9 Year Old Girl Accidentally Kills Instructor With Uzi

[.Hugo.]

if you read my post again I clearly stated to handle an automatic weapon you need to have more than logic and reasoning before handing it over to someone.

So it has nothing to do with common sense that you shouldnt let a 9 year old shoot an uzi? Do you know how difficult it is to purchase an automatic firearm? Its a process and they dont just give them out to anyone

Yeah a ban on automatic weapons would definitely reduce the number of automatic weapons out in the streets. The only problem is people think it'll happen magically overnight, it'll definitely reduce it but it'll take probably 10 years to do so. I think people should register they're guns like they do with a car, and if it somehow falls into the wrong hands and it's not reported you should be held liable for the damage done with it. hold people responsible for owning firearms, and then I have no problem giving anyone any gun they want.

They do register every purchased gun. They can be traced back to the purchaser with a serial number.

Have you ever even handled a firearm? Let alone shot one?

 

[.Hugo.]

Also you think law enforcement is worthless and doesnt do their job, at least thats what you state in other threads. Doesnt that contradict your idea that they could clean the streets of automatic weapons?

 

[arnie_grape]

guns dont kill people 9 year old girls kill people

FREEEEDOOOOOOM

 

[deleted5]

Also you think law enforcement is worthless and doesnt do their job, at least thats what you state in other threads. Doesnt that contradict your idea that they could clean the streets of automatic weapons?

first off I never stated law enforcement is useless so I don't know why you said that. I have had a lot of useless runins with the law like with skateboarding I got charged with trespassing while I was filming for a school project. I was taken to central booking because I fell asleep on the subway at 330 in the morning because I missed my train home. all a huge waste of time and taxpayer dollars. I have shot some guns a couple times over the summer my friends from Pennsylvania, and has a ton of guns. and you know as well as I do that people fill out a few sheets to register their firearms and then gets lost with the ATF, people are not held responsible for what happens after their guns get stolen. they can do a much better job regulating and seeing who has what, and who's being irresponsible with them. To address your first point shouldn't have to take common sense, it should be against the law to even try to put an automatic weapon into the hand of a kid, it just shows how relax we are with guns and what happens when you put the decision of who can use a gun and who can't up to the person who's holding the gun, because believe it or not not everyone has common sense.

 

[macavity]

Yeah a ban on automatic weapons would definitely reduce the number of automatic weapons out in the streets.

I don't think you read my post correctly. I said a ban WOULD NOT reduce the number of automatic weapons on the streets. autos are incredibly expensive and hard to come by legally. banning them would not drop the rates of use on the streets by any means because they are so much cheaper illegal.

 

[macavity]

Except for that time when a 9 year old girl shot and killed her instructor? I feel like a ban on auto's may have prevented that one...

ok, valid point, I'll give you that one. but, as unfortunate as that it is, it is just one isolated incident. it's easy to blow something like that out of proportion and say "BAN ALL GUNS!!", but you have to look at the over all rate of occurrence. how many times has this incident happened? I'd venture to say, maybe twice. if a 9 year old stole a car and killed someone, would we ban cars? (I realize cars are more useful than guns, but it's just an example.) that same situation would fall on parental negligence and lack of common sense. the bottom line is that the instructor AND the parents should not have even let a 9 year old near this thing. it's not the gun's fault, it's the decisions of the parents. something like drunk driving kills way more people than a legal full auto gun, yet you don't really hear anything about it. it's all perspective and how the media portrays the issue.

 

[macavity]

They do register every purchased gun. They can be traced back to the purchaser with a serial number.

actually, I don't think this is necessarily true. in nevada (where I live) I'm pretty sure you don't have to register any gun unless you live in clark county, in which case you only have to register handguns. it's a state by state thing.

 

[Bombogenesis]

There's no reason this should have happened. Auto weapons to non military is just a stupid concept. This tiny subset of the population continues to make the 99.9% of responsible gun owners look retarded.

