"9/11" You Must See This Video!

loose change is ridonkulous...they make some crazy points which freak me out

that film makes me think so much and makes me realize that there is so much going on that we dont know about
 
the guy sounds like a fucking paranoid fucker. i tried to listen to him, but all he has is theories, he didn't study the stuff himself, he looked at pictures and video and made accusations...
 
i saw a hour long thing about 9/11 that completely changed my views, it had a lot of proof that the government was responsible, dont know if this is it but i dont want to watch it
 
loose change is good. that other video was funny, it did have good information but the narrarator sounded like a robot.
 
i think the first guy is greatly underestimating the damage caused by the plane actually crashing into the building and is a retard for not addressing this and simply talking about the fires. Also the building collapsed beneath the top resulting in a huge amount of weight slamming down at the start of the collapse and it only get faster as it falls because of acceleration. Also, while things should fall at the same rate in a vaccuum they do not in real life...its called air resistance. This guy is for the most part, full of shit
 
great propaganda. that was like an infomercial.

anyone who thinks the Sept. 11th attacks were orchestrated by the government is a tool.
 
i have to say that the second video is a lot more informative and they have more proof. however, some of their explanations seem somewhat fake and or fabricated. especially the one about there not being enough debri at the crash site of the "lets roll" flight. knowing how many light materials are used in aircraft, and considering they were travelling way fast, the thing would have most likely been in a shitton of pieces.

we once had an overhead camper on a truck fly off our truck while traveling at about 70 mph due to wind, and the thing tumbled and tumbled, and the biggest piece left was the stove. thats going only 70mph. think of a craft flying at over 400 mph and what damage that would do.

I saw a report about the plane that had been seen over the crash on the discovery channel this year. the pilot said that he was radioed and told to fly over the crash, whereas in the video they never say that the pilot was never found.

On a completely different note, i have to side with them about the subsequent explosions in the trade center towers. why was this never investigated to the fullest? also, how could the lobby be blown to shit before the buildings collapsed?

this thing definitely made me think. dont watch the first video, save the second video and watch that, its definitely worth it in my opinion
 
the first video seemed to be full of bologna. He really only had one agrument that the government used explosives. when he was done saying it one way he would switch the words around and say it again. I beleive taht a plane could knock down a building that fast. It ran through the whole building which would knock out the supports for the top 20 floors and start a fire and weaken the rest of the supports and when the top 20 floors come crashing down they would have enough momentum to take the whole building down that much faster. overall i think the guy didn't know what he was talking about.
 
its really creative but doesn't hold much water. definitely portrays government from a very unethical standpoint.
 
thats great....but he forgot to mention WHY the government would want to kill thousands of its own people and knock down three perfectly good buildings and hurt our economy.
 
yeah shit like this is the most offensive, stupid, and unpatriotic thing in the world, its like saying the fucking holocaust never happened, please liberals, just give the fuck up, and instead of bitching and moaning about shit like this, pick a candidate that isnt a fucking douchebag, and actually win an election, then you can fuck america as hard as you want
 
I agree sort of, but I do agree with some of his points. I also have a long theory on this and don't want to type it.
 
I love it when people say "Liberals blah blah blah all their fault blah blah blah." Conservatives are money hungry blah blah blah blah." Stop fucking grouping people. That's what makes this country so fucking corrupt. People seperating themselves to make them feel more secure and right.
 
Bush isn't a douchebag? Until you stop thinking in partisan terms of liberal and conservative, you'll never know anything further than what is fed to you.

Seriously, what's with the political discussions on here? Half of us couldn't debate our way out of a paper bag. i wanna keep to the random shit topics...like how timmi's sig shoud be removed by mods. lol
 
you two above me both must be extremely stupid motherfuckers, lets think about this for a second, of the people who are accusing President Bush of blowing up the twin towers how many are conservative, none, and how many do you think are liberal, all of them, if you can find me one person whos political alignment is right of center, ill concede the argument, but because this is not the case, and when i say something like all you stupid liberals, it does apply, because all the stupid motherfuckers who think that Bush blew up the towers, are infact liberal, and i bet most sane liberals dont even believe in this shit, because its so dumb, so stop crying and telling me to stop classifying people, because thats not even an argument, and it doesnt have shit to do with what we are talking about, and there will always be political parties, and people will always be liberal or conservative, calling me out on something like that just shows your stupid, and when faced with an argument you cannot come up with a good answer to you start bitching about stupid shit like political parties, a classic liberal response to just about any hard question
 
First off, never call me stupid. OH wait let me see, I AM TO THE RIGHT OF THE POLITICAL ALIGNMENT CENTER. I bet you feel real smart now buddy. I would love to see where I said in my point Bush blew up the towers. If you could please point that out. I am obviously crying over the fact that you are ignorant and generalize groups. It has everything to do with what we are talking about. There's a difference between having political parties and having two groups of people who generalize each other because of one radical in the group. I love how you have to put a swear in every fucking mother god damn asshole piece of ignorant shit sentence you write. Notice how your whole answer was putting me into a liberal label. You're a moron and you have no clue what you're getting into. I suggest you go somewhere and learn about other people. You sure don't know a god damn thing about this topic.
 
