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I didn't want to make the effort of having the edges wrap all the way around the tip, so i only did a short section (or two actually) that are straight, thats why it stops before the ski bends up.
of course, the edges will really go tip-to-tip, but this is just for fun.
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of course, the edges will really go tip-to-tip, but this is just for fun.
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Dont worry, its a controlled slide.
laughdamon
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dude is that carbon fiber?
$1080PLP$
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that top sheet looks like that materal you use under rugs, wait it is! super sticky top sheets SWEET.
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When I was 15 i found a mole on my neck and i knew then that I should try to make a living skiing... - Eric Pollard
thank you mommy, may i have another? - *andy*
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When I was 15 i found a mole on my neck and i knew then that I should try to make a living skiing... - Eric Pollard
thank you mommy, may i have another? - *andy*
laughdamon
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carbon fiber's pretty brittle.. hard to break, but it doesnt like to bend very much. Good luck!
laughdamon
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hahaha, nope never jumped on a hood... I dunno if thats the hood bending, or the hardware supporting it.... ah now that I think about it, thin peices are pretty bendable, i still dont know about a hood though..
$1080PLP$
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i've watched vid of a carbon fiber hood being jumped on and it rebounded fast. not saying its good for the hood. but with the right type of supports the carbon fiber could be on of the best topsheet/core idea, i know some company already makes something like i discribed above and uses foam to fill in the air pockets in the support structure. they were also super expensive.
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who is the furious five? I thought you knew- its me and my 4 other split personalities that believe apestead should be castrated - oO~sKiErGirL~Oo
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who is the furious five? I thought you knew- its me and my 4 other split personalities that believe apestead should be castrated - oO~sKiErGirL~Oo
laughdamon
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Yeah I guess it depends on how it gets laid...
^Just like your mother
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Brit1275
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ahhhh, leave it to Rowen to RUIN a perfectly normal and mature conversation.
Alright, I wanted to keep this secret till I was finished, but I'm too excited about it.
Basically, I want some really fat skis, but can't afford new ones (Motherships are what I really want).
So I'm making my own skis. They will be 170cm in length, and have nose/waist/tail dimensions of 130/100/120
Wood core, wrapped in fiberglass, and then topsheeted in carbon fiber. The carbon fiber will make them VERY stiff, maybe too stiff, but I'll find out. I am worried about the carbon fracturing though, so I'm also *thinking* about carbon/kevlar weave, which has more flex, but I don't know. I like the look and strength of the straight up carbon.
I've actually got the backing and support of a major ski manufacturer, who will remain nameless for the time being. I am being provided with base and edge material from them, as well as pointers, etc to ski manufacturing, so this isn't just some crazy bullshit idea that won't pan out, its coming together!
The carbon skis you mentioned are made by Goode, but they are like thousands of dollars, and I think have carbon cores too, which is why they're so pricey. I won't be vacuum bagging or autoclaving mine (using pre-preg carbon), I'm doing a straight wet-layup, for ease and expense of manufacturing. I'll post updates and this goes on. Looking to *possibly* have these done by the end of winter break.
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Dont worry, its a controlled slide.
Alright, I wanted to keep this secret till I was finished, but I'm too excited about it.
Basically, I want some really fat skis, but can't afford new ones (Motherships are what I really want).
So I'm making my own skis. They will be 170cm in length, and have nose/waist/tail dimensions of 130/100/120
Wood core, wrapped in fiberglass, and then topsheeted in carbon fiber. The carbon fiber will make them VERY stiff, maybe too stiff, but I'll find out. I am worried about the carbon fracturing though, so I'm also *thinking* about carbon/kevlar weave, which has more flex, but I don't know. I like the look and strength of the straight up carbon.
I've actually got the backing and support of a major ski manufacturer, who will remain nameless for the time being. I am being provided with base and edge material from them, as well as pointers, etc to ski manufacturing, so this isn't just some crazy bullshit idea that won't pan out, its coming together!
