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14049852:TRVP_ANGEL said:how is that possible arent they behind 8 proxies
14049901:CabbyArrant said:Doesn't matter if your hosting service pulls the plug or for that matter, your security providers hosting service.
14049901:CabbyArrant said:Doesn't matter if your hosting service pulls the plug or for that matter, your security providers hosting service.
14049909:TRVP_ANGEL said:
14049856:theLiquor said:Internet censorship is getting real. We had a private/secret FB group for memes (rarely racist or hateful just edgy), 11 year old group just got officially zucced last week.
14049934:skierman said:I FEEL SO SORRY FOR THE RACISTS AND NAZIS. I GUESS THEY'LL HAVE TO RESORT BACK TO PAMPHLETS AND SECRET MEETINGS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS LIKE THE GOOD OL DAYS! WHAT A TRAGEDY!
14050118:buyfulltilts said:Never been on 8chan but if it's an even more polarized version of 4chan then I would probably hate it.
Nevertheless I don't think it should necessarily be taken down because someone posted their manifesto on it an hour before the shooting.
Did he say that the site's posts motivated him to do it?
Remember when a guy streamed a shooting on FB live? Should Facebook be taken down then?
Or when that guy murdered his girlfriend and posted her nearly beheaded body on his Insta story?
14050152:skierman said:"Durp I dun't pay enuf 'tention and didn't knoz multiplez racist mass shooters posted manifesteezies on 8chan and dudn't realize 8chan was used as gathering for mainly white supremists to share ideaz and to plan terrorist attacks"
You are the most ignorant mother fucker on this website.
14050159:.frenchy said:kkona
14050227:Dylan_ said:Kony 2020
14050228:.frenchy said:i remember those stop kony idiots always came to my high school, bet that mf is still alive
14049856:theLiquor said:Internet censorship is getting real. We had a private/secret FB group for memes (rarely racist or hateful just edgy), 11 year old group just got officially zucced last week.
14050338:SofaKingSick said:that's not what censorship is. private organizations that fund websites are under no obligation to host your "edgy, rarely racist" shit or any of the other more serious wacko stuff this thread is about
the people in this thread are hilarious trying to make these sewer rats sound like victims. they are all perfectly free to have their own websites and they can talk about whatever they want, but no one has to host them
14050390:Young_IPMC said:People love the invisible hand till it slaps them across the face.
14049934:skierman said:I FEEL SO SORRY FOR THE RACISTS AND NAZIS. I GUESS THEY'LL HAVE TO RESORT BACK TO PAMPHLETS AND SECRET MEETINGS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS LIKE THE GOOD OL DAYS! WHAT A TRAGEDY!
14051179:Evola said:havent been on in forever but good to see you're still on room temp levels of IQ
How is it a good idea to force these 'neo nazis / white supremacists / mass shoters' and whatever, underground? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to keep 8chan up and monitor it, instead of shutting it off and forcing them underground?
Do you think this in any way makes anything safer?
but I wouldn't expect some inbread white trash like yourself to be able to think a string of thoughts that exceeds the twitter 300 character limit
14051181:skierman said:YEAH MAN, LET'S MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM TO GATHER AND SHARE THEIR MANIFESTOS BEFORE COMMITTING MASS MURDERS BECAUSE LIKE FORCING THEM UNDERGROUND AND SHAMING THEM DOESN'T DO NUTHING! DATS WHY THE KKK STILL HAS MILLIONS OF MEMBERS BEFORE THEY WERE SHAMED AND FORCED UNDERGROUND. AS WE ALL KNOW, ALLOWING THEM EASY ACCESS TO PUBLIC SHARING OF IDEAS EASILY ALLOWED HOMELAND SECURITY AND THE FBI TO KEEP AN EYE ON THEM WHICH IS WHY MULTIPLE MASS SHOOTINGS RELATED TO THE PUBLIC FORUMZ WERE NOT PREVENTED IN THE PAST FEW YEARS. LIKE TOTALLY WORKING, WE SHULD KEEP DOING IT!!! IF ONLY TRUMP DIDN'T ORDER HOMELAND SECURITIES TO SHIFT THEIR FOCUS AWAY FROM WHITE SUPREMACIST GROUPS! LIKE MAYBEEEEZ
14051185:Evola said:A whole lotta words and you didn't manage to bring a single argument to the conversation. Why am I not surprised?
14051186:skierman said:"I DIDN'T READ YOUR POST, THEREFOR YOU MADE NO POINTS" - Evola
14051217:T.L. said:are you ok?
14049981:Tnski said:I heard I think Monday the owners or whatever took it down voluntarily
14052521:Fogdart said:And seriously though are some of you actually butt hurt that this site got taken down??? Sure there's others but this one was most popular with a bunch of psychos.
Why do you care if it stays up or not? What purpose did you have on it in the first place or recently? Personally I've never even heard of the site until this year. What was the common content anyway?
