420 ogigination story

skitoggrob

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wait why are people so excited about today..?

heres a little history for youu:

"According to Steven Hager, editor of High Times, the term 420 originated at San Rafael High School, in 1971, among a group of about a dozen pot-smoking wiseacres who called themselves the Waldos. The term 420 was shorthand for the time of day the group would meet, at the campus statue of Louis Pasteur, to smoke pot. ``It was just a joke, but it came to mean all kinds of things, like `Do you have any?' or `Do I look stoned?' '' he said. ``Parents and teachers wouldn't know what we were talking about.'' The term took root, and flourished, and spread beyond San Rafael with the assistance of the Grateful Dead and their dedicated cohort of pot-smoking fans."
 
dude my dad went to school with that guy, he said he came into his math class baked all the time
 
wow way to be robby and seriously learn to use the fucking searchbar my god you make the most pointless posts. i'm not being mean but i am speaking the truth.
 
my friends dad was part of that movement. i didn;t believe him at first but sr is right by my house where the kids dad went to school. so at least some facts are accurate
 
YEAH! its true, 420 did originate at San Rafael High school which is about 2 minutes from my house , and i also live in jerry garcia's old house.
 
It's also Carmen Elektras birthday

Maybe they also want to celbrate her.. hottness?

There is so many 420 explanations. Another is that they... apparently...originally beleived there was 420 chemicals in Marijuana.
 
at a school near me, a group of people were gonna go kill a bunch of people at their school cause of the aniversary of columbine n they posted a warning thing on myspace and got caught, i heard that on the news tonight and thought that was pretty funny and then couldnt stop laughin wen they said about myspace
 
that is false my friend. i used to think that too but thats not it. theres a bunch of explinations that could be true but that ones definetly made up
 
ding ding. it was the code for posession in haight-ashbury.

and marijuajuana has 419 chemicals in it.

and 95% of this site spells marijuajuana wrong
 
420 is a stabbing.

my friend stole the book with all the codes in it from a cop car who left his door open when he went inside to bust a party
 
i believe you, it must have changed then, because i know for a fact, that 420 was the code for possession. props on the nab tho
 
no it doesn't, it has between 250-400 depending on the plant type. 420 refers to the time 4:20, not the number of chemicals.

I live in the town right next to San Rafael. My friends parents were also involved in the 420 "ogigination".
 
san rafael is norcal but w/e. It's on the other side of the golden gate bridge by about a 15 minute drive.
 
no, to quote a-guy-who-skiis-in-caledon:

"actually it is traditionally the code for domestic violence or a family fight... it was not untill recently it became the code for catching people smoking pot... it became the code for pot smoking because it was already used by pot heads and it just made sence. as for the day..."

there are too many threads on this going around
 
you're a dumbass. bob marley's bithday is on february 6th. how does a group of kids smoking at 420 not make sense? it becomes popular and spreads? how is that hard to believe?
 
its an arbitrary number that has come to mean something in the stoner community. kinda like how christians decided christs birthday was on december 25th. its just tradition.
 
yes, a tradition that started form kids smoking at 4:20! how else would it become a tradition?! traditions have to start from something don't they? or do they just appear in society with a shroud of mystery?
 
a 420 is the police code in california for people smoking weed, i heard thats how it started
 
my dad's a cop, its not a 420 code anywhere for marijuana stuff. (not anywhere, because for the most part the police keep the codes roughly the same everywhere)
 
# Known Myths: It isn't police code. It isn't the number of chemicals in marijuana (315, not 420). And it isn't tea time in Amsterdam (that's 5:30). (Gerhard den Hollander).

# Length of buzz: In a study reportedly conducted on the effects of cannabis, one of the conclusions was that the effects last for 4 hours and 20 seconds, with onset in the first ten minutes, "coming up" for 5-10 minus, a plateau for 15-30, "coming down" for 45-60 minutes, and "after effects" for 30-60 minutes, with this graphic summarizing the high: (Cole Smith)

# Sixties Songs: For instance, Bob Dylan's famous "Rainy Day Women #12 and 35" is a possible reference, or source -- 12x35=420. And Stephen Stills wrote (and Crosby Stills Nash & Young performed) a song "4+20" (first recorded 7/16/69, released on Deja Vu 3/11/70) about an 24-year-old poverty-stricken man who started and finished with nothing. (Thanks to Sherry Keel 12/6/98; and Matt Cantor, 2/12/03.) Dylan aslo mentions "4 and 20 windows" in "The Balland of Frankie Lee and Judas Priest" (on John Wesley Harding).

# Older Verse: But 420 in poetry is older than that...

* Greg Keller notes the old nursery rhyme line, "four and twenty black birds baked in a pie".

* Revelation 5:14 (in the King James Version of the Christian Bible) reads, "And the four beasts said 'A-Men.' And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever." (Travis Spurley 2/15/99) Mark 4:20 (which was printed on t-shirts in the late 1980s) reads ""Others like seed sown on good soil, hear the word, accept it, and produce a crop - thirty, sixty, or even a hundred times what was sown." (Althea Toldme) See also, 420 in the Bible.

* In Midnight's_Children, Salman Rushdie wrote, "Inevitably, a number of these children failed to survive. Malnutrition, disease and the misfortunes of everyday life had accounted for no less than four hundred and twenty of them by the time I became conscious of their existence; although it is possible to hypothesize that these deaths, too, had their purpose, since 420 has been, since time immemorial, the number associated with fraud, deception and trickery." (Comet 2/14/98) Comet's "best guess is that this refers to something in Indian mythology or numerology, since the book is set in India and frequently involves Indian history, culture, and religion. Given the high interest in Eastern religion among the phish/dead community, this seems a likely origin of 420's current significance."

# Temporal Significance: "Hands on analog clock at 4:20 look like position of doobie dangling from mouth" "Larry in Tuscan" and Alex Mack 5/19/99). Disruptive students are out of detention and safetly away from school by 4:20, also rumored to be "the time that you should dose to be peaking when the Dead went on stage" Hart. "The Waldos" were a group of teens back in the 70's that lived in San Rafael, CA. 420 was the way they talked about pot in front of teachers, non-smoking family members etc. Also it was the time of day they could just go relax, and get baked." ("PhunkCellar") Jamaicans purportedly "worked till 4 then walked home then lit up. They would talk 420 like our parents talked about after 5. That's when partying began" "Larry in Tuscan"). Albert (not Abbie) Hofmann supposedly first encountered LSD at 4:20 p.m. on 4/19/1943 (Bart Coleman citing Storming Heaven by Jay Stevens, recommended by Mickey Hart in Planet Drum). Surrealist painter Miro was born April 20, 1893. And www.filmspeed.com says the propoganda film Reefer Madness has a copyright date of April 20, 1936 (i.e. 4/20). (PW)

# Misc: Could be that it comes from hydroponics, the practice of cultivating plants in water often used by indoor marijuana cultivators, since 4 is used for H on a calculator (420/H20). (Nick Lowe 3/30/00) The number 80 (eight) is "quatre vingt" (pronounced "cah-truh vahn"), meaning "four (times} twenty&quot. Dan Nijjar 1/27/00 (No connection yet between the number 80 and pot. A quarter pound is roughly 120 grams, rounding quarter-ounces to 7.5.) The titanic was supposed to arrive 4/20/1912. (Thanks to RB.) Perhaps the heavy use of vt420 terminals in the Berkeley area is to blame? (BTW, 420 in binary code is 110100100.)
 
Thank you. Seriously all this shit about Hitler's birthday and the chemicals makes me want to shoot myself.
 
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