The carbon skis you mentioned are made by Goode, but they are like thousands of dollars, and I think have carbon cores too, which is why they're so pricey. I won't be vacuum bagging or autoclaving mine (using pre-preg carbon), I'm doing a straight wet-layup, for ease and expense of manufacturing. I'll post updates and this goes on. Looking to *possibly* have these done by the end of winter break.
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skier_boy26
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keeping the compnay nameless eh? spiffy. that is quite the hand made ski sean, quite the ski.
any LEDs or something?
any LEDs or something?
laughdamon
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hmm k2 is in the area, there couldnt be a coincidence could there?
Oh yea, if its gonna be wrapped in fiberglass, is there even a need for carbon fiber, becides the coolness of it?
Oh yea, if its gonna be wrapped in fiberglass, is there even a need for carbon fiber, becides the coolness of it?
he wants them super stiff. i say only have one layer of fiberglass (instead of two, ie wrapped) cause i still think they'll be too stiff if you do two layers of fiberglass and a layer/topsheet of carbon fiber.
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''huckbunni, i would appreciate it if you never ever, spoke again, becuase quite frankly your comments are wasted megabytes that would literally be better used to show videos of a cat playing with string.'' -APE
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''huckbunni, i would appreciate it if you never ever, spoke again, becuase quite frankly your comments are wasted megabytes that would literally be better used to show videos of a cat playing with string.'' -APE
oh yeah sean, what the fuck? you make me hold my mouth this whole time then you just blurt it out randomly? poor form. poor form
hungry hungry hippos!!!
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''huckbunni, i would appreciate it if you never ever, spoke again, becuase quite frankly your comments are wasted megabytes that would literally be better used to show videos of a cat playing with string.'' -APE
hungry hungry hippos!!!
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''huckbunni, i would appreciate it if you never ever, spoke again, becuase quite frankly your comments are wasted megabytes that would literally be better used to show videos of a cat playing with string.'' -APE
laughdamon
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ah ha! What you should do is not have tight weaves, that way it will bend, and you'll still have that look... So just think, thick weaves
skier_boy26
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word kevin, i knew the shit too.
hungry hungry hippos, right on
hungry hungry hippos, right on
hUcKbUnNi3
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sean that is so awesome! i dont understand how a ski company will just give you materials to make a ski, and help you out...thats not normal for me...but you and your genius engineering mind....
yay.snow.yay
yay.snow.yay
Brit1275
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I think my position at school helps (just saying I'm in the Aeronautics and Astronautics Department.... most people don't even know what that is, I have to explain that its rocket science (cause it actually is)).
Most ski companies were not willing to help me in any way, but one was. Again, nameless for now, I'm sure they don't want a bunch of people trying to get free stuff from them (I'm not getting it TOTALLY free), so I'm going to respect their anonimity for now.
Suffice it to say, they are so fucking kick ass, and awesome to be helping me out like this. (It's not Line, they wouldn't tell me shit other than 'Our edges come from Germany')
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Most ski companies were not willing to help me in any way, but one was. Again, nameless for now, I'm sure they don't want a bunch of people trying to get free stuff from them (I'm not getting it TOTALLY free), so I'm going to respect their anonimity for now.
Suffice it to say, they are so fucking kick ass, and awesome to be helping me out like this. (It's not Line, they wouldn't tell me shit other than 'Our edges come from Germany')
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Brit1275
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Now that this is open, I invite you all to give me ideas and feedback (keep it serious rowen - NORTON).
I'm only doing one layer of carbon fiber, and its not pre-preg, so it won't be all THAT much stiffer than an equivalent layer of fiberglass.
I have a few options here. My original plan, was doing two full wraps of fiberglass around the core. One with the fibers oriented parallel and perpendicular to the ski (for lengthwise rigidity), and the second wrap being oriented at 45 degrees, for torsional rigidity.
Another option, is instead of wrapping the core, just sandwiching it with a layer of fiberglass on top, and another on bottom. This while have half the fiberglass as before. With wrapping, on any given side of the core, there is TWO layers of fiberglass, where as with sandwiching it, there is only one on top, one on bottom. This won't seal up the core as well, but will be lighter weight, and not as stiff.