 

[SKI.ING]

sorry for this long-ass post, I'm busy not paying attention in anthropology....

the thing is, if you are competent and have enough common sense to own one gun, there is no reason you shouldn't be allowed to own a million of any type. it's not the gun, it's the person behind it. yes, there are plenty of people who shouldn't be allowed to own guns. but if you are smart enough to be able to use it properly and not shoot anyone, why shouldn't you be allowed to own whatever kind you want?

also, fully automatic weapons are much harder to come by than the media puts out and people want to believe. it seems like people think any idiot can just easily come by a fully automatic assault rifle. yes, you can buy them legally, but I can assure you almost any fully automatic weapon used in a shooting was not legally attained. legal automatics run for ridiculous amounts of money, AK-47's and M-16's are around $15,000 last time I checked, and a MAC-10 or MAC-11 will run you between $5000-$8000 (MAC's were made in mass production before the automatic weapon ban of 1986, hence why they are cheaper. also, apparently they are a bitch to shoot.) and no, you can't just "make" a semiauto fully automatic. I won't get into the mechanics, but without professional machining it is damn near impossible.

automatic weapons are also, in my opinion, much less dangerous than a semiautomatic. I know that sounds retarded at first glance, but hear me out. with an automatic weapon, you are completely out of ammunition in MAYBE 5 seconds (I don't know at which the speed a automatic empties it's magazine, but I assure you it's incredibly fast.) also, fully automatic weapons are incredibly less accurate than a semiautomatic is. I've read that the military trains their soldiers to keep automatic firing to bursts of three. automatic fire is more for cover fire and not actual target firing. the kick from firing fully automatic makes it damn near impossibly for an untrained civilian to fire accurately in the slightest. semiautomatic allows you the time between each shot to adjust and control recoil. so yes, automatics fire more bullets, but they aren't nearly as accurate. I've heard some gun enthusiasts state they would rather be shot at by an automatic than a semiauto. ammo is also very expensive and makes owning and shooting an automatic very difficult to do often.

I do believe we as americans should have every right to own the guns we want, but I'm not saying there shouldn't be steps to ensuring the wrong people don't end up with them. that includes licenses, background checks, etc., but the solution isn't calling guns evil or banning everything. automatics are much less dangerous, scary, and common than the media or the general population would like to believe.

TL;DR: guns are only as dangerous as the person behind them and automatics are not scary evil things.

You need to take a course on statistics and probability. So if a gunman walks into a crowded store, be it a movie theater or mall as in past instances, you would rather that person shoot at you with a fully automatic weapon? You have got to be kidding me.

 

[.Hugo.]

actually, I don't think this is necessarily true. in nevada (where I live) I'm pretty sure you don't have to register any gun unless you live in clark county, in which case you only have to register handguns. it's a state by state thing.

My friends uncles stolen shotgun got returned to him nearly 20 years after it was taken by tracing the serial number. You may not have to go and physically register it yourself, but when you buy it your name is connected to that serial number

 

[GayWolf420]

im with the idea to not let any non-military people own assault rifles. but i dont think this is the case in this tragedy. i honestly think its a huge lack of common sense with the parents in allowing their little 9 year old girl to shoot an uzi. im guessing the instructor suggested some other weapon, but the parents insisted she shoots with a submachine gun for some reason. i dont own guns nor have i shot any, but i have learned from other gun owners that little kids typically dont shoot these kinds of weapons at all for exact reasons like this.

 

[GayWolf420]

im with the idea to not let any non-military people own assault rifles. but i dont think this is the case in this tragedy. i honestly think its a huge lack of common sense with the parents in allowing their little 9 year old girl to shoot an uzi. im guessing the instructor suggested some other weapon, but the parents insisted she shoots with a submachine gun for some reason. i dont own guns nor have i shot any, but i have learned from other gun owners that little kids typically dont shoot these kinds of weapons at all for exact reasons like this.

basically, its a common sense issue. not a gun issue, though i dont know what the hell someone would need an uzi for.

