21/22 gear hype thread

[JaquinGuzman]

I can't be the only one who's stoked on the DPS Koala 103. Im bummed at what they are doing to the 119 because that in a 189 has been my go to pow ski at CB and it looks like they are turning into a noodle with a 4 meter turn radius. But the new 103 looks super interesting.

 

[cobra_commander]

Their durability won't be though. The scratch/cut resistance of PP is so bad that these boots develop gouges on the inside of their cuffs simply from gliding over the PU shell while in walk mode.

Make a PA boot or make PU boot. Leave the PP for kid's boots. It has no business on a $700+ boot

sure.

130 is a price point not a flex index. Just saying some of them ski fine.

 

[onenerdykid]

wait, I thought ski boots were made with gfrp. pu is polyurethane?

Not really, it's usually too heavy. If brands mix fibers in the plastic, it's usually carbon fiber. Dynafit used to make some cuffs with glass fiber loaded PA, not sure if they still do.

PU - polyurethane

PA - polyamide

PP - polypropylene

 

[Burrito]

As a lighter rider (165 lbs) I've been super happy with my Lupo 130Cs - PA/carbon fiber cuff on a grilamid clog. The only downside has been the durability of the relatively soft grilamid, which gets chewed up pretty easily if you do a lot of rock scrambling, etc. (though that's better than making it too stiff/hard and having it crack like a lot of the touring boots of yesteryear.)

I haven't noticed any real change switching from my old PU clog boots (FT, Krypton) to the grilamid Lupos, and I gotta believe that's mostly due to my weight and riding style. If you're a bigger rider or really punching through beat up snow I can see the argument for only riding PU boots.

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[evo.com]

Alright folks, we've got our 2022 Gear Preview live here

https://www.evo.com/discover/ski/gear-preview

We got as many brands in here as we could, but some are harder to get than others, the small brands especially.

 

[CatdickBojangles]

Alright folks, we've got our 2022 Gear Preview live here

https://www.evo.com/discover/ski/gear-preview

We got as many brands in here as we could, but some are harder to get than others, the small brands especially.

Awesome. Really curious on the power switch on the Salomon STH 16. Wondering how that will hold up and how it will actually ride.

 

[scratchskier321]

does the lupo cuff actually ski that bad? like why even switch it when in resorts?

It fills just perfectly. The only difference between a krypton and lupo is the rear cuff.

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[BigPurpleSkiSuit]

Love the leftmost one, love the Bdog. The 2 in the middle left I'm definitely giving a grade of who the fuck authorized that bizzare eyesore.

 

[BradFiAusNzCoCa]

I’m getting the impression that I’m the only one who likes the new ARVs

Love the leftmost one, love the Bdog. The 2 in the middle left I'm definitely giving a grade of who the fuck authorized that bizzare eyesore.

 

[Frallan]

Are you able to share the bases of on the bent chetlers?

Alright folks, we've got our 2022 Gear Preview live here

https://www.evo.com/discover/ski/gear-preview

We got as many brands in here as we could, but some are harder to get than others, the small brands especially.

 

[evo.com]

Are you able to share the bases of on the bent chetlers?

 

[BigPurpleSkiSuit]

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[Turnfarmer]

Whatever happened to Fulltilt project X? Nothing on Evo link.

 

[animator]

I can't be the only one who's stoked on the DPS Koala 103. Im bummed at what they are doing to the 119 because that in a 189 has been my go to pow ski at CB and it looks like they are turning into a noodle with a 4 meter turn radius. But the new 103 looks super interesting.

I haven’t skied the older Koala 119 but I did get on the new 103 and 118 and can wholeheartedly endorse the line. Stupid fun skis, especially for a brand that puts out meme-worthy stuff. I also skied the new Pagoda construction (next season there will be Foundation, Pagoda and Pagoda Tour, instead of Foundation, Pagoda Piste and Pagoda Tour) 106 C2 and it fucking ripped. Call me an old man but I had a ton of fun on them

 

[CatdickBojangles]

Whatever happened to Fulltilt project X? Nothing on Evo link.

Next season sadly. Waiting on someone to slip up and leak it. *cough* [tag=154780]@tomPietrowski[/tag] *cough*

 

[Mr_pretzel]

Can you compare the 118 to anything?

The old 119 was a charger

I haven’t skied the older Koala 119 but I did get on the new 103 and 118 and can wholeheartedly endorse the line. Stupid fun skis, especially for a brand that puts out meme-worthy stuff. I also skied the new Pagoda construction (next season there will be Foundation, Pagoda and Pagoda Tour, instead of Foundation, Pagoda Piste and Pagoda Tour) 106 C2 and it fucking ripped. Call me an old man but I had a ton of fun on them

 

[Twig]

Next season sadly. Waiting on someone to slip up and leak it. *cough* [tag=154780]@tomPietrowski[/tag] *cough*

Boot development takes a long time. Don't hold your breath because it will be '22-23... at the earliest. I remember skiing an Ascendant proto at least a couple of years before it hit the market.

 

[animator]

Can you compare the 118 to anything?