For the topsheet, I can either do a flat lay on top (sandwich) or wrap the whole top (cap-construction as the buzz-word is). Doing the cap will make it VERY stiff, because of the carbon fiber that is vertical on the side. Doing just the flat lay on top won't be quite as stiff, but then I have to deal with sidewall, and am more likely to de-laminate or get water in there.
The optimal weight-to-stiffness option (which I kinda want a light-stiff ski), is thus:
Single layers of fiberglass top and bottom, with cap carbon on top. BUT, this way I'm putting most of the flex absorption in the carbon fiber and not the fiberglass, which is a bad idea. I don't want to depend on the carbon for the flex rebound, I want most of it taken up in the fiberglass, so I don't crack the carbon.
So, the other option is doing full wrapped fiberglass with sandwich top. This is probably the best, but again, I gotta figure out the sidewall.
But tyler, you're right about the hoods. I've seen videos of hoods being driven over, jumped on, etc. They are very resiliant(sp?). As long as I do a good job of the layup, I shouldn't need to worry. The problem comes from having any air bubbles, cause that's where the weakness will come. And unfortunately, I won't be vacuum bagging it, so I REALLY gotta do a good job to ensure no bubbles.
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Dont worry, its a controlled slide.
I'm only doing one layer of carbon fiber, and its not pre-preg, so it won't be all THAT much stiffer than an equivalent layer of fiberglass.
I have a few options here. My original plan, was doing two full wraps of fiberglass around the core. One with the fibers oriented parallel and perpendicular to the ski (for lengthwise rigidity), and the second wrap being oriented at 45 degrees, for torsional rigidity.
Another option, is instead of wrapping the core, just sandwiching it with a layer of fiberglass on top, and another on bottom. This while have half the fiberglass as before. With wrapping, on any given side of the core, there is TWO layers of fiberglass, where as with sandwiching it, there is only one on top, one on bottom. This won't seal up the core as well, but will be lighter weight, and not as stiff.
For the topsheet, I can either do a flat lay on top (sandwich) or wrap the whole top (cap-construction as the buzz-word is). Doing the cap will make it VERY stiff, because of the carbon fiber that is vertical on the side. Doing just the flat lay on top won't be quite as stiff, but then I have to deal with sidewall, and am more likely to de-laminate or get water in there.
The optimal weight-to-stiffness option (which I kinda want a light-stiff ski), is thus:
Single layers of fiberglass top and bottom, with cap carbon on top. BUT, this way I'm putting most of the flex absorption in the carbon fiber and not the fiberglass, which is a bad idea. I don't want to depend on the carbon for the flex rebound, I want most of it taken up in the fiberglass, so I don't crack the carbon.
So, the other option is doing full wrapped fiberglass with sandwich top. This is probably the best, but again, I gotta figure out the sidewall.
But tyler, you're right about the hoods. I've seen videos of hoods being driven over, jumped on, etc. They are very resiliant(sp?). As long as I do a good job of the layup, I shouldn't need to worry. The problem comes from having any air bubbles, cause that's where the weakness will come. And unfortunately, I won't be vacuum bagging it, so I REALLY gotta do a good job to ensure no bubbles.
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Dont worry, its a controlled slide.
Brit1275
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you know, I thought about doing LEDs.
I could drill a grid pattern of holes in the core, and put in a couple hundred blue LEDs that would be hooked up to a battery pack just behind the heel-piece. Then when you go skiing in powder at night, it would all light up!
hahahahahahahahahahaa ahahahahahaha ahahah
It would go well with the carbon fiber too. I was thinking of having some adjustable aluminum spoilers on the back, for more downforce. Plus a killer body kit.
Ricer skis, wave of the future!!!
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I could drill a grid pattern of holes in the core, and put in a couple hundred blue LEDs that would be hooked up to a battery pack just behind the heel-piece. Then when you go skiing in powder at night, it would all light up!
hahahahahahahahahahaa ahahahahahaha ahahah
It would go well with the carbon fiber too. I was thinking of having some adjustable aluminum spoilers on the back, for more downforce. Plus a killer body kit.
Ricer skis, wave of the future!!!
