um, they're fairly stiff, kinda damp, not the poppiest ski, but amazing in the pow. should be pretty good all mountain, thougghi'd stay away from bumps. good in park too if you like wide skis in park, not going to be like the anthems though. i skied the 182s though the day i skied them, so smaller sizes aare probably softer as 4frnt likes to progress theflex pattern as the size increases. also these were the original ones, so tey may be softened up a bit with the addition of the EHP to the 4Frnt lineup.