The old 119 was a charger

It’s a little softer and more “progressive” than the 119, it feels a lot like my obSETHed from 2012, just a bit lighter and more damp.

 

[Immunoblot]

Alright folks, we've got our 2022 Gear Preview live here

https://www.evo.com/discover/ski/gear-preview

We got as many brands in here as we could, but some are harder to get than others, the small brands especially.

Awesome. Do you guys have pics of Faction's prodigy line? What about the bases of Nordica's Enforcers?

 

[deathvalley69]

Awesome. Do you guys have pics of Faction's prodigy line? What about the bases of Nordica's Enforcers?

https://www.newschoolers.com/ski-gear/2022/brand/192/Faction-Skis

Prodigys are really simple but cool as always. Idk about the enforcers

 

[BigPurpleSkiSuit]

I just realized, there's a Salomon boot lineup with no S max. Is Salmon discontinuing that boot lineup? Cause that's the only boot I've found that really works with my foot.

 

[tomPietrowski]

As twig says it takes time to make perfection. You guys need to be patient. It will be worth it, Promise.

Next season sadly. Waiting on someone to slip up and leak it. *cough* [tag=154780]@tomPietrowski[/tag] *cough*

Boot development takes a long time. Don't hold your breath because it will be '22-23... at the earliest. I remember skiing an Ascendant proto at least a couple of years before it hit the market.

 

[animator]

As twig says it takes time to make perfection. You guys need to be patient. It will be worth it, Promise.

YES IT WILL GET FUCKING HYPE BOYS, IM NOT BUYING ANOTHER BOOT UNTIL IT DROPS. IT BETTER BE WHITE TOM, YOU KNOW WHAT WE DOING

 

[skidemon22]

I just realized, there's a Salomon boot lineup with no S max. Is Salmon discontinuing that boot lineup? Cause that's the only boot I've found that really works with my foot.

It is unchanged for next season, same colorways as this season. Same thing for the Shift Pro line.

 

[sirdankswerves]

Added to the description but they are different. The 2.0 and 3.0 get a paulownia/poplar core, the 5.0 get's an 'air poplar' core which seems to be to do with the milling.

So the ct 2.0 is being updated again already? Is the flex softening back up?

 

[sashko]

Is it going to favor skinny ankles and narrow feet crowd?!

As twig says it takes time to make perfection. You guys need to be patient. It will be worth it, Promise.

 

[anders_a]

So the ct 2.0 is being updated again already? Is the flex softening back up?

seems so sadly, 2021 is pretty darn cool for us not so petites (243lbs) this morning.

 

[Carl_the_Llama]

Another year another no Black Ops 108 ((

 

[kid-kapow]

Can you compare the 118 to anything?

The old 119 was a charger

yeah - the current/old 119 is a freaking missile in soft snow, yet very loose and easy to ski in pow.

I can understand that DPS want to release something a bit more approachable, but it is a shame that they did not make the 118 a 112 or 114, and just kept 119 around.

I agree with Blister's Paul Forward, the 119 is one of the better pow skis that have been released in a long while (and probably the best DPS ski in like forever (not that I have been on or in truth considered any other)) so it is a damned shame that it will be no more come 2022. Get them while you can, provided you are a somewhat strong skier who likes speed and stiff skis.

 

[CatdickBojangles]

Anyone seen Smiths goggles for next year? I heard the Squad XLs were getting the mag treatment and mine are due to be replaced.

 

[Greg_K]

By the Description in the Faction Candide models for 2022(CT 1.0 and CT 2.0) it says carbon fibre weave in binding area, so they may have just swapped out the Titanal plate above the edges for a reinforcement carbon sheet. Would maybe save a bit of weight without effecting flex.

If you saw a side profile of them you could see if plate is still present.

 

[JaquinGuzman]

I haven’t skied the older Koala 119 but I did get on the new 103 and 118 and can wholeheartedly endorse the line. Stupid fun skis, especially for a brand that puts out meme-worthy stuff. I also skied the new Pagoda construction (next season there will be Foundation, Pagoda and Pagoda Tour, instead of Foundation, Pagoda Piste and Pagoda Tour) 106 C2 and it fucking ripped. Call me an old man but I had a ton of fun on them

Yea I got on pair of the new 118 from my rep its a decent ski. the 119 was the chargiest playful pow ski around and im bummed they made it easier.

 

[tomPietrowski]

Yes sir

Is it going to favor skinny ankles and narrow feet crowd?!

 

[Kevski]

I’m getting the impression that I’m the only one who likes the new ARVs

Gonna be honest the ARVs and the white ones are the only ones I like. I think they look dope.

White throwback THall graphic is so sick.

 

[Kbob94]

Got the new krypton 130 TI boot in! Damn this boot is badass!!!! The wider power strap is soo killer

 

[gorbdawggybrent]

these are the meeks promodel topsheet

Some kind of new ON3P graphics

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[patagonialuke]

Another year another no Black Ops 108 ((

While it's not coming for 21/22, I've confirmed they've been working on protos and some of their folks have been testing them this year. They said rona was the main reason they couldn't get it ready for 21/22.

