"9/11 was an inside job"

I figure that saving this thread for useful debate might serve as a practical model for half the Nser's who use interwebz meme's, serchbarrrrrr, or "F#*% you" in every argument to prove their stance...

- for anyone wishing to engage in a slightly intellectual discussion, you must remember that there is ample evidence which might be able to support 9/11 as an inside job OR an act of foreign terrorism, but while many pieces of evidence and factual testimonies exist, many key pieces and questionable resolutions for why or how 9/11 are absent or censored, which effectively lends a balanced ambiguity to the argument....
That being said, I debated this topic a few years ago, and while I was impartial to facts showing (NOT proving) how or why 9/11 could have occurred, I was astonished to find a lot of research was done and conclusively showed that
- millions and even billions of dollars worth of transactions took place within the WTC buildings between the times that the first and second planes hit, which looks awfully suspicious for a building which needed immediate evacuation and was collapsing... and I would only imagine that for transactions of that magnitude to occur within such a short period of time AND to have no real trace of them..is only capable with some serious orchestration
- multiple top military officials had flights scheduled on 9/11 and on the days immediately following. These were said to be leisurely vacations with their families... however, only two or three days prior, EVERY SINGLE ONE of them cancelled their flights and neglected to reschedule, never offering a reason for these sudden cancellations...
- also, if the government was simply not capable of harming its own U.S. citizens and had their best interests in mind, why in the flying FUCK did the republican party block the recent legislation which would have spent several billion dollars in subsidizing any medical treatments firemen, police officers, and other public officials recieved in the aftermath of working on Ground Zero..... it's simply illogical!! and don't tell me its because we are trying to cut "big government spending" because days before Republicans slid into the house they refused to vote on the tax cuts unless they were extended for those making $250,000 or more, they got their way, and tacked on roughly 800 BILLION dollars in debt...
- to those of you who STILL simply cannot believe the government would do something this crazy, or put this many people at risk (at least for a profit), check out how we have whored out millions of acres of land to.......private oil and gas companies like Halliburton!! Wondering the connection? Cheney = ex CEO of Halliburton before he became Vice president... one month in, a new energy bill is signed. In it, a SINGLE paragraph clause exempting all these companies from abiding by any and all environmental regulation bills passed since Nixon was in office.... now there are thousands of documented cases of people and animals with cancer, nervous system failures, asthma, and a million other things, all from people who have seen the advancement of Hydraulic fracturing (method used to extract gas) right above their groundwater supplies.... see the documentary Gasland... then check back and try to argue, or google it..

P.S. for the argument that Bush wanted to present himself as a calm and great leader by finishing a childrens book......WTF!!! If I were the president, the potentially most powerful and responsible job in one of the most powerful countries in the world, and I heard we couldn't scramble our jets to take down several fuckin planes, I would flip a bitch, and sure as hell wouldn't finish some children's book.... If you were reading a book to a couple of kids and somebody came in and told you your mother had been shot in the head.... would you nonchalantly finish the story?? I believe the answer would be a resounding no...
the evidence missing to claim this was foreign terrorism is too important! And the suspicious responses and activities prior to, during, and after the attacks (especially in the commision report) are to great in number to ignore. Respond with logical statements and facts, but if you complain about this thread and its not immature or crude enough for you... I am pretty sure that poor, stupid Hercules kid is being butt-raped, so you can check that thread out instead... peace
 
only one thing: i never got why searching for answers is "disrespectful" to the victims/families.

if there is just a 1% possibility that either the government did all of it, helped to do it or let it happen even though they couldve stopped it, i think you have to keep looking.

dont talk about how good the anti-conspiracy documentations are since they are no better than the other ones. most of them dont talk shit about facts, they just take the dumbest and most unimportant facts from conspiracists and destroy them. GREAT JOB. and then they just go on talking trash about conspiracists and how disrespectful/dumb they are. GREAT JOB. watch these anti-docus closely. it has nothing to do with journalism.

i do not say it was this or that. but searching for the truth is def not disrespectful nor are the anti-conspiracy arguments/documentations very well made.

actually, i didnt think to be a 100% inside job or whatever, but these brainwashing anti-conspiracy docus are the only thing that enrages me so much that i might think that after watching just one more.

 
there are a lot of good movies out there that don't point fingers or claim anyone was to blame. All they do is ask the question. I find them very interesting. ("9/11 mysteries, part one: demolitions." zeitgeist, invisible empire") those are a few very good movies that I have seen that pack a lot of info.

