25-i :::: synthetic LSD ::: student dies after 1 drop
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Shredsterr
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The great Spagett hath spoken!
Mr.SoloDolo
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Funny thing. My Girlfriend's Brother's company did all the drug testing for Electric Forrest and 90% of all confiscated drugs contained either RCs or Meth. Happy I brought my own supplies.
Mr.LemonPie
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???
http://www.meditests.com/lsd-test.html
I've never used one of these but why wouldn't something like that work?
http://www.meditests.com/lsd-test.html
I've never used one of these but why wouldn't something like that work?
ElMexicano
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LSD is derived from ergot a fungus that grows on rye. These research chems are different and haven't been around as long they were made as cheaper alternatives to "traditional" drugs. Some effects are similar and they are different in their own respect and sometimes they kill people... I've just read a lot about this sort of thing so take that with a grain of salt.
ElMexicano
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You should also be concerned with molly now too because drug dealers don't follow the naming scheme ... Usually .... At this point if you want to do MDMA you should get a test kit. I know most people don't do that but you really don't know what you have unless you test it.
ElMexicano
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Yeah your LSD or acid or cid or whatever the fuck people call it should be tasteless. One thing I hate is people putting any drug that makes you trip and calling it acid. It's not suppose to be an umbrella term it used to mean just LSD. All the slang and miss attributing names has caused a lot of confusion and even death/injury.
Bodhisattva_
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Yeah it's fucked. I was asking some kid the other night if he was interested in some dose and he said "nah man, I've got my own acid. It's not LSD though it's 2CI."
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c'mon.
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c'mon.
JahJahBinks
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A couple of my dumbass friends messed with this new drug this past Friday. They've done acid only once before and loved it. I texted him during it and he just replied "I'm so scared, etc, thinking he was going to die". He's straight now but who knows, I'll never mess with anything like that. Call me a pussy or whatever but one time on acid changes people sometimes and their entire outlook on life.
That's kind of the point. Used as a tool you can transform your whole life in a massively positive way. I wouldn't be the person I am now if I hadn't.
At the same time you can abuse just about anything and get burned. Also a lot of stuff out there these days is not even LSD so your not getting off to the greatest start.
At the same time you can abuse just about anything and get burned. Also a lot of stuff out there these days is not even LSD so your not getting off to the greatest start.
Byron_tha_gr8
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LOL and you hardly know shit about shit.
When you buy Molly, you want it to be pure MDMA. However, if your getting pure MDMA, someone is losing a lot of money, so you won't ever get pure MDMA, meaning you wont ever find Molly, at least in the form you want it. You will find: MDMA mixed with meth, coke, crack, 2ci, 25i, LSA, and a stream of other RC's. Sometimes you just get a mix of RC's and meth and no MDMA at all, there is no standard for what your going to be getting. You're dealing with a generally long line of drug dealers, you probably aren't special enough to be getting anything pure. You are a way for them to make $, and every one of them will lie to you and tell you their shit is pure/almost pure. Over the summer i decided to test all the molly the people areound me were doing, and between 3 different states, not one time did i even see a substance where it tested as the majority being MDMA.
Ecstasy is basically what Molly actually is. MDMA is SUPPOSEDLY the active ingredient in E, while the other shit in it is supposed "support" it from a chemical standpoint, meaning in an ideal situation you're getting MDMA mixed with coke and possibly a dash of meth. In reality, especially as of late, the line between Molly, Ecstasy, and a fucked up mix of RC's has been blurred, and everyone is calling all 3 of those things Molly, since its what is socially cool.
I would suggest learning to extract your own shit, SWIM has been able to extract LSA, LSH, Mescaline, and even DMT in the form of Ayahuasca. All with plant's and cactuses ordered legally online, and none of the shit was cut since SWIM was making it.
POP A MOLLY IM SWEATIN (because im dying)!!!!