 

[macavity]

You need to take a course on statistics and probability. So if a gunman walks into a crowded store, be it a movie theater or mall as in past instances, you would rather that person shoot at you with a fully automatic weapon? You have got to be kidding me.

honestly? yeah. it's much less accurate than a semi auto. semi automatics allow you to set up each shot and aim properly, so it's much easier to aim and hit a target. you can also essentially fire as fast as you can pull the trigger, so you can still pump out lead pretty quickly. firing on full automatic has insane recoil and makes the muzzle go everywhere, making it harder to accurately hit a target. the ammunition runs out much faster too, so if the shooter's goal was to kill as many people as possible, they would have to be damn near professional to kill as many people with an automatic. I guess automatic would allow you to spray a larger crowd faster, but honestly any type of gun firing into a crowded group of people is going to do damage, whether it be a handgun, shotgun, or rifle.

 

[spliff.Life]

Nope. theres no way any normal sized 9 year old can control an uzi. Why the hell is she even shooting it anyway? I blame the parents

well yeah, I meant the resulting situation, like would a boy who accidentally shot their instructor be treated in the same manner?

 

[iH8pow]

Guns are fucking fantastic; I don't know what crawled up people's asses.

America.

 

[Bombogenesis]

well yeah, I meant the resulting situation, like would a boy who accidentally shot their instructor be treated in the same manner?

do you mean legally or in the court of public opinion?

 

[spliff.Life]

do you mean legally or in the court of public opinion?

Both

 

[Bombogenesis]

Both

Legally there would be no ramifications for either... Socially the blame would still be on tbe adults I think

 

[Bombogenesis]

Both

Legally there would be no ramifications for either... Socially the blame would still be on tbe adults I think

 

[.frenchy]

There's no reason this should have happened. Auto weapons to non military is just a stupid concept. This tiny subset of the population continues to make the 99.9% of responsible gun owners look retarded.

Maybe some people like to shoot Uzi's? Maybe someone likes to collect rare guns? Maybe somebody wants to go to their gun range and shoot a gun that not many others can?

You just have to be responsible about it, letting a little girl shoot one, was not responsible, nor ethical. You fit right into Connecticut though Chris, I bet you were one of the people that wanted AR-15's and other M-16 like guns banned in CT

 

[SFB]

all this assault rifle/automatic weapon bullshit needs to be outlawed for civilian use

seriously? so its ok for the police to have tanks and military equipment but civilians who go through background checks and gun safety courses shouldnt be allowed to own assault rifles or automatic weapons? no fucking doubt that a 9 year old girl shouldnt be shooting an uzi but an adult should have the right to have adequate firepower to protect themselves.

 

[90053]

some people really shouldn't have children

also shooting an uzi at 9? why? it cannot be for sport or hunting. What the fuck kind of country do you live in where you need to learn to shoot an uzi for self defence at nine years old, if at all? I can only see that it is for the amusement of shooting the gun. People can be so stupid it sickens me.

 

[Bombogenesis]

Maybe some people like to shoot Uzi's? Maybe someone likes to collect rare guns? Maybe somebody wants to go to their gun range and shoot a gun that not many others can?

You just have to be responsible about it, letting a little girl shoot one, was not responsible, nor ethical. You fit right into Connecticut though Chris, I bet you were one of the people that wanted AR-15's and other M-16 like guns banned in CT

I've probably spent more time holding an ar-15 than you... Why would I want them banned?

 

[JAHpow]

What the fuck kind of country do you live in where you need to learn to shoot an uzi for self defence at nine years old, if at all?

No one was learning to fire an Uzi for self defense. They were at a gun range where you pay to shoot a bunch of different firearms not readily available to the public for fun.

 

[urbanjib]

Im begining to question how much people know about the laws, and time it takes to get a fully automatic rifle.

Georgia is pretty lax. I bought a Maverick 88 Pump last week. I had to go in, provide ID, fill out an entire questions, and then submit to a background check that goes through the NCIS, along with FBI systems. They also go through any sort of committed hospital/mental institution to see if youve been committed to one.

All in all, about a 2 hour process in the end.

Now if I wanted to get a fully automatic weapon. This is considered a Class 3 weapon.

