8chan was taken down

Internet censorship is getting real. We had a private/secret FB group for memes (rarely racist or hateful just edgy), 11 year old group just got officially zucced last week.
 
14049901:CabbyArrant said:
Doesn't matter if your hosting service pulls the plug or for that matter, your security providers hosting service.

14049909:TRVP_ANGEL said:
whoooooosh

**This post was edited on Aug 6th 2019 at 4:24:01pm

good luck with that, I can hack the illuminati

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14049856:theLiquor said:
Internet censorship is getting real. We had a private/secret FB group for memes (rarely racist or hateful just edgy), 11 year old group just got officially zucced last week.

I FEEL SO SORRY FOR THE RACISTS AND NAZIS. I GUESS THEY'LL HAVE TO RESORT BACK TO PAMPHLETS AND SECRET MEETINGS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS LIKE THE GOOD OL DAYS! WHAT A TRAGEDY!
 
Realistically, the only thing I liked better about 8chan was all WebMs there had sound. 4chan is superior except it's all gone to shit. So you're poking around in a mound of shit for that gold nugget

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14049934:skierman said:
I FEEL SO SORRY FOR THE RACISTS AND NAZIS. I GUESS THEY'LL HAVE TO RESORT BACK TO PAMPHLETS AND SECRET MEETINGS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS LIKE THE GOOD OL DAYS! WHAT A TRAGEDY!

you sound kinda mad bro, you're shouting a bit too loud for me to understand you
 
Never been on 8chan but if it's an even more polarized version of 4chan then I would probably hate it.

Nevertheless I don't think it should necessarily be taken down because someone posted their manifesto on it an hour before the shooting.

Did he say that the site's posts motivated him to do it?

Remember when a guy streamed a shooting on FB live? Should Facebook be taken down then?

Or when that guy murdered his girlfriend and posted her nearly beheaded body on his Insta story?
 
14050118:buyfulltilts said:
Never been on 8chan but if it's an even more polarized version of 4chan then I would probably hate it.

Nevertheless I don't think it should necessarily be taken down because someone posted their manifesto on it an hour before the shooting.

Did he say that the site's posts motivated him to do it?

Remember when a guy streamed a shooting on FB live? Should Facebook be taken down then?

Or when that guy murdered his girlfriend and posted her nearly beheaded body on his Insta story?

"Durp I dun't pay enuf 'tention and didn't knoz multiplez racist mass shooters posted manifesteezies on 8chan and dudn't realize 8chan was used as gathering for mainly white supremists to share ideaz and to plan terrorist attacks"

You are the most ignorant mother fucker on this website.
 
14050152:skierman said:
"Durp I dun't pay enuf 'tention and didn't knoz multiplez racist mass shooters posted manifesteezies on 8chan and dudn't realize 8chan was used as gathering for mainly white supremists to share ideaz and to plan terrorist attacks"

You are the most ignorant mother fucker on this website.

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14050228:.frenchy said:
i remember those stop kony idiots always came to my high school, bet that mf is still alive

I remember when everyone posted about it on Facebook and everyone forgot about it 3 days later.
 
dude if they were to infiltrate places like 4chan (not that government agencies already havent), they'd come to find out that these individuals graduated into using other platforms to discuss this kind of stuff due to the moderation on there now because of things like this. its not like the early days of 4chan, the moderation and users would figure you out very quickly and youd get reported to agencies, they even have some filters set in place for posting that would report your post to the mods and is an autoban. this kind of stuff is why people started using 8chan more due to the more relaxed or lack of moderation. Reddit has even had their fair share of bad communities like this which lead to some insanely strict moderation as of late. even a few shooters were avid reddit users spouting their nonsensical shit.

its definitely a bit of a gateway for anyone wanting to commit a terrorist attack but they can just find workarounds. soo many fucked up things hide in plain sight on the internet. even on social media but there is just too much money tied up with advertising and companies to go after them.
 