When you buy Molly, you want it to be pure MDMA. However, if your getting pure MDMA, someone is losing a lot of money, so you won't ever get pure MDMA, meaning you wont ever find Molly, at least in the form you want it. You will find: MDMA mixed with meth, coke, crack, 2ci, 25i, LSA, and a stream of other RC's. Sometimes you just get a mix of RC's and meth and no MDMA at all, there is no standard for what your going to be getting. You're dealing with a generally long line of drug dealers, you probably aren't special enough to be getting anything pure. You are a way for them to make $, and every one of them will lie to you and tell you their shit is pure/almost pure. Over the summer i decided to test all the molly the people areound me were doing, and between 3 different states, not one time did i even see a substance where it tested as the majority being MDMA.
Ecstasy is basically what Molly actually is. MDMA is SUPPOSEDLY the active ingredient in E, while the other shit in it is supposed "support" it from a chemical standpoint, meaning in an ideal situation you're getting MDMA mixed with coke and possibly a dash of meth. In reality, especially as of late, the line between Molly, Ecstasy, and a fucked up mix of RC's has been blurred, and everyone is calling all 3 of those things Molly, since its what is socially cool.
I would suggest learning to extract your own shit, SWIM has been able to extract LSA, LSH, Mescaline, and even DMT in the form of Ayahuasca. All with plant's and cactuses ordered legally online, and none of the shit was cut since SWIM was making it.
POP A MOLLY IM SWEATIN (because im dying)!!!!
Generally these days you're getting stuff that never had any MDMA in it. Not saying some stuff isn't cut, but for the most part these days it's real or it isn't. And most of the shit isn't real.
There is really clean shit out there just not much compared to the majority. Most of what's going around is people buying RC's in bulk and selling them. Getting them for 1/10th the price at the most. You can get at least 10 times the amount for the same price and kids will eat it up? You're going to make $$$. Also it's far more accessible. When you could buy some of these things in person in a shop, it made it ridiculously easy and cheap for people to push "molly". This EDM scene helps a ton because you have a bunch of naive kids with $ and no idea what the fuck they're doing raging a world driven buy drugs.
I don't think good molly is stepped on in the way that coke and other stuff is. At the same time there really isn't much good shit floating around these days.
Rolls can be extremely clean just like powdered mdma can be. All you need is something to bind it. People have some idea in there head that the rolls are all dirty and cut down but the "molly" they're eating is pure. Sure there are meth bombs, piperazine, and I've even seen methylone ones going around these days, but it's the same with the powder.
Most of the stuff out there is methylone, but there's also plenty of mephedrone, meth and all kinds of other shit.
Without any changes in the drug war or edm scene it will probably continue for a long time. It's pretty wild how people that won't even smoke weed are doing "molly" with their friends at shows. Won't smoke something natural at a show because it's bad and you don't do that, but will ingest some random chemical that might kill you = brilliant.
I won't be doing it but I try to always keep a test kit handy for the people that are. Can't be too safe. It's a crazy world.
There is really clean shit out there just not much compared to the majority. Most of what's going around is people buying RC's in bulk and selling them. Getting them for 1/10th the price at the most. You can get at least 10 times the amount for the same price and kids will eat it up? You're going to make $$$. Also it's far more accessible. When you could buy some of these things in person in a shop, it made it ridiculously easy and cheap for people to push "molly". This EDM scene helps a ton because you have a bunch of naive kids with $ and no idea what the fuck they're doing raging a world driven buy drugs.
I don't think good molly is stepped on in the way that coke and other stuff is. At the same time there really isn't much good shit floating around these days.
Rolls can be extremely clean just like powdered mdma can be. All you need is something to bind it. People have some idea in there head that the rolls are all dirty and cut down but the "molly" they're eating is pure. Sure there are meth bombs, piperazine, and I've even seen methylone ones going around these days, but it's the same with the powder.
Most of the stuff out there is methylone, but there's also plenty of mephedrone, meth and all kinds of other shit.