So first I need to find a shop with a FFL License. For a citizen to buy a fully automatic weapon in this way, it has to have been manufactured in or before 1986. After 1986, it was outlawed to manufacture fully automatic weapons for civilian use.

There are two ways to obtain full autos. The first is an individual process.

You must have the following:

2 Form 4s.

2 photographs of yourself attached to the Form 4s.

The CLEO must sign the form 4s. (usually the County Sheriff, but there are others that can qualify).

2 Fingerprintcards.

1 Citizenship form.

$200.00 check or money order for the tax stamp.

All of these things are sent together in one packet.

One other thing you must have is patience. The transfers are taking 60-90 days right now. My last one took 90 days exactly. The BATFE is a federal agency and they do not get in a hurry.

The forms are available either online at www.atf.gov Or, the BATFE website gives you a toll-free number to call and you can actually speak to a human.

If you find an individual in the same state as you who has a full auto that they want to sell, no dealer is required. All you have to do is fill out the paperwork and send it in to BATFE and wait for the return of the Form 4 and it's yours.

If it is in another state, it must be transferred from a dealer in that state to a dealer in your state and then to you through the dealer in your state. This will result in the payment of two transfer taxes and whatever fees the dealers charge for the transfer and the shipping.

The other method is to form a trust. I know very little about this method cause I've never done it. The advantages of a trust is that you do not have to have fingerprint cards, pictures or CLEO signatures.

You can own the weapon, but it has to stay at the dealer until the end of the 90 day period.

 

[saskskier]

seriously? so its ok for the police to have tanks and military equipment but civilians who go through background checks and gun safety courses shouldnt be allowed to own assault rifles or automatic weapons? no fucking doubt that a 9 year old girl shouldnt be shooting an uzi but an adult should have the right to have adequate firepower to protect themselves.

Are you serious? Adequate firepower to protect themselves from what? The invasion of a foreign power?

I'm not a gun person and have no desire to become one, but can understand that some people want to collect and use guns at a firing range. Go for it, but don't try to convince me you need an assault rifle or auto weapon for protection....

 

[Cahal]

in Vices video, gun crazy USA they claim that the U.S. holds about 5% of the worlds population but 50% of its guns. yeah... just think about it.

 

[Phil-X-]

in Vices video, gun crazy USA they claim that the U.S. holds about 5% of the worlds population but 50% of its guns. yeah... just think about it.

Were really lucky to have such a large holding. Our citizens can fight an invading land force if it came down to it. ISIS/Islamic State claims they'll raise their flag over the white house... I'd like to see them try and do any sort of invasion stateside.

 

[SpookyCat]

Were really lucky to have such a large holding. Our citizens can fight an invading land force if it came down to it. ISIS/Islamic State claims they'll raise their flag over the white house... I'd like to see them try and do any sort of invasion stateside.

Right, because our country doesn't have the most powerful military force in the world and we've been invaded by foreign forces SO many times in the past 200 years... it's also well known that our country only relies on private citizens with zit-poppers for protection. Yes, it makes sense.

 

[qazwsxedc34]

Why do Americans have such a strong fetish for assault rifles. When the fuck are you going to need one.

AN Uzi and Ar-15 is not an assault rifle and most thickskulled Americans can not understand this. If I were to compare violent crime/murder rate with the UK understand that numerous variables come into play and the straight-shooting fact is that the media does not constitute for said variables. In short, yes the US has a higher murder rate than the UK, however the UK has a higher violent crime rate. The UK also only counts illegal killings as homicides where the US counts all killings no matter how it happens. So the actual murder rate is much lower then the US statistics would have you think.

Again, if I would of constituted nearly all classified crimes, the UK would sit at 2034 violent crimes per. 100,000 people. However, what people say is actually true, in that violent crime definitions are not the same for the US and UK. That said violent crime sits between 900 and 1361. The UK still has a violent crime rate higher than that of the US's 386.3 per. 100,000 per capita, just not the 5 1/2 claimed by some, but between 2 1/2 and 3 1/2 times.