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$1080PLP$
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this sounds like a dream come true haha, you can ride my motherships a few times if you want to get flex ideas and shit. but also with carbon fiber you can heat it so it flexs more and less, so you can make the top sheep so that it will flex with the ski endlessly, and rely all the flex pattern to be in the wood. also a company
www.dbskis.com they also have a carbon fiber core ski and you can customize the flex to exactly what you want.
.:l[Tyler]l:.
who is the furious five? I thought you knew- its me and my 4 other split personalities that believe apestead should be castrated - oO~sKiErGirL~Oo
www.dbskis.com they also have a carbon fiber core ski and you can customize the flex to exactly what you want.
.:l[Tyler]l:.
who is the furious five? I thought you knew- its me and my 4 other split personalities that believe apestead should be castrated - oO~sKiErGirL~Oo
Brit1275
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Thats a way cool company Tyler, thanks for the link. Its cool that they use UHMW base material. I thought about that, and was in contact with a manufacturer (CAP Plastics or something like that). But, you can't repair that base. So when you gouge it, you're screwed. Its not the same as P-Tex. Its harder to scratch or gouge then P-Tex, but when you do you can't repair it.
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Dont worry, its a controlled slide.
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Dont worry, its a controlled slide.
Brit1275
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Hmmm, the powder skis DB had were like 140 at the nose... Line Prophets are 150!!!
Do I dare go bigger than 130? I mean, I'm designing these skis for me, and I only weight like 120lbs. Motherships are 127, and they're already huge, but still..... I should probably stay at 130 though, they might handle goofy if I go any bigger
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Do I dare go bigger than 130? I mean, I'm designing these skis for me, and I only weight like 120lbs. Motherships are 127, and they're already huge, but still..... I should probably stay at 130 though, they might handle goofy if I go any bigger
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Powderdayz
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i say out do LINE, make a bigger ski than the prophet! just to say youve dne so
are you stupid? he's not looking to sell them. they are going to be one or two pairs for his personal use.
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''huckbunni, i would appreciate it if you never ever, spoke again, becuase quite frankly your comments are wasted megabytes that would literally be better used to show videos of a cat playing with string.'' -APE
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''huckbunni, i would appreciate it if you never ever, spoke again, becuase quite frankly your comments are wasted megabytes that would literally be better used to show videos of a cat playing with string.'' -APE
laughdamon
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Well they have to be marketable... He doesnt have to come up with graphics tho, the company backing him does, if they ever want to go anywhere with it.
Dude, i would be interested in buying a pair of 'Sean Skis' for next season. Dont go wider than 130 unless you want have a lot of money to waste on screw ups.
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Brit1275
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These skis will not be sold... UNLESS.
Unless they turn out VERY nice and I can make them quickly and with good quality, then maybe I'll start selling them to whoever wants them, on my own though, without the help of the company (The only 'support' i'm really getting is materials, and some advice).
There will be NO graphics on top, only the carbon fiber... it acts as the topsheet.
The base however depends on what I'm getting. If I get a black base (my guess) then I'll have a black base, kinda lame. If I can get a clear base, I will lame graphics (already designed) underneath the P-Tex.
The ski company that is helping has no plans to market or manufacture this ski. They are merely helping out. However, carbon is a cool material, and more companies are using them. So in essence, I'm doing a little R&D for them (I will be submitting a detailed report to them)
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Dont worry, its a controlled slide.
Unless they turn out VERY nice and I can make them quickly and with good quality, then maybe I'll start selling them to whoever wants them, on my own though, without the help of the company (The only 'support' i'm really getting is materials, and some advice).
There will be NO graphics on top, only the carbon fiber... it acts as the topsheet.
The base however depends on what I'm getting. If I get a black base (my guess) then I'll have a black base, kinda lame. If I can get a clear base, I will lame graphics (already designed) underneath the P-Tex.
The ski company that is helping has no plans to market or manufacture this ski. They are merely helping out. However, carbon is a cool material, and more companies are using them. So in essence, I'm doing a little R&D for them (I will be submitting a detailed report to them)
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Dont worry, its a controlled slide.