I don't believe that the government DID it. But I don't doubt that they knew about it and "looked on the bright side" of what they could get out of it. for instance, the owner of the towers changed his insurance policy only 2 weeks before september 11th. The changes he made gave him almost double the payout, and covered an airplane crashing into the building. since both of the buildings fell, he was able to almost get quadruple$$ of what the original insurance policy was. don't remember his name. but how did he have the foresight for that? it's very interesting.

I recommend these movies to anyone, not to change your idea of america, but to just ask questions. there is nothing wrong with making our government prove that this was an innocent disaster.

there are also many other conspiracies that are covered in the movies i mentioned.

Really though. if you can check out the movie "invisible empire" you can watch it online on some websites, you'll have to sign up though.

"Zeitgeist" is also an eye opener

"9/11 mysteries part one: demolitions" covers most of the theories and has actual footage and interviews of people that were working in the buildings during, and weeks before. Some people say there were very strange things going on in the towers weeks before the crash, and leading up to the fall of the towers.

 
You do realize Zeitgeist is actually one of the least factual movies ever written right?

Like, they don't have a basic understanding of religions and their God figures. They also outright make some shit up, which is even worse because then people believe it.
 
Certainly was not an after thought.

"It is the duty of Congress to prohibit in the territories those twin relics of barbarism, polygamy and slavery."

-Republican Platform 1856

That is also the real reason why Lincoln sent Col. Conners to Utah. He was going to turn his attention to the Mormons after the war. But Col. Conners didn't find shit so he massacred roughly 400 shoshone on the bear river. Gotta love the federal government.

Back onto the topic of 9/11. What do you conspiracy theorist have to say about Bin Laden? Was he in on the job? Why did he claim responsibility?
 
just because the republican party is ran by a bunch of idiots doesn't make 9-11 a conspiracy. are you serious right now? god i hope you're just kidding around. oh by the way, it was passed over the hoildays finally.
 
great job! you went in watching zeitgeist as a piece of dull, mis-shapen dough, went through the conspiracy, cookie-cutting machine of fantasy and came out an idiot!
 
No, here's the main difference. The media is biased, Zeitgeist is just plain wrong. You know all those other figures they compare to Jesus and say that Christianity borrowed from? How Krishna and Odin were crucified as well? Yeah, total bullshit. A cursory search of wikipedia or theology website will tell you what actually happened, they most definitely were not crucified.
 
Odin tied himself up in Yssagdril and sacrified an eye in order to become omniscient. That story also came about during the 600's, which if you suck at math is almost 6 centuries after Jesus' death. Krishna was also shot in the foot with an arrow in the woods, but somehow Zeitgeist thinks he was crucified.
 
i didn't give those movies much as far as credibility is concerned. There is nothing wrong with having an open mind or introducing different theories.

as far as that part of the movie you're talking about I don't even really remember so I can't argue your point
 
That's not the point of a movie, you shouldn't have to sit through that shitshow to have your 'mind opened'.

Then the whole bit about Egyptian mythology, so retardedly wrong.
 
i'm pretty sure I meant "loose change" and not "zeitgeist". because i have no idea what you're talking about.

but my statements remain the same for loose change. sorry for the mixup
 
REALLY? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LOOSE CHANGE?

WATCHING THAT MOVIE WAS LIKE BEING BUKKAKED WITH STUPID! That's right, a stupid fucking stoner like Dylan Avery can find out this HUGE conspiracy by the US government to kill THOUSANDS of it's own citizens and then put up a website..and have it stay up without being shut down. He's so 1ee7 he can beat the U.S. government.
 
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