14049856:theLiquor said:
Internet censorship is getting real. We had a private/secret FB group for memes (rarely racist or hateful just edgy), 11 year old group just got officially zucced last week.

that's not what censorship is. private organizations that fund websites are under no obligation to host your "edgy, rarely racist" shit or any of the other more serious wacko stuff this thread is about

the people in this thread are hilarious trying to make these sewer rats sound like victims. they are all perfectly free to have their own websites and they can talk about whatever they want, but no one has to host them
 
14050338:SofaKingSick said:
that's not what censorship is. private organizations that fund websites are under no obligation to host your "edgy, rarely racist" shit or any of the other more serious wacko stuff this thread is about

the people in this thread are hilarious trying to make these sewer rats sound like victims. they are all perfectly free to have their own websites and they can talk about whatever they want, but no one has to host them

People love the invisible hand till it slaps them across the face.
 
14050390:Young_IPMC said:
People love the invisible hand till it slaps them across the face.

Isn't it interesting the ones who claim to love the Constitution have the least understanding of it.
 
14049934:skierman said:
I FEEL SO SORRY FOR THE RACISTS AND NAZIS. I GUESS THEY'LL HAVE TO RESORT BACK TO PAMPHLETS AND SECRET MEETINGS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS LIKE THE GOOD OL DAYS! WHAT A TRAGEDY!

havent been on in forever but good to see you're still on room temp levels of IQ

How is it a good idea to force these 'neo nazis / white supremacists / mass shoters' and whatever, underground? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to keep 8chan up and monitor it, instead of shutting it off and forcing them underground?

Do you think this in any way makes anything safer?

but I wouldn't expect some inbread white trash like yourself to be able to think a string of thoughts that exceeds the twitter 300 character limit
 
14051179:Evola said:
havent been on in forever but good to see you're still on room temp levels of IQ

How is it a good idea to force these 'neo nazis / white supremacists / mass shoters' and whatever, underground? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to keep 8chan up and monitor it, instead of shutting it off and forcing them underground?

Do you think this in any way makes anything safer?

but I wouldn't expect some inbread white trash like yourself to be able to think a string of thoughts that exceeds the twitter 300 character limit

YEAH MAN, LET'S MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM TO GATHER AND SHARE THEIR MANIFESTOS BEFORE COMMITTING MASS MURDERS BECAUSE LIKE FORCING THEM UNDERGROUND AND SHAMING THEM DOESN'T DO NUTHING! DATS WHY THE KKK STILL HAS MILLIONS OF MEMBERS BEFORE THEY WERE SHAMED AND FORCED UNDERGROUND. AS WE ALL KNOW, ALLOWING THEM EASY ACCESS TO PUBLIC SHARING OF IDEAS EASILY ALLOWED HOMELAND SECURITY AND THE FBI TO KEEP AN EYE ON THEM WHICH IS WHY MULTIPLE MASS SHOOTINGS RELATED TO THE PUBLIC FORUMZ WERE NOT PREVENTED IN THE PAST FEW YEARS. LIKE TOTALLY WORKING, WE SHULD KEEP DOING IT!!! IF ONLY TRUMP DIDN'T ORDER HOMELAND SECURITIES TO SHIFT THEIR FOCUS AWAY FROM WHITE SUPREMACIST GROUPS! LIKE MAYBEEEEZ
 
14051181:skierman said:
YEAH MAN, LET'S MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM TO GATHER AND SHARE THEIR MANIFESTOS BEFORE COMMITTING MASS MURDERS BECAUSE LIKE FORCING THEM UNDERGROUND AND SHAMING THEM DOESN'T DO NUTHING! DATS WHY THE KKK STILL HAS MILLIONS OF MEMBERS BEFORE THEY WERE SHAMED AND FORCED UNDERGROUND. AS WE ALL KNOW, ALLOWING THEM EASY ACCESS TO PUBLIC SHARING OF IDEAS EASILY ALLOWED HOMELAND SECURITY AND THE FBI TO KEEP AN EYE ON THEM WHICH IS WHY MULTIPLE MASS SHOOTINGS RELATED TO THE PUBLIC FORUMZ WERE NOT PREVENTED IN THE PAST FEW YEARS. LIKE TOTALLY WORKING, WE SHULD KEEP DOING IT!!! IF ONLY TRUMP DIDN'T ORDER HOMELAND SECURITIES TO SHIFT THEIR FOCUS AWAY FROM WHITE SUPREMACIST GROUPS! LIKE MAYBEEEEZ

A whole lotta words and you didn't manage to bring a single argument to the conversation. Why am I not surprised?
 