 

[animator]

Got the new krypton 130 TI boot in! Damn this boot is badass!!!! The wider power strap is soo killer

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I still fail to understand where tech fittings and no walk mode make sense... short tours that aren’t flat I guess? If anyone has a decent explanation please enlighten me because it seems like a cool boot, I just don’t get why you wouldn’t buy like, the Lupo Pro HD if you wanted a burly touring boot? Is it because their walk modes are constantly breaking?

 

[Mr_pretzel]

I still fail to understand where tech fittings and no walk mode make sense... short tours that aren’t flat I guess? If anyone has a decent explanation please enlighten me because it seems like a cool boot, I just don’t get why you wouldn’t buy like, the Lupo Pro HD if you wanted a burly touring boot? Is it because their walk modes are constantly breaking?

Because a lot of the pros add the krypton cuff to the lupo bottom, it skis better and tours fine for short machine accessed stuff. Plus they aren’t making a version without the fittings, probably and easy change to offer.

 

[Kbob94]

Because a lot of the pros add the krypton cuff to the lupo bottom, it skis better and tours fine for short machine accessed stuff. Plus they aren’t making a version without the fittings, probably and easy change to offer.

This!!!! As someone who skis in the lupo pro as my only boot this is the greatest thing ever! I can still rip all my skis including the ones with the kingpins inbounds and save my lupos for the long touring days and it saves the liner too.

 

[.MASSHOLE.]

I still fail to understand where tech fittings and no walk mode make sense... short tours that aren’t flat I guess? If anyone has a decent explanation please enlighten me because it seems like a cool boot, I just don’t get why you wouldn’t buy like, the Lupo Pro HD if you wanted a burly touring boot? Is it because their walk modes are constantly breaking?

Because CAST is a thing. They've been doing custom tech-toe mods for years, it seems boot companies took note that there was enough of an interest to make some of their own.

Onenerdykid may have better ideas about how much more complicated the manufacturing is, but if I had to guess, it probably doesn't change enough for them to be averse to the idea.

 

[tomPietrowski]

Its not as simple as you would think actually. Unless a shell was designed to be built with tech inserts and can use sliders to remove them its not a simple process to add a tech insert. I looked into doing it on the FTS shell but its not possible.

It is possible on k2 boots though....

Because CAST is a thing. They've been doing custom tech-toe mods for years, it seems boot companies took note that there was enough of an interest to make some of their own.

Onenerdykid may have better ideas about how much more complicated the manufacturing is, but if I had to guess, it probably doesn't change enough for them to be averse to the idea.

 

[.MASSHOLE.]

Its not as simple as you would think actually. Unless a shell was designed to be built with tech inserts and can use sliders to remove them its not a simple process to add a tech insert. I looked into doing it on the FTS shell but its not possible.

It is possible on k2 boots though....

I stand corrected then.

I wonder if the similarities between the Krypton and Lupo series helped though.

 

[Kbob94]

I stand corrected then.

I wonder if the similarities between the Krypton and Lupo series helped though.

That’s what I was thinking. Since the lower is exactly the same shape and size etc it would seem that would make perfect since to just start using the lupo lower for the krypton and then the only difference would be the name printed on it

 

[tomPietrowski]

That is exactly why they can do it. It’s like the recon and mindbender, we use the same lower mold and use sliders to make the differences.

I stand corrected then.

I wonder if the similarities between the Krypton and Lupo series helped though.

That’s what I was thinking. Since the lower is exactly the same shape and size etc it would seem that would make perfect since to just start using the lupo lower for the krypton and then the only difference would be the name printed on it

 

[scratchskier321]

Because a lot of the pros add the krypton cuff to the lupo bottom, it skis better and tours fine for short machine accessed stuff. Plus they aren’t making a version without the fittings, probably and easy change to offer.

is the lupo cuff actually that bad??? looks like the lupo cuff is a closer fit and would drive the ski really well... especially that carbon one...

 

[animator]

Awesome. Really curious on the power switch on the Salomon STH 16. Wondering how that will hold up and how it will actually ride.

I agree, the STH2 is a fantastic binding for hard skiing and I’m curious as to the benefits versus the potential weak points that a mechanism like that can create

 

[Kbob94]

is the lupo cuff actually that bad??? looks like the lupo cuff is a closer fit and would drive the ski really well... especially that carbon one...

It’s not that it’s a bad cuff it just makes that it’s a stronger skiing boot and since it’s got the wrap liner that makes it even stiffer and more high performance.

 

[OhJay]

It’s not that it’s a bad cuff it just makes that it’s a stronger skiing boot and since it’s got the wrap liner that makes it even stiffer and more high performance.

So if the PU cuff is what the pros wanted, what was wrong with the walk mode & cuffs from the SP Lupos from several years back? Did those still not ski as strong or same as a regular KR cuff that doesn’t have the walk mode?

 

[TheWeaz]

The krypton does have an adjustable forward lean angle and has or at least used to have a stiffening wedge you could put in the back. Neither of which you could do with the lupo cuff.