As I mentioned the AR-15 is a subset of a rifle and RIFLES CAUSE ONLY 3.5% OF GUN-RELATED HOMICIDES!! The question is, why pinpoint the sub-set of a rifle? Shouldn’t we be banning the guns that cause the most murders, handguns?

The AR-15 is safer than a handgun or shotgun. REMEMBER, FBI statistics US- 1992- violent crime rate of 757.7 per 100,000 and a murder rate of specifically 9.3. Almost twenty years later, 2011 US has a violent crime rate of 386.3 a 50% reduction in violent crime and a murder rate of 4.7 a 54% reduction! It's better than you are conditioned to believe.

This is not the problem. The problem lies within METROPOLITAN AREAS with a population of greater than 200,000 people. We have to try to figure out how to improve the POVERTY LEVEL, HOW TO IMPROVE THE EDUCATION SYSTEM AND HOW TO CREATE JOBS, and THAT IS HOW YOU WILL IMPROVE THE VIOLENT CRIME RATE AND MURDER RATE!!!!

Our society often attempts to find solutions from within the problem. This is why bullying will never be eradicated under this social order. This is why sexism thrives; this is why class warfare is fed from the teet of propaganda. It's really quite simple. Convince a classroom that bullying
is wrong and you should stand up against someone being bullied, and almost instantly, you have a room full of children that will openly bully each other under the false visage of their anti-bullying principles. Christians do this all the time! In sioux falls, Donald Moehler was executed for the rape and murder of a 9 year old girl. regardless of what he "deserved" for his crimes (i strongly disagree with the US justice system) the outlash from the community was truly a spectacle. never ever before in my life did i think it was possible for so many innocent people to pray to god for his death, to proclaim their faith in god then openly parade around cheering for the death of a man. so much for thou shalt not kill. All because an entire cultural realm is hellbent on finding solutions from within the problem. How to eliminate bullying and most forms of social decay? Teach children to embrace their humanity rather than tell them not to bully. Teach boys and girls to value their humanity more than the differences between sexes. Teach people to value their humanity more than they cherish their beliefs.

 

[qazwsxedc34]

Maybe some people like to shoot Uzi's? Maybe someone likes to collect rare guns? Maybe somebody wants to go to their gun range and shoot a gun that not many others can?

You just have to be responsible about it, letting a little girl shoot one, was not responsible, nor ethical. You fit right into Connecticut though Chris, I bet you were one of the people that wanted AR-15's and other M-16 like guns banned in CT

AR-15 is a subset of a rifle and RIFLES CAUSE ONLY 3.5% OF GUN-RELATED HOMICIDES!! The question is, why pinpoint the sub-set of a rifle? Shouldn’t we be banning the guns that cause the most murders, handguns?

 

[Phil-X-]

Right, because our country doesn't have the most powerful military force in the world and we've been invaded by foreign forces SO many times in the past 200 years... it's also well known that our country only relies on private citizens with zit-poppers for protection. Yes, it makes sense.

its a "if it happened" kinda thing

 

[taj.]

lols recoil nub lrn2cs1.5

 

[SpookyCat]

its a "if it happened" kinda thing

You mean its an "it will never happen but I'll say it anyways because there is no logical argument behind why Americans need such easy access to guns" kinda thing.

 

[Barefootin_Fiend]

You mean its an "it will never happen but I'll say it anyways because there is no logical argument behind why Americans need such easy access to guns" kinda thing.

right, because it is 100% impossible for america as a superpower to ever collapse. i mean, the roman empire still exists today, too, right?

 

[deleted5]

right, because it is 100% impossible for america as a superpower to ever collapse. i mean, the roman empire still exists today, too, right?

If we actually do collapse as a country, the last thing I want is a bunch of people with guns running around.

 

[Barefootin_Fiend]

If we actually do collapse as a country, the last thing I want is a bunch of people with guns running around.

well, yeah and i want a million dollars. doesn't change the fact that guns exist and some people will have them. that being the case, i'll be damn sure to have one too.

although, i must admit that my original comment was meant more as it's entirely feasible that some day our country could be invaded, in which case i want everyone to have a gun.