14051185:Evola said:
A whole lotta words and you didn't manage to bring a single argument to the conversation. Why am I not surprised?

"I DIDN'T READ YOUR POST, THEREFOR YOU MADE NO POINTS" - Evola
 
14051217:T.L. said:
are you ok?

something is actually wrong with him. like i get being an internet tuff guy but this dude hasn't said one good thing on newschoolers between both skiierman accounts. pretty sad
 
"I DIDN'T READ YOUR POST, THEREFOR YOU MADE NO POINTS" - Evola

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And seriously though are some of you actually butt hurt that this site got taken down??? Sure there's others but this one was most popular with a bunch of psychos.

Why do you care if it stays up or not? What purpose did you have on it in the first place or recently? Personally I've never even heard of the site until this year. What was the common content anyway?

If you still wanna chat in your nazi fan clubs, learn to use tor or gtfo.
 
14052521:Fogdart said:
And seriously though are some of you actually butt hurt that this site got taken down??? Sure there's others but this one was most popular with a bunch of psychos.

Why do you care if it stays up or not? What purpose did you have on it in the first place or recently? Personally I've never even heard of the site until this year. What was the common content anyway?

If you still wanna chat in your nazi fan clubs, learn to use tor or gtfo.

i've never been on that shit site before. dont care that it got deleted.

but if it was deleted w/o permission or if they were forced to delete would be a whole other story, i woulnd't be ok with that.

freedom of speech.
 
14052601:.frenchy said:
i've never been on that shit site before. dont care that it got deleted.

but if it was deleted w/o permission or if they were forced to delete would be a whole other story, i woulnd't be ok with that.

freedom of speech.

"deeerrrp I think dey have to keep the cite cuz freedom of speeches!"
 
14052603:skierman said:
"deeerrrp I think dey have to keep the cite cuz freedom of speeches!"

Yes motherfucker, that's a right all americans have. don't care how much your snowflake ass doesn't like it.
 
14052601:.frenchy said:
i've never been on that shit site before. dont care that it got deleted.

but if it was deleted w/o permission or if they were forced to delete would be a whole other story, i woulnd't be ok with that.

freedom of speech.

No, private businesses are not beholden to the constitution. Any hosting service has terms that allow them to terminate service at any tome for any reason. Amazing how the pro-business crowd is also the “but why isn’t my shitty behavior tolerated by PR departments?” crowd.
 
14052601:.frenchy said:
i've never been on that shit site before. dont care that it got deleted.

but if it was deleted w/o permission or if they were forced to delete would be a whole other story, i woulnd't be ok with that.

freedom of speech.

I may be mistaken and I'm to lazy to actually research it but I believe the hosting service took it dow. Adding to the big argument around whether or not large private companies like google, facebook, or twitter should be able to control what people see
 
14052622:Young_IPMC said:
No, private businesses are not beholden to the constitution. Any hosting service has terms that allow them to terminate service at any tome for any reason. Amazing how the pro-business crowd is also the “but why isn’t my shitty behavior tolerated by PR departments?” crowd.

I do think there needs to be some discussion about what hosting services, financial services and social media companies can prevent you from doing or seeing.
 
14052626:Lonely said:
I may be mistaken and I'm to lazy to actually research it but I believe the hosting service took it dow. Adding to the big argument around whether or not large private companies like google, facebook, or twitter should be able to control what people see

yeah you are right, they chose to delete

google, FB + twitter are fucking trash. let the people say what the want, fuck censorship unless its illegal (death threats or telling people to kill a certain person)
 
14052622:Young_IPMC said:
No, private businesses are not beholden to the constitution. Any hosting service has terms that allow them to terminate service at any tome for any reason. Amazing how the pro-business crowd is also the “but why isn’t my shitty behavior tolerated by PR departments?” crowd.