Without any changes in the drug war or edm scene it will probably continue for a long time. It's pretty wild how people that won't even smoke weed are doing "molly" with their friends at shows. Won't smoke something natural at a show because it's bad and you don't do that, but will ingest some random chemical that might kill you = brilliant.
I won't be doing it but I try to always keep a test kit handy for the people that are. Can't be too safe. It's a crazy world.
Byron_tha_gr8
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Yes! i have some party tests that fit in your pocket for that exact reason, but really fuck molly and those who swear how safe it is.
MDMA is kind of safe. You probably won't overdose on MDMA, but the long term effects even after light use may be very negative. Of course everyone who does molly then says, no I did molly and I'm fine. And im like, yes you did molly. Not MDMA. And you still have no fucking idea what might happen to you.
Stay away from RC's kids, they weren't invented for you to have safe fun, they were invented to make money
MDMA is kind of safe. You probably won't overdose on MDMA, but the long term effects even after light use may be very negative. Of course everyone who does molly then says, no I did molly and I'm fine. And im like, yes you did molly. Not MDMA. And you still have no fucking idea what might happen to you.
Stay away from RC's kids, they weren't invented for you to have safe fun, they were invented to make money
Also, a little birdie told me RC's are safe as long as you boof them.
ElMexicano
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Aderol aka an amphetamine .. No biggie as long as you know what it is. People are people regardless of everything, ... and people are good, god said so.
JahJahBinks
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My bad, I understand it can make a person's outlook on everything better and/or more understanding in ways. I was referring to a negative effect , and never being the same again.
spliff.Life
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THANK YOU at least a few people in this thread have done some reading, taken o-chem, or know what they are talking about from experience
I have accidentally taken 25-i being told it was acid and having taken 'real "family" lsd, they honestly dont even feel very similar in how they affect thinking/perceptions, the only similarness is that both are hallucinogens that tend to have geometric visuals (but that could just be our society and all of the orderly technological influences we have nowadays)
Take a look at the chemistry folks, and look away from the media
I have accidentally taken 25-i being told it was acid and having taken 'real "family" lsd, they honestly dont even feel very similar in how they affect thinking/perceptions, the only similarness is that both are hallucinogens that tend to have geometric visuals (but that could just be our society and all of the orderly technological influences we have nowadays)
Take a look at the chemistry folks, and look away from the media
True. I agree. I feel for the most part it's safe depending on who uses it and how much they respect it. At the same time too much of a good thing can be bad as well. People need to recognize when it's time to throw in the towel. Some people can eat that shit like candy their whole lives without a problem, many people can't.
Obviously one of the most famous examples is Syd Barrett
Obviously one of the most famous examples is Syd Barrett
Zimmerman
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"When you get the message..hang up the phone."
Was Syd's mental disorder and all that solely due to psychedelic use? That sounds a little unlikely.
And to the guy above, keep an open mind! I definitely agree, if you're not comfortable/scared you shouldn't be dropping acid. However, even the "bad" experiences in my experience have led to positive choices/outlooks.
Was Syd's mental disorder and all that solely due to psychedelic use? That sounds a little unlikely.
And to the guy above, keep an open mind! I definitely agree, if you're not comfortable/scared you shouldn't be dropping acid. However, even the "bad" experiences in my experience have led to positive choices/outlooks.
Rparr
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I have a theory that the vast majority of the supposed"acid" floating around in the world is not real acid. but rather some 2C-x or DOx or other similar chemical/analog, sold under the name of acid.
They all share at least one or some off the effects of real L. I've done too many bunk tabs to be fooled anymore.
Besides, how would you even know, unless you are a chemist with a lab?
They all share at least one or some off the effects of real L. I've done too many bunk tabs to be fooled anymore.
Besides, how would you even know, unless you are a chemist with a lab?
panojibber.
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From what I've been able to determine Syd had pre-existing mental health problems that the LSD exacerbated, and the thing that really did him in mentally was taking too many quaaludes while he was on acid and/or speedballing. Crazy motherfucker for sure, definitely not just a few LSD trips that drove him over the edge.