 

[deleted5]

well, yeah and i want a million dollars. doesn't change the fact that guns exist and some people will have them. that being the case, i'll be damn sure to have one too.

although, i must admit that my original comment was meant more as it's entirely feasible that some day our country could be invaded, in which case i want everyone to have a gun.

Our country could never be invaded at any point in the near distant future, if it ever was to happen, which I doubt. We'll both be long dead, that's the stupidest fucking thing to be afraid of. Do you have any idea how many military bases and missile silos we have in this country? the only way you're attacking this country is with an airplane and it will be shot down before you get within 100 miles from our coast. People can have guns I don't care, but your reasoning for wanting people to have guns to protect us from a foreign invasion, is retarded. On a real note I talked to a farmer from upstate New York and he actually needed a semi automatic weapon, to fend off packs of wolves that attack his sheep.

 

[Gods_Father]

Our country could never be invaded at any point in the near distant future, if it ever was to happen, which I doubt. We'll both be long dead, that's the stupidest fucking thing to be afraid of. Do you have any idea how many military bases and missile silos we have in this country? the only way you're attacking this country is with an airplane and it will be shot down before you get within 100 miles from our coast. People can have guns I don't care, but your reasoning for wanting people to have guns to protect us from a foreign invasion, is retarded. On a real note I talked to a farmer from upstate New York and he actually needed a semi automatic weapon, to fend off packs of wolves that attack his sheep.

all it takes for a country to be invaded is to be infiltrated and evidence exists to suggest that this has already happened in America. many prominent muslims and politicians have warned of the presence of the muslim brotherhood in the white house. as for those military and missile bases which make you feel so protected, they can all be hacked lol.

on a real note, you shouldn't even be allowed to post about gun rights on ns lol. you claimed that if you were the victim of a break and enter you would never defend your family with a weapon, and you would instead let the intruders "take whatever they want".....to which I replied, even if they said they wanted to rape your wife and daughters in front of you...

 

[deleted5]

all it takes for a country to be invaded is to be infiltrated and evidence exists to suggest that this has already happened in America. many prominent muslims and politicians have warned of the presence of the muslim brotherhood in the white house. as for those military and missile bases which make you feel so protected, they can all be hacked lol.

on a real note, you shouldn't even be allowed to post about gun rights on ns lol. you claimed that if you were the victim of a break and enter you would never defend your family with a weapon, and you would instead let the intruders "take whatever they want".....to which I replied, even if they said they wanted to rape your wife and daughters in front of you...

I remember who you are, and I remember that argument we had. and yes if five people broke into my house armed with guns to rob me I would probably give them what they want as opposed to trying to take a handgun and taking on five guys by having a shootout upstairs. You have a better statistical chance of living if you give them your possession, then my statistical chance of a hundred percent kill rate with a handgun and even if I did have a hundred percent kill rate I probably couldn't get five shots off before they shot me. I fight MMA I've had to get into fights before to protect myself and friends. but there's some fights I know I can't win and I'm better off trying to deescalate the situation then try to go at it. I've stated that if it was one guy comes in with a gun I am completely okay with trying to shoot him. Have you ever even been in a fight, or do you just play Call of Duty and think you can kill multiple people in seconds?

 

[Gods_Father]

I remember who you are, and I remember that argument we had. and yes if five people broke into my house armed with guns to rob me I would probably give them what they want as opposed to trying to take a handgun and taking on five guys by having a shootout upstairs. You have a better statistical chance of living if you give them your possession, then my statistical chance of a hundred percent kill rate with a handgun and even if I did have a hundred percent kill rate I probably couldn't get five shots off before they shot me. I fight MMA I've had to get into fights before to protect myself and friends. but there's some fights I know I can't win and I'm better off trying to deescalate the situation then try to go at it. I've stated that if it was one guy comes in with a gun I am completely okay with trying to shoot him. Have you ever even been in a fight, or do you just play Call of Duty and think you can kill multiple people in seconds?

this is what makes you sound psycho lol. "you have a better statistical chance of living if you give them your possession".... you would honestly just let your wife and daughters be raped while you watch just because you have a higher statistical chance of survival? letting your family suffer just so you can save your own ass? I find it difficult to believe you are that spineless, even without knowing you...

who would ever just let a person do whatever they want to their family members???

so 3 dudes are raping your wife+daughters, not a single one of these felons is even keeping an eye on you, too focused on the job at hand. you have a handgun nearby.......you will let the criminals finish "taking what they want" instead of firing even one shot?

and you do MMA? please, tell me more.