Incorrect. Don't act like a know-it-all unless you actually know what you're talking about. You need to read up on the distinction between a PLATFORM and a PUBLISHER.

In 1994, in the Turner Broadcasting v. FEC case the Supreme Court said it “does not disable the government from taking steps to ensure that private interests not restrict . . . the free flow of information and ideas.”.

https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=5334675097720961353

Also..

Under section 230 of the CDA, PLATFORMS were given immunity against any dangerous fuckery that their users post on their sites. The consequences of things like libel law fall onto the USER on a platform. This is a protection that true PUBLISHERS (content curators) take advantage of because the laws on the books are never applied as written due to big-tech lobbying.

https://www.minclaw.com/legal-resource-center/what-is-section-230-of-the-communication-decency-act-cda/

For example: NS is a publisher. Without a doubt. But, if NS ever went to court over things that were posted on here, I'd bet you $100 they would claim themselves as a platform so that that they're released of all liabilities of what was posted. Shit.. a forum this old most certainly has which is why they insist on active moderators and admins... so they can curate the content.

If you don't understand the absolutely massive implications of what is going on right now with the internet, you better wake the fuck up or you might as well start burning books. If you are on the side of ANY platform censorship whatsoever, you are on the wrong side. The world is not a nice place..people are evil.. we get it, but, if we continue to censor what can be discussed on TRUE platforms, you're really not going to like the world we're going to be living in soon. Bank on it.

Amazing how the pro-fascism crowd here don't just come out and say it: "I'm a fascist and I'd like to control how people think and speak because someones feelings are probably hurt somewhere.".

You bootleg-woke idiots better shape up. It's very unbecoming to be such a dumb smart person.
 
Anyone who says it's censorship is wrong. See the link I posted earlier in the thread. It was a mutual decision by the founder and current operating owners of the site to take it down. End of story.

Additionally as someone already said, it's a private company who owns a site, and they can keep it up or take it down for whatever fucking reason they want to. Whether it's politically or morally based or both, it doesn't matter.

If Microsoft suddenly said fuck it, gamers blow, they could shut down xbox live and ain't shit anyone could do about it. But they wouldn't because they would lose so much money. Same goes for YouTube and Facebook where so much filth, propaganda, and extremism exists and transmits through. 8chan shut down probably isn't costing much to the owner, and shit the positive PR might even help them. It's probably a bigger risk to keep it active.

End this discussion on the censorship aspect of it because it's not true. I'm right. You're wrong. End of story.
 
14052647:Fogdart said:
Anyone who says it's censorship is wrong. See the link I posted earlier in the thread. It was a mutual decision by the founder and current operating owners of the site to take it down. End of story.

Additionally as someone already said, it's a private company who owns a site, and they can keep it up or take it down for whatever fucking reason they want to. Whether it's politically or morally based or both, it doesn't matter.

If Microsoft suddenly said fuck it, gamers blow, they could shut down xbox live and ain't shit anyone could do about it. But they wouldn't because they would lose so much money. Same goes for YouTube and Facebook where so much filth, propaganda, and extremism exists and transmits through. 8chan shut down probably isn't costing much to the owner, and shit the positive PR might even help them. It's probably a bigger risk to keep it active.

End this discussion on the censorship aspect of it because it's not true. I'm right. You're wrong. End of story.

shut the fuck up noob, we are saying IF they were forced.
 
14052650:.frenchy said:
shut the fuck up noob, we are saying IF they were forced.

BUT they weren't you moron so what's the point of arguing hypotheticals with skierman all night, that will eventually morph into a debate about politics and further into gun control and finally into how he hates trump and you suck trumps dick?

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14052650:.frenchy said:
shut the fuck up noob, we are saying IF they were forced.

