Man you guys are hostile towards HOFFM@N. He's simply stating the truth. It's what Saga has done, they're increasing their business, while trying to keep it regular for the customers. Which is why they're offering the "Rounds" promotions. They went "Hey, we've made it, our product has gone to retailers so now everyone can see it and have a taste for it. The only downside is that we won't be able to hold pre and mid season sales anymore. Cause if we do, our clients get upset" and then another guy went "Well Frank, instead of offering discounted suits, let's through in a freeeking sweet soft shell and some suspenders to make up for it." And then Frank went "that sounds like an amazing idea Bill." and that's how it happened. Bottom line, you can't win them all kids.