If you still wanna chat in your nazi fan clubs, learn to use tor or gtfo.
14052601:.frenchy said:i've never been on that shit site before. dont care that it got deleted.
but if it was deleted w/o permission or if they were forced to delete would be a whole other story, i woulnd't be ok with that.
freedom of speech.
14052603:skierman said:"deeerrrp I think dey have to keep the cite cuz freedom of speeches!"
14052601:.frenchy said:i've never been on that shit site before. dont care that it got deleted.
but if it was deleted w/o permission or if they were forced to delete would be a whole other story, i woulnd't be ok with that.
freedom of speech.
14052601:.frenchy said:i've never been on that shit site before. dont care that it got deleted.
but if it was deleted w/o permission or if they were forced to delete would be a whole other story, i woulnd't be ok with that.
freedom of speech.
14052622:Young_IPMC said:No, private businesses are not beholden to the constitution. Any hosting service has terms that allow them to terminate service at any tome for any reason. Amazing how the pro-business crowd is also the “but why isn’t my shitty behavior tolerated by PR departments?” crowd.
14052626:Lonely said:I may be mistaken and I'm to lazy to actually research it but I believe the hosting service took it dow. Adding to the big argument around whether or not large private companies like google, facebook, or twitter should be able to control what people see
14052622:Young_IPMC said:No, private businesses are not beholden to the constitution. Any hosting service has terms that allow them to terminate service at any tome for any reason. Amazing how the pro-business crowd is also the “but why isn’t my shitty behavior tolerated by PR departments?” crowd.
14052647:Fogdart said:Anyone who says it's censorship is wrong. See the link I posted earlier in the thread. It was a mutual decision by the founder and current operating owners of the site to take it down. End of story.
Additionally as someone already said, it's a private company who owns a site, and they can keep it up or take it down for whatever fucking reason they want to. Whether it's politically or morally based or both, it doesn't matter.
If Microsoft suddenly said fuck it, gamers blow, they could shut down xbox live and ain't shit anyone could do about it. But they wouldn't because they would lose so much money. Same goes for YouTube and Facebook where so much filth, propaganda, and extremism exists and transmits through. 8chan shut down probably isn't costing much to the owner, and shit the positive PR might even help them. It's probably a bigger risk to keep it active.
End this discussion on the censorship aspect of it because it's not true. I'm right. You're wrong. End of story.
14052650:.frenchy said:shut the fuck up noob, we are saying IF they were forced.
14052650:.frenchy said:shut the fuck up noob, we are saying IF they were forced.
14052713:T.L. said:They weren't. Board owner has kept the site down until he sits down with members of Congress. Which he's not even obligated to do but since there's unilateral support from compromised members of our government to squash free speech he's volunteered to keep it down so they can't blame more shootings on free speech.
..even though elpaso guy uploaded his fake manifesto to Instagram first. Weird how Instagram isn't being brought into this isn't it ??? chin scratching intensifies
Internet cool kid up here with his edgy middle finger display is mostly correct but he's still childish as you can see.
Not sure how the convo switch to 'private businesses can do what they want' but that doesn't apply to media platforms was my point above.
14052637:T.L. said:Incorrect. Don't act like a know-it-all unless you actually know what you're talking about. You need to read up on the distinction between a PLATFORM and a PUBLISHER.
In 1994, in the Turner Broadcasting v. FEC case the Supreme Court said it “does not disable the government from taking steps to ensure that private interests not restrict . . . the free flow of information and ideas.”.
https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=5334675097720961353
Also..
Under section 230 of the CDA, PLATFORMS were given immunity against any dangerous fuckery that their users post on their sites. The consequences of things like libel law fall onto the USER on a platform. This is a protection that true PUBLISHERS (content curators) take advantage of because the laws on the books are never applied as written due to big-tech lobbying.
https://www.minclaw.com/legal-resource-center/what-is-section-230-of-the-communication-decency-act-cda/
For example: NS is a publisher. Without a doubt. But, if NS ever went to court over things that were posted on here, I'd bet you $100 they would claim themselves as a platform so that that they're released of all liabilities of what was posted. Shit.. a forum this old most certainly has which is why they insist on active moderators and admins... so they can curate the content.
If you don't understand the absolutely massive implications of what is going on right now with the internet, you better wake the fuck up or you might as well start burning books. If you are on the side of ANY platform censorship whatsoever, you are on the wrong side. The world is not a nice place..people are evil.. we get it, but, if we continue to censor what can be discussed on TRUE platforms, you're really not going to like the world we're going to be living in soon. Bank on it.
Amazing how the pro-fascism crowd here don't just come out and say it: "I'm a fascist and I'd like to control how people think and speak because someones feelings are probably hurt somewhere.".
You bootleg-woke idiots better shape up. It's very unbecoming to be such a dumb smart person.
14052627:Lonely said:I do think there needs to be some discussion about what hosting services, financial services and social media companies can prevent you from doing or seeing.