 

[deleted5]

this is what makes you sound psycho lol. "you have a better statistical chance of living if you give them your possession".... you would honestly just let your wife and daughters be raped while you watch just because you have a higher statistical chance of survival? letting your family suffer just so you can save your own ass? I find it difficult to believe you are that spineless, even without knowing you...

who would ever just let a person do whatever they want to their family members???

so 3 dudes are raping your wife+daughters, not a single one of these felons is even keeping an eye on you, too focused on the job at hand. you have a handgun nearby.......you will let the criminals finish "taking what they want" instead of firing even one shot?

and you do MMA? please, tell me more.

Giving them the objects so they'll leave yes. Everything else you just said is putting words into my mouth

you have a habit of doing that.

 

[saskskier]

this is what makes you sound psycho lol. "you have a better statistical chance of living if you give them your possession".... you would honestly just let your wife and daughters be raped while you watch just because you have a higher statistical chance of survival? letting your family suffer just so you can save your own ass? I find it difficult to believe you are that spineless, even without knowing you...

who would ever just let a person do whatever they want to their family members???

so 3 dudes are raping your wife+daughters, not a single one of these felons is even keeping an eye on you, too focused on the job at hand. you have a handgun nearby.......you will let the criminals finish "taking what they want" instead of firing even one shot?

and you do MMA? please, tell me more.

I sounds like you've been watching too many movies. Multiple people breaking into a house and then gang raping your wife/daughters is extremely rare in North America. This isn't some war torn region of Africa or the middle east where it happens on a regular basis.

 

[Dustin.]

This isn't the first time adults have decided it's smart to let a kid fire an Uzi. Also not the first time they've lost control and killed themselves or someone else. Stupid.

 

[qazwsxedc34]

I sounds like you've been watching too many movies. Multiple people breaking into a house and then gang raping your wife/daughters is extremely rare in North America. This isn't some war torn region of Africa or the middle east where it happens on a regular basis.

It happened about 10 minutes from my home in CT. The mother was raped at gunpoint and then shot in the head while her husband and kids watched. You do realize that homicides due to assault rifles ranks well below that of homicides due to handguns. Its a blip in the statistic. That and the fact that violent crime and murder rate in the US has decreased over 50 percent in the last 30 years.

 

[Bombogenesis]

I sounds like you've been watching too many movies. Multiple people breaking into a house and then gang raping your wife/daughters is extremely rare in North America.

But it happens...

 

[Gods_Father]

I sounds like you've been watching too many movies. Multiple people breaking into a house and then gang raping your wife/daughters is extremely rare in North America. This isn't some war torn region of Africa or the middle east where it happens on a regular basis.

sounds like you're mad b/c I can't think of any movie where a wife and children are being raped. anyway break + enters and rape are not "extremely rare" in north America to begin with but why would something like that even need to happen on a regular basis in order to get attention?? you prob don't get into car accidents on a regular basis but there's a high chance you use your seatbelt anyway...

 

[theabortionator]

But it happens...

Can't you get a pass to mount snow and stratton for 300 bucks without being a student these days?

Also college deals are errrywhere but fuck school YOLO

 

[.Hugo.]

Can't you get a pass to mount snow and stratton for 300 bucks without being a student these days?

Also college deals are errrywhere but fuck school YOLO

photoshopping schedules.... fuck you vail haha

 

[pastysmasher]

The danger of the right to bear arms is when guns end up in the hands of idiots as seen in the OP. I'm not from the states and don't know exactly how easy it is to get hold of a gun but instances like this would suggest it's far too easy. It's not that hard to see.