fucking moron, i'm a libertarian, not a liberal.

what the fuck are you babbling about? classifying people doesn't have anything to do with what we're talking about? or political parties? it does for you, apparently. you used the word 'liberal' 6 times in your response.

i wasn't defending the videos either, i think the claims are ridiculous too.

what I AM saying though, is that you're a tool for thinking in only liberal/conservative terms. stop sucking your dad off for arguments to use on NS.
 
my response wasnt about you being liberal at all, i also never said you claimed bush blew up the world trade center, the only thing that even implied you were liberal was my comment at the end about bitching about political groups, turns out your not a liberal, your just a bitch, you still havent made one valid point about how partisanship in politics affects situations like these, the only thing you said in that last response to justify your original statement was, "It has everything to do with what we are talking about. There's a difference between having political parties and having two groups of people who generalize each other because of one radical in the group," nice attempt at making sense, but i think your stupidity is shining through again
 
how the fuck am i only thinking in liberal or conservative terms, IM NOT AT ALL YOU STUPID FUCKS, IM JUST USING THE TERM LIBERAL TO IDENTIFY A GROUP OF PEOPLE, WHO ARE IN FACT LIBERAL, HOW IS THAT WRONG OR BAD, this is exactly the same kind of shit that gets people called rascist when they say something general about black people, also, you say im thinking only in liberal or conservative terms, WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN, CAN I NOT THINK LIKE A CONSERVATIVE OR LIBERAL ANYMORE, DO I NEED TO THINK LIKE A COMMUNIST NOW OR WHAT, OR DO I JUST HAVE TO THINK LIKE A CONSERVATIVE OR LIBERAL WITHOUT SAYING EITHER WORD, BECAUSE IM PRETTY SURE THATS WHAT MOST MORONS LIKE YOU THINK,
 
Someone Answer Me This Though: Maybe I missed it, but what purpose would the Government have killing people?

I watched the whole second one, and I admit, it's really convinsing, but it's missing an explanation, all I heard was a bunch of papers regarding a Wall Street scandal, that's worth 3000 lives, what about the pentagon though? and that stupid town in the middle of no-where, y make a big deal about those? Explain.
 
He is 100% right...you're very narrow minded. By the way, saying I'm trying to make sense? I think you just don't get what I'm saying. Don't worry one day you will understand.
 
exactly, and if they were going to blow it up with explosives in the first place why bother flying two airplanes into the damn thing
 
then there is an excuse, and the cover up is much easier

i honestly dont know what to believe, it is convincing but some of his points are bullshit....
 
But what are they covering up? What's there a link to that's so important to run one plan into another in the middle of Pennsylvania? or something that links the Pentagon to the World Trade Centers? how is this all connected? Whats the master plan, or what the government gained?
 
that guy is crazy as fuck. sure, the way he presented his points makes many of them seem to be rational. the main point he fails to make is why in the hell would our government attack it's largest city? i would like to punch this guy in the mouth.
 
Was anyone else smart enough to simply think in terms of what happened for the first video? Never in history, has a building with that style of construction, been struck by an airliner carrying that kind of fuel. Comparing WTC to some shitty building in Europe is ridiculous its a completely different situation
 
Although i think this video is disgustiing and an unholy insult to everything that is american.....i think i can answer your question

The main motive for America staging a terrorist attack upon itself would be to create popular support of a large scale military intervention in the middle east. Such a venture would simply never have enough support unless something as dramatic as 911 had occured. I can think of several reasons why we would want to be in the middle east. Of them the most obvious is Oil, a large scale military prescence in the middle east would give us much greater influence in oil prices and production which as u might imagine, is pretty important to us. But this theory falls to pieces when you consider we pinned the whole attack on Bin Laden and the first thing we did was go into Afghanistan, a country that has nothing more to offer than opium. Which brings up another reason why this video and the government conspiracy theory is obvious bullthis. How would we get an entire terrorist organization to go along with our evil scheme and take credit for this deed without anyone from these organizations saying something (I mean come on, do u really think we secretly negotiated with Bin Laden and all these other camel fucking maniacs, I seriously doubt that). Before I get back to why the government might have wanted to stage this, i have on more reason that makes one question this whole theory. Many believers in this theory choose to pin the blame on GW and state that he is a complete maniac. But assuming that GW came into office with this plan in his head, he had only been in office for 8 months at the time of the attacks. That is hardly enough time to coordinate a major secret strike on such a gigantic target. He had too much other shit to do as well. Theres no way an attack such as this and the subsequent cover up could have been planned in such a short time unless prior officials had been involved in it. And for all u liberal hippy douche bags out there, that can only mean one thing....your boy Billy Clinton was in on it too....so HA!

But anyways, other possible government reasons all would seem to revolve around a sort of need for hatred of and desire for war in the middle east. This was a great way to get it. We may have wanted this for imperialistic reasons or possibly to simply excercise our military power (i know it sounds crazy and very cold war-esque, but when one considers the growth of China, what better way to scare them off then go around beating up other countries) i could go on but i have school in the morning and its like 120 AM so im done
 
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