They weren't. Board owner has kept the site down until he sits down with members of Congress. Which he's not even obligated to do but since there's unilateral support from compromised members of our government to squash free speech he's volunteered to keep it down so they can't blame more shootings on free speech.

..even though elpaso guy uploaded his fake manifesto to Instagram first. Weird how Instagram isn't being brought into this isn't it ??? chin scratching intensifies

Internet cool kid up here with his edgy middle finger display is mostly correct but he's still childish as you can see.

Not sure how the convo switch to 'private businesses can do what they want' but that doesn't apply to media platforms was my point above.
 
14052713:T.L. said:
They weren't. Board owner has kept the site down until he sits down with members of Congress. Which he's not even obligated to do but since there's unilateral support from compromised members of our government to squash free speech he's volunteered to keep it down so they can't blame more shootings on free speech.

..even though elpaso guy uploaded his fake manifesto to Instagram first. Weird how Instagram isn't being brought into this isn't it ??? chin scratching intensifies

Internet cool kid up here with his edgy middle finger display is mostly correct but he's still childish as you can see.

Not sure how the convo switch to 'private businesses can do what they want' but that doesn't apply to media platforms was my point above.

Internet cool kid here. Yeah social media like Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube are filled with all sorts of filth including propaganda and extremism. The thing is though, the government will never be able to moderate or shut them down as it would make people angry, and affect the economy as well since these are multi billion dollar companies with their fingers in everything. It blows my mind the kind of shit that's on youtube these days (even kid YouTube is fucked) and the dangerously fake information on Facebook (excluding politics). All that's really gonna happen is some empty promises to try harder and some fines handed down.
 
14052637:T.L. said:
Incorrect. Don't act like a know-it-all unless you actually know what you're talking about. You need to read up on the distinction between a PLATFORM and a PUBLISHER.

In 1994, in the Turner Broadcasting v. FEC case the Supreme Court said it “does not disable the government from taking steps to ensure that private interests not restrict . . . the free flow of information and ideas.”.

https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=5334675097720961353

Also..

Under section 230 of the CDA, PLATFORMS were given immunity against any dangerous fuckery that their users post on their sites. The consequences of things like libel law fall onto the USER on a platform. This is a protection that true PUBLISHERS (content curators) take advantage of because the laws on the books are never applied as written due to big-tech lobbying.

https://www.minclaw.com/legal-resource-center/what-is-section-230-of-the-communication-decency-act-cda/

For example: NS is a publisher. Without a doubt. But, if NS ever went to court over things that were posted on here, I'd bet you $100 they would claim themselves as a platform so that that they're released of all liabilities of what was posted. Shit.. a forum this old most certainly has which is why they insist on active moderators and admins... so they can curate the content.

If you don't understand the absolutely massive implications of what is going on right now with the internet, you better wake the fuck up or you might as well start burning books. If you are on the side of ANY platform censorship whatsoever, you are on the wrong side. The world is not a nice place..people are evil.. we get it, but, if we continue to censor what can be discussed on TRUE platforms, you're really not going to like the world we're going to be living in soon. Bank on it.

Amazing how the pro-fascism crowd here don't just come out and say it: "I'm a fascist and I'd like to control how people think and speak because someones feelings are probably hurt somewhere.".

You bootleg-woke idiots better shape up. It's very unbecoming to be such a dumb smart person.

I think you misread. Turner only talks about government statues requiring specific messages to be broadcast. A hosting service is not the government. If I hosted a site, and my terms said “no obscene content” then I could reasonably take down any site that violated those terms.

Additionally, section 230 of the CDA exempts the government from pursuing action against the platform. Again, a website host is not the government, so this does bot apply.

Please try again.
 
14052627:Lonely said:
I do think there needs to be some discussion about what hosting services, financial services and social media companies can prevent you from doing or seeing.

I’d have to agree, but I’m just trying to point out that what you mentioned is more or less half of the goal of the republican party. People who support that have no right to complain when it doesn